Crazy skating parents

MIsty Blades/Skate Mom

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I used to be a crazy skating mom. I would have done ANYTHING to advance my daughter's career. Yes, ANYTHING, but kill or maim. Alas, she dumped skating for soccer and looks way happier and more interested than she was a skater.

My husband is happy that my daughter gave up skating because I was an embarrassment at the rink. With soccer, I'm not that interested. I just go to her games and clap. When I lose interest, I surf the net on my phone or tablet.

Anyone care to share their experiences with crazy skating parents like me or mention the crazy skating parents in US/International skating?
 
I do not know about crazy parents today, I guess those things come out after their children leave. But apparently, Jennifer Kirk's mother forced her to compete fractured. And Lucinda Ruh's mother, took her out of bed at 2 am o'clock to go running alone in the neighborhood because it seemed to her that her daughter had not exercised enough that day.
 
I was so bad. I would start screaming at my little girl if she didn't spin fast enough. I'd scream faster, faster, faster. And my husband would say, "So, I'm not the only you say that to..."
 
I know a couple of top skaters, but I'm not going to name names.

Most of the craziest skating parents I've met are those whose skaters are at the lower levels, mainly because they burn their kids out early enough that the kids never succeed in the higher levels or quit young. I always like to think that the skaters that succeed are just as crazy if not crazier than their parents.
One of the funniest cases of the skater being crazier than the mother was a skater at Junior Nationals back in the day. She was a Juvenile Pairs skater and I was monitoring the practice ice (unofficial I believe - no judges were present and it wasn't at the competition rink; it almost looked like a freestyle session) for them. Well, not 5 minutes into the practice session this girl gets really fed up with how practice is going. I have no idea why. Anyways, 5 minutes into a 30 minute practice session she storms off the ice, calls her mother down to the ice, demands her mother put her real fur coat on her, has the other female in her entourage hand her her small toy dog, and tries to storm out of the rink through the Zamboni entrance. (Note: this rink was set into the ground, so you had to walk up 20+ steps to the concourse to get out) I don't even think she took off her skates. Maybe she put her guards on. I tried not to laugh as she and her family slinked back towards the stairs and walked out. The best part is that if I remember correctly her partner and coach stayed to finish out the session as if nothing ever happened.
TBH I thought that stuff only happened in movies - especially the whole 10-year-old with a real fur coat and a toy dog thing.
 
Most of the craziest skating parents I've met are those whose skaters are at the lower levels, mainly because they burn their kids out early enough that the kids never succeed in the higher levels or quit young.

Yep. Most of the crazy skating parents that I've encountered, their kids had left the sport by their early teens. The major exception competed nationally and internationally but had a very difficult career and is no longer competing.
 
Parents who are over zealous about their child in any endeavor, need to assess whether it is the child's ambition to do this or if it is their dream. I think it is ok to be involved with the process - taking them to sessions, hiring coaches/choreographers, ice time, etc. making sure they have the means to succeed if that is what they want. But to take your desires/ambitions to them for them to fulfill YOUR dream is unhealthy. Ultimately, they need to have the desire and not try to please the parent by fulfilling the parent's dream.
 
Although I skated at a quite unknown club in Northern Hessia (Germany) and our rink was mostly reserved for ice hockey so that we had about 6-7 hours of ice time per week and no gym whatsoever, some parents truly were absolutely sure that their kid would become an OGM one day.
We had at least 3 cases of entire families moving to cities like Oberstdorf or Mannheim in order to make their kids champions or sometimes they even sent their teenage kids to live there on their own. Of course, nothing ever came out of that.

A few weeks ago a former member of our club contacted me on facebook because she wanted to know who was coaching in our club now after our headcoach quit. I told her the club doesn't exist anymore and we chatted some more about the good old times and what everyone is doing now and that girl is still (!!!!!) absolutely delusional about her own figure skating "talent". At some point she said her first coach in Frankfurt (from a club which is non-existant anymore as well) had told her parents they made a huge mistake by moving to our region (I think her father got a job there or something) back in the days because nothing would ever come out of our club etc. and she started blaming our club and her own health problems (she has a weak heart) for not realizing her potential which was ABSOLUTELY enormous in her and her parents' opinion. I remember her parents being quite the skateparents, telling her if she didn't pass this or that skating exam they'd punish her by not taking her on vacation with them or stuff like that. It seems to have stuck with her until now and I find it quite sad. Thank God, there is no club to send her daughter to now because I could totally imagine what would come out of it.
 
Tell me about it, I wanted my daughter to win FOR ME, and live out my "ice dreams" which was wrong. I think she did have some fun, but ultimately, after our move to California, she decided that skating wasn't THAT fun. I'm glad I moved out here because I love the weather, living in the East Bay hills and the fact that I'm working again.
If I ever have time, I'm going to take lessons at one of the local rinks. I wonder if she kept that skating tiara I bought her. I think I could rock it on the ice at my adult beginner lessons.

Parents who are over zealous about their child in any endeavor, need to assess whether it is the child's ambition to do this or if it is their dream. I think it is ok to be involved with the process - taking them to sessions, hiring coaches/choreographers, ice time, etc. making sure they have the means to succeed if that is what they want. But to take your desires/ambitions to them for them to fulfill YOUR dream is unhealthy. Ultimately, they need to have the desire and not try to please the parent by fulfilling the parent's dream.
 
