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Ekaterina Chervniavskaya's interview with Evgenia Tarasova/Vladimir Morozov `Blaming the partner for the errors not professional' for sport-express.ru
EC: Did you have a chance to celebrate you are on the leading ISU scores position?
VM: The fans and friends sent us the screenshots, it was nice, of course, but not a big deal.
EC: How are the new programmes preparations going?
VM: We have 2 new interesting programmes. We like them, the federation likes them. We hope they will turn out ok. The SP is classical, the LP is happy and merry, so to say. We will not reveal the music yet and wait for the test skates in September.
EC: The choreographer was Peter Tchernyshev?
VM: Yes. This year he choreographed both of our programmes. We tried the SP with him last season, it turned out well hence we decided to do both this season.
EC: Are the costumes ready?
ET: No, we are still thinking, checking the sketches. For now we only have a vague idea what they will be.
EC: Last season you had to change the LP costumes.
ET: Yes, the first version was unsuccessful and we were told to change them. We didn't like the 2nd much either, but there was no time and no opportunity to make the new ones.
EC: Do you have a favourite costume?
ET: Last year's SP. I also loved the black costume to the junior tango programme and the peach junior LP dress. The programmes were choreographed by Maks Trankov.
VM: Last year's Irish programme costumes were cool, but generally all the costumes were ok.
EC: Do you plan adding more complicated elements this season?
VM: The jumps and throws will remain the same, we are working on the easier elements, such as spins.
EC: I.e. you will not attempt a quad throw?
ET: A quad split twist - yes, a throw -no.
EC: What do you have to say to those who claim the quad split twist is useless: the well performed 3 split twist would gain more points?
ET: Having such an element says something about the pair's level. It's more complicated and costs more. The rest depends on how we perform it. We'll try to do our best to make it clean.
VM: A lot of times it depends on the execution, hence sometimes we don't get any additional points. But then if you only do the quad split twist in the practices it'll take too long to integrate it into the programme.
EC: Is it painful hearing your LP was much worse than the one of your competitors?
ET: It's just a critique that we have to take into an account and not repeat these mistakes in the future.
EC: You didn't have such a feeling during the choreographing of the programme?
ET: This programme was quite a story. First we made it to one piece of music, but then the Federation saw it and decided the music was wrong. So as a result we had to change it and it all came out quite chaotic.
EC: At what moment does the Federation evaluate the programmes? And is there enough time to make changes after?
ET: Our programem was evaluated in July in the test camp in Sochi, where the Feredation representatives came to watch. We were told then it won't do. In the end we changed the music.
EC: How long does it take the programme to become one from the idea to something competitive?
VM: About a month..
ET: This time the choreographing with Peter Tchernyshev took 2 weeks. We will then work on the programme till September.
EC: Tell me a bit about working with Robin Szelkowy. Which language do you communicate on?
ET: English
EC: Do you know it well enough?
ET: Well, my English is quite basic, Vladimir's is better. But Robin and I understand each other.
EC: And Russian?
ET: Well, Szelkowy can say stuff like `Hi', `Good morning'. After all he studied some Russian
EC: It wasn't for nothing skating with Aljona Savchenko
VT: More like Aljona learned German.
EC: Do you feel comfortable being the leading Russian pair?
VM: We were always aiming to be the first even when no one took us seriously. It's comfortable to be a leader. Besides, we were never sitting back and thinking `we are n. 2-3, no one expects much of us, it's better that way'. We were always setting to fight, always aimed high.
EC: Are you ready to compete with Stolbova/Klimov? They were quite in a shadow last season. Is there any tention during the practices?
ET: We don't skate at the same time. I think it will all become clear at the competitions.
EC: What is the mood in your group?
ET: We are all on friendly terms, we always meet up after and the competitions are the only place we are rivals. But it's always interesting following your rivals on the practices and compare. It keeps you in shape.
EC: In the pairs skating there is always a place for the individual errors. When you skated perfectly but your partner missed an element - how does it feel?
ET: When you skate in a pair and there is a mistake - both are to blame even if it was a solo jump. There are no hurt feelings. But it really depends on the relationship within the pair. We never had a feeling we were underscored. And we never blamed each other.
VM: I think it's quite unprofessional.
EC: Do you have a chance to tell each other something during the skate and change the programme if needed?
VM: Only some small things. Perhaps to change the step and get together. We can't change something global. The programme is choreographed to the top of our current ability. We can only talk the changes in the dress room 15 mintues before taking the ice.
EC: Did you have a feeling last Worlds the level is super high?
