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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    It was strange! She had done well in both figures and SP. It may have been the stress of leading after the SP, or in light of recently disclosed facts about her life and mental well-being, perhaps she was battling something worse. She had once said that she was an 'all-or-nothing girl'. It may...
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    agree 2 disagree
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    I am confounded that people have a hard time believing that an international judge would give Thomas a 5.8/5.7. She was the USFSA #1, '86 WC, '87 WSM, skating with a 3-3, 3L and superior spins and FW, and in '88 the skating world made a big buzz about her focus on the 2nd mark. Her marks at '87...
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    Good question. Her 88 Worlds LP was actually a little less focused (she still won the LP I think due to mistakes by Manley and Ito) and I don’t recall her 87 NHK LP to have been all that great. Maybe Euros was good (?) I think Debi’s Nationals LP was the best version of Carmen; one doubled...
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    You yourself just did a great job showing that there was a path for Thomas based on the judging breakdown. No reason why the judge from GBR would not slot Thomas into a win with her 3-3, 3L, superior spins to Witt. I agree somewhat that the judge from CZE was not thrilled with Thomas in the SP...
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    In a head to head at the Olympics, there were 3 differences from 87 as outlined above: WSS was a superior program to Carmen, Witt no longer was landing the 3L, and Thomas improved on the 2nd mark. I think in a nutshell that would have done it
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    I don't think the SP was instructive: I think Witt was elevated in the SP just to set up a serious showdown in the LP of a 'Battle of the Carmens', and this is not judging related, but there has been discussion in other threads about the SP in Calgary and a lot of people thought that Thomas as...
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    Tonya Harding at 1989 Worlds

    Yes. Thanks. I recognized the mid-section in both programs as the same. It is where NK did her mini aerobics choreo in Lillehammer
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    Tonya Harding at 1989 Worlds

    Did Kerrigan use the same music in her Lillehammer LP as Trenary in her SP here?
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    Tonya Harding at 1989 Worlds

    Did this Named skater rule exist back to 1980? Fratianne medaled at '80 Worlds, but the US could only send 2 skaters to '81 Worlds: Zayak and Priscilla Hill ... Then, of course Zayak won bronze at '84 Worlds, but there were 2 slots for Chin and Thomas at '85 Worlds
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    Love it. You must be the FSU resident DQ!
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    Agreed. She hit the 3-3 and 3L. Based on the judging as it was that content might have wedged her between Manley and Witt which is what she needed to win
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    Ito was in 10th after the figures which was 30% of the score, and she was behind all of Witt, Manley, Thomas and Trenary going clean in both the SP and LP. There was no way in a scenario where everyone else is clean that she would've been a podium threat. I just have to disagree on Witt's...
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    IF all ladies skated cleanly in Calgary '88 ....

    Yes. My idea for these IF threads is to gauge 'clean' by what that skater was able to do technically THAT year (It is why I asked if Witt had ever landed a 3L in 87-88, because I don't recall that and didn't consider her capable of it, but that's just my non-binding rule). Interesting to know...
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    U.S. Pairs 2020-21 season - News & Updates, Part XI

    Seeing Brian in a onesie is the highlight of the FS season for me
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