I recall crazy skating moms when I skated. My dad was the crazy skating dad who chewed out the skating moms for berating their children. He actually got kicked out because he reamed into a woman who was screaming at her 6 or 7 year old to land an axel or else she wouldn't be allowed to go to a birthday party on the weekend...
 
I have seen a few crazy parents but I have seen even crazier adult skaters. They can be the worst in terms of sportsmanship and getting their knickers in a knot over the stupidest things.
Interesting. All the adult skaters I've been around have been enormously positive, upbeat, and encouraging. We are all well aware of our limitations, but we support each others' efforts and accomplishments, no matter how small.
 
Interesting. All the adult skaters I've been around have been enormously positive, upbeat, and encouraging. We are all well aware of our limitations, but we support each others' efforts and accomplishments, no matter how small.
From an official's perspective it is a different matter. And I was an adult skater myself. Seriously the worst I have dealt with have been adults.
 
I recall crazy skating moms when I skated. My dad was the crazy skating dad who chewed out the skating moms for berating their children. He actually got kicked out because he reamed into a woman who was screaming at her 6 or 7 year old to land an axel or else she wouldn't be allowed to go to a birthday party on the weekend...

Good for your dad. I've never seen a skating parent tell the crazy parents to knock it off (at least, tell them in public). It seems to be more common that the crazy parents try to out-crazy each other - I guess on the basis that if one parent is getting something "special" for their child, then that means another child is not being recognized as being equally outstanding.

At my club there was one dad who started coaching his kid from the boards, after the kid had their lesson. The coaches told him this wasn't allowed. So instead the dad stood at the far end of the rink, behind the glass, and screamed instructions to his kid. I mean, SCREAMED. Not only was the noise incredibly annoying to everyone in the arena, but if you were on the ice, you could look over to where he was standing and see the glass all fogged up from all the breath he was expelling :eek:

He was screaming in Mandarin, which I don't speak, but some of the other parents who knew Mandarin told me he was saying awful things about his kid, e.g. stupid, lazy, waste of money.

There were so many complaints from skaters and other parents that the coaches told the dad he would be banned from the rink if he didn't stop. So he quit the club and took his kid with him. I really felt sorry for that child.
 
@overedge We had one of those, but before my time. More recently we've had parents try to do that, but we've banned all parents from talking to their child during lessons (unless it's a medical issue or a tiny toddler crying on the ice - at which point we pick the kid up and bring them to their parent). I started skating in the Midwest, where it's perfectly normal for kids to start skating at age two or three because most parents can skate and help their kids out (I first put skates on at 2, and first got on the ice around my 3rd birthday), hence very popular parent and me classes or classes aimed at that age range.
Our rink is in an area without that skating culture, so fewer people skate or start skating that young. When we tried to have a parent and me class, no one attended - the parents didn't want to learn to skate or pay to get on the ice - so we stopped offering it. Instead we banned all 2-year-olds and will offer any 3-year-old a refund if they aren't ready for the first week of classes (ie. crying, refusing to get on the ice, not enough ankle strength to stand up in skates, etc.). We even encourage most 3-year-olds to wait to start until 4 unless they have a parent that can skate or is otherwise willing to accept that their child may not be ready.
Still, no matter how many times we have to remove a crying, scared 3/4/5-year-old child off the ice, some parents absolutely refuse to accept that their child is not ready. I had one parent get so angry that I kept taking their child - who was crying and paralyzed with fear - off the ice that he demanded to speak to my manager. She offered him a refund, but he refused to accept his child wasn't ready. When his child didn't pass the class (because the child refused to leave the ice rink wall) he got even more angry. Despite standing at the boards watching his child learn nothing for 8 weeks.
A lot more parents get angry when their child who refuse to move without the help of a teacher don't pass. Literally all they have to do to pass that first level is skate from one wall to the other with no support from a teacher. If they can't do that after 8 weeks of lessons, maybe they aren't ready to start skating yet. (Or maybe they need another 8 weeks)

@Aussie Willy Maybe it's a cultural thing? In the US, at least where I am, a lot of adult skaters are officials, coaches, skating parents, club board members, former child skaters who took a break, or just adults who treat it as a fun hobby. If anything, the vast majority treat it as a fun social hobby. Most adult skaters skate on social skating sessions where they hang around and talk. I try to practice on them, but it's harder than a freestyle because everyone's just standing around talking and chilling. We even have an entire weekend dedicated to adult social ice dancing!
I've never done an adult competition, but I've heard it's generally a stress-free day followed by chatting and drinks at a local bar. All the adult skaters at my rink treat adult sectionals/nationals as a vacation - some who normally don't compete went one year only because it was in Vegas. They have friends that compete that they meet up with at the competitions every year, and many are friends with the judges and officials, so the judges get in on the socializing. (I heard the year in Vegas more judges than usual were interested in getting that Adult Nationals assignment)
 
Maybe it is here. I have been an adult skater myself and have many friends who are. But there have been certain individuals who have become really nasty and overstepped the mark when it comes to good sportsmanship and behaviour. Out of all the people I have had to deal with in the sport, the few adults who are a problem have been the worst.
 
I once read a story about a crazy gymnastics mom who used to cut off the heads of her daughters' beanie babies if they did badly in practice. Apparently she would make a big show of it too and say things like "I wonder which one will get his head chopped off this time..."
 
From an official's perspective it is a different matter. And I was an adult skater myself. Seriously the worst I have dealt with have been adults.
I'm sorry to hear that!! Most of us are grown up to understand that the marks/results REALLY don't matter in the grand scheme of things. There is, in fact, much more to life than skating!!
 

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