VM: It's hard sharing our impressions of that championship - because of the injuy both the SP and the LP were not done to the full potential and it was when we were on the top of our shape! We skated well, but there were competitions where we skated better... During the season we realized we are growing technically and our pair is received differently. As leaders. The injury ruined the impression of the season, but despite it we did all the elements and didn't miss a thing.
EC: The most nervous competition of the last season?
VM: The worlds. When you go out there and have no idea whether you'll be able to perform or generally skate. Zhenya got stitches and pain killers, first she didn't feel a thing. But, of course, the pain killers wear off and we had no idea how the injury would feel.
EC: Did it leave a bad taste?
ET: It all ended well.
VM: Yes and no. I think we could score higher in both programmes, skate more free. But then we could skip the competition altogether.
EC: Are you content with the GP events of the next season?
VM: Yes, but before we got the evengs it was tough. First the Chinese skaters picked their events, then the Germans and we got what was left. The order of the events this year was changed - previously it was the NA events, the European events and then the Asian events. Now it's one event in the NA and one in Asia. I think it will be harder for the athletes to adapt. We were lucky with the spots.
EC: Will it be hard skating to the home crowd?
VM: Perhaps. But it depends on how ready we'll be. When you are well prepared and all the elements are automatic it doesn't matter where to skate.
EC: Tell a bit about the WCC participation.
ET: It was something new!
VM: It was our first WTT and our first time in Japan. The country is so unusual and that not really competitive athmosphere when the vacation is so near and all the skaters hang our happily. Certainly none of the foreign skaters took that seriously.
EC: What was the most memorable?
both: our K&C!
EC: You got a special price for that.
VM: Yes! In the end, during the banquete when the teams were presented with the awards we got the best team spirit.
EC: Were you expecting it?
ET: The guys told us it's given every year for the team with the best K&C. This year our guys were set to win it from the very first days. We did our best to help.
EC: Tell about the athmosphere on the after competitions parties.
ET: First there is an official part with the judges and the athletes
VM: The ISU representatives give a speech, then the hosting country, then there is food, drinks and music.
EC: Who is usually mixing with whom?
ET: It's usually the friends and the teams. We are usually with our team and the Italians and French who we know from the training camps.
VM: Indeed, for some reason it's less with the NA teams.
EC: How was your vacation?
ET: We had 2 weeks off. We spent 12 days on Bali with the friends from the group. It was fun.
EC: Did you reach a state: ok, we are done, let's get back to the ice?
ET: When we came back we headed to a training camp in Kislovodsk, where there was no ice at all. Then the feeling `I want to be on the ice and not just run no the stadium' came.
EC: Were there things you had to do durign the vacation to keep in a good shape?
ET: Not so much... just if you are not an idiot you realize you have to stay in shape.
EC: When was the point when you realized the skating was not just for fun but might become something bigger?
ET: I guess I decided so when I moved from Kazan to Mosow. I understood there was no way back and I had to move forward.
VM: When I graduated the school and had to choose whether to go to a uni or keep skating. That was the turning point: sports or profession.
EC: Have you considered going to the uni?
VM: It's never too late to study.
EC: Is it possible given your schedule?
ET: Studying is demanding. We, on the other hand, come back from the practice dead tired and don't awnt to do a thing. Just sleep...
EC: Do your parents follow your skating?
ET: Of course. They support us but try not to bother. They read things on the internet during the competitions. But when mom and I are on the phone we speak about other things.
EC: Vladimir said in one of the interviews there was a point in his career when his then partner and her mom were staying at his place, but he had a certain feeling that was not it. How did you aprt your ways in the end?
VM: Oh, we were given different partners and it just resolved itself. But the coach saw himself we were not a good match.
EC: Did you part with the previous partners well and there are no hard feelings?
ET: Previously I only skated with Yegor Chudin, and it just happened that he was offered to join a show and I had a chance to skate with Vladimir. So there was no drama.
VM: I certainly do not have any hard feelings.
EC: Vladimir, at the time you started playing hockey. Did you ever regret picking a less payed sport?
VM: When you are a kid your persception is different. I was not skating in the school but in a preparation programme. So there was no aiming for becoming a professional skater. It just worked out so well.
EC: It is not a secret that you are a pair off the ice as well. Does it make the work harder or easier?
VM: I guess easier, because I can tell Zhenya things I wouldn't tell my on ice only partner. We can be more open. It's like being with someone close and when you blurt something it's taken completely different. But that blurting is much less dangerous than keeping things inside. As for hardships - there are always some.
EC: Is there a special feeling of responsibility in the dangerous elements where you are in control?
VM: Of course. The male partner sometimes takes it much harder than the girl. When she is in the throw jump you are stressing out whether she'll land. It's not just throw her and relax. There is equal responsibility and fear.
