Recent content by spinZZ

Government orders can be extremely tricky to interpret; I think often the officials drafting them don't understand them. We had the same issue here when certain "indoor team sports" were shutdown. With respect to rinks, competitive hockey games clearly fall under the category of indoor team...

From a resource-limited perspective, I appreciate why this is so. But from a health-control perspective, of course, this is exactly the opposite of what is needed: that is, based on the probability of a healthy skater becoming infected by a sick skater, enforcement of protocols could be...

One caveat here. Although providing a detailed written set of protocols is certainly a good step, the degree to which the rink enforces the protocols is crucial. Rinks face the same challenges as other businesses such as restaurants: to succeed under this C*V*D environment requires extra...

Given the bad scenario that NJ is in (though not as extreme as, e.g., CA), I was surprised to hear that. It's too early for the consequences of Christmas celebrations to show up in the metrics; and, of course, the consequences of New Year's celebrations are yet to come. I watched the replay of...

Yes, along with all the negative environmental factors in a rink, I'd also like to repeat some caveats I previously posted about our favorite sport. The nominal 6 ft social distancing guideline applies for people who are stationary or moving slowly, and who are breathing normally. Skaters, of...

Just to clarify: Such activities are banned for adults, but not for teens and younger kids?

I posted the specific wording of Gov. Murphy's Executive Order in my Post #617 above.

Thanks for the update. Gov. Murphy's latest Executive Order 204 (11/30/2020) is now available online (https://nj.gov/infobank/eo/056murphy/). It's really vague. Earlier Executive Orders that led to rink closures and re-openings addressed specific businesses and facilities. This latest one...

Did anyone at the rink, or health dept contact tracers, reach out to you?

Yes, when I read the article, it made sense to me. That particular rink loses money during the spring and summer months, and needs to make enough profits during fall and winter to be sustainable year round. In the three rinks that I'm familiar with in my area (NJ), there is a short lull in...

Wow! When I saw the Sept 30 date in the headline, I thought it was old news. But closed until Sept 30, 2021!

Thanks for the response. I didn't mean comparing patch way back when to freestyle today. I meant comparing patch to freestyle back in the same time frame. E.g., today freestyle is a lot more expensive than public, and I know skaters who normally skate at publics would not be willing to pay...

Having a dedicated portion of the ice per skater would certainly provide a greater margin of safety. I wonder about what would be needed to be economically viable these days. In patch, how many patches were configured on a standard NHL size rink (i.e., what was the maximum number of skaters...

I agree. Most rinks cannot survive long-term without revenue from competitive hockey programs. The big ??? is how long in the short-term can rinks survive without revenue from competitive hockey programs. From the information that's been released publicly, the outbreaks primarily stem from...

Questions for members: Does anyone know of instances (anywhere) in which outbreaks were traced to hockey, but only hockey was shutdown? I.e., the rink was allowed to stay open for figure skating and other non-hockey sessions? Or does the entire rink invariably have to shutdown?