EC: Did you have a chance to celebrate you are on the leading ISU scores position?
VM: The fans and friends sent us the screenshots, it was nice, of course, but not a big deal.
EC: How are the new programmes preparations going?
VM: We have 2 new interesting programmes. We like them, the federation likes them. We hope they will turn out ok. The SP is classical, the LP is happy and merry, so to say. We will not reveal the music yet and wait for the test skates in September.
EC: The choreographer was Peter Tchernyshev?
VM: Yes. This year he choreographed both of our programmes. We tried the SP with him last season, it turned out well hence we decided to do both this season.
EC: Are the costumes ready?
ET: No, we are still thinking, checking the sketches. For now we only have a vague idea what they will be.
EC: Last season you had to change the LP costumes.
ET: Yes, the first version was unsuccessful and we were told to change them. We didn't like the 2nd much either, but there was no time and no opportunity to make the new ones.
EC: Do you have a favourite costume?
ET: Last year's SP. I also loved the black costume to the junior tango programme and the peach junior LP dress. The programmes were choreographed by Maks Trankov.
VM: Last year's Irish programme costumes were cool, but generally all the costumes were ok.
EC: Do you plan adding more complicated elements this season?
VM: The jumps and throws will remain the same, we are working on the easier elements, such as spins.
EC: I.e. you will not attempt a quad throw?
ET: A quad split twist - yes, a throw -no.
EC: What do you have to say to those who claim the quad split twist is useless: the well performed 3 split twist would gain more points?
ET: Having such an element says something about the pair's level. It's more complicated and costs more. The rest depends on how we perform it. We'll try to do our best to make it clean.
VM: A lot of times it depends on the execution, hence sometimes we don't get any additional points. But then if you only do the quad split twist in the practices it'll take too long to integrate it into the programme.
EC: Is it painful hearing your LP was much worse than the one of your competitors?
ET: It's just a critique that we have to take into an account and not repeat these mistakes in the future.
EC: You didn't have such a feeling during the choreographing of the programme?
ET: This programme was quite a story. First we made it to one piece of music, but then the Federation saw it and decided the music was wrong. So as a result we had to change it and it all came out quite chaotic.
EC: At what moment does the Federation evaluate the programmes? And is there enough time to make changes after?
ET: Our programem was evaluated in July in the test camp in Sochi, where the Feredation representatives came to watch. We were told then it won't do. In the end we changed the music.
EC: How long does it take the programme to become one from the idea to something competitive?
VM: About a month..
ET: This time the choreographing with Peter Tchernyshev took 2 weeks. We will then work on the programme till September.
EC: Tell me a bit about working with Robin Szelkowy. Which language do you communicate on?
ET: English
EC: Do you know it well enough?
ET: Well, my English is quite basic, Vladimir's is better. But Robin and I understand each other.
EC: And Russian?
ET: Well, Szelkowy can say stuff like `Hi', `Good morning'. After all he studied some Russian
EC: It wasn't for nothing skating with Aljona Savchenko
VT: More like Aljona learned German.
EC: Do you feel comfortable being the leading Russian pair?
VM: We were always aiming to be the first even when no one took us seriously. It's comfortable to be a leader. Besides, we were never sitting back and thinking `we are n. 2-3, no one expects much of us, it's better that way'. We were always setting to fight, always aimed high.
EC: Are you ready to compete with Stolbova/Klimov? They were quite in a shadow last season. Is there any tention during the practices?
ET: We don't skate at the same time. I think it will all become clear at the competitions.
EC: What is the mood in your group?
ET: We are all on friendly terms, we always meet up after and the competitions are the only place we are rivals. But it's always interesting following your rivals on the practices and compare. It keeps you in shape.
EC: In the pairs skating there is always a place for the individual errors. When you skated perfectly but your partner missed an element - how does it feel?
ET: When you skate in a pair and there is a mistake - both are to blame even if it was a solo jump. There are no hurt feelings. But it really depends on the relationship within the pair. We never had a feeling we were underscored. And we never blamed each other.
VM: I think it's quite unprofessional.
EC: Do you have a chance to tell each other something during the skate and change the programme if needed?
VM: Only some small things. Perhaps to change the step and get together. We can't change something global. The programme is choreographed to the top of our current ability. We can only talk the changes in the dress room 15 mintues before taking the ice.
EC: Did you have a feeling last Worlds the level is super high?
VM: It's hard sharing our impressions of that championship - because of the injuy both the SP and the LP were not done to the full potential and it was when we were on the top of our shape! We skated well, but there were competitions where we skated better... During the season we realized we are growing technically and our pair is received differently. As leaders. The injury ruined the impression of the season, but despite it we did all the elements and didn't miss a thing.
EC: The most nervous competition of the last season?
VM: The worlds. When you go out there and have no idea whether you'll be able to perform or generally skate. Zhenya got stitches and pain killers, first she didn't feel a thing. But, of course, the pain killers wear off and we had no idea how the injury would feel.
EC: Did it leave a bad taste?
ET: It all ended well.
VM: Yes and no. I think we could score higher in both programmes, skate more free. But then we could skip the competition altogether.
EC: Are you content with the GP events of the next season?
VM: Yes, but before we got the evengs it was tough. First the Chinese skaters picked their events, then the Germans and we got what was left. The order of the events this year was changed - previously it was the NA events, the European events and then the Asian events. Now it's one event in the NA and one in Asia. I think it will be harder for the athletes to adapt. We were lucky with the spots.
EC: Will it be hard skating to the home crowd?
VM: Perhaps. But it depends on how ready we'll be. When you are well prepared and all the elements are automatic it doesn't matter where to skate.
EC: Tell a bit about the WCC participation.
ET: It was something new!
VM: It was our first WTT and our first time in Japan. The country is so unusual and that not really competitive athmosphere when the vacation is so near and all the skaters hang our happily. Certainly none of the foreign skaters took that seriously.
EC: What was the most memorable?
both: our K&C!
EC: You got a special price for that.
VM: Yes! In the end, during the banquete when the teams were presented with the awards we got the best team spirit.
EC: Were you expecting it?
ET: The guys told us it's given every year for the team with the best K&C. This year our guys were set to win it from the very first days. We did our best to help.
EC: Tell about the athmosphere on the after competitions parties.
ET: First there is an official part with the judges and the athletes
VM: The ISU representatives give a speech, then the hosting country, then there is food, drinks and music.
EC: Who is usually mixing with whom?
ET: It's usually the friends and the teams. We are usually with our team and the Italians and French who we know from the training camps.
VM: Indeed, for some reason it's less with the NA teams.
EC: How was your vacation?
ET: We had 2 weeks off. We spent 12 days on Bali with the friends from the group. It was fun.
EC: Did you reach a state: ok, we are done, let's get back to the ice?
ET: When we came back we headed to a training camp in Kislovodsk, where there was no ice at all. Then the feeling `I want to be on the ice and not just run no the stadium' came.
EC: Were there things you had to do durign the vacation to keep in a good shape?
ET: Not so much... just if you are not an idiot you realize you have to stay in shape.
EC: When was the point when you realized the skating was not just for fun but might become something bigger?
ET: I guess I decided so when I moved from Kazan to Mosow. I understood there was no way back and I had to move forward.
VM: When I graduated the school and had to choose whether to go to a uni or keep skating. That was the turning point: sports or profession.
EC: Have you considered going to the uni?
VM: It's never too late to study.
EC: Is it possible given your schedule?
ET: Studying is demanding. We, on the other hand, come back from the practice dead tired and don't awnt to do a thing. Just sleep...
EC: Do your parents follow your skating?
ET: Of course. They support us but try not to bother. They read things on the internet during the competitions. But when mom and I are on the phone we speak about other things.
EC: Vladimir said in one of the interviews there was a point in his career when his then partner and her mom were staying at his place, but he had a certain feeling that was not it. How did you aprt your ways in the end?
VM: Oh, we were given different partners and it just resolved itself. But the coach saw himself we were not a good match.
EC: Did you part with the previous partners well and there are no hard feelings?
ET: Previously I only skated with Yegor Chudin, and it just happened that he was offered to join a show and I had a chance to skate with Vladimir. So there was no drama.
VM: I certainly do not have any hard feelings.
EC: Vladimir, at the time you started playing hockey. Did you ever regret picking a less payed sport?
VM: When you are a kid your persception is different. I was not skating in the school but in a preparation programme. So there was no aiming for becoming a professional skater. It just worked out so well.
EC: It is not a secret that you are a pair off the ice as well. Does it make the work harder or easier?
VM: I guess easier, because I can tell Zhenya things I wouldn't tell my on ice only partner. We can be more open. It's like being with someone close and when you blurt something it's taken completely different. But that blurting is much less dangerous than keeping things inside. As for hardships - there are always some.
EC: Is there a special feeling of responsibility in the dangerous elements where you are in control?
VM: Of course. The male partner sometimes takes it much harder than the girl. When she is in the throw jump you are stressing out whether she'll land. It's not just throw her and relax. There is equal responsibility and fear.
