Valieva Banned for Four Years, Effective December 25, 2021

[Vagabond]

LOL - Galliamov is telling the IOC and ISU that they better be invited to any victory ceremony if the bronze medal placement sticks -

If the ceremony is in Paris, these Russian athletes might not be able to obtain a visa, regardless of what the ISU and IOC might wish. This may even be part of why the Americans want the ceremony to be at the Olympics.

 

[marmalade]

LOL - Galliamov is telling the IOC and ISU that they better be invited to any victory ceremony if the bronze medal placement sticks -

Alexandr Galliamov: “If IOC wants to award us medals for the team event, I would suggest they send us an official invitation. I refuse to accept anything by mail or through third parties.”

Alexandr Galliamov stated that he will not accept a medal for the team event by mail.

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[Spikefan]

LOL - Galliamov is telling the IOC and ISU that they better be invited to any victory ceremony if the bronze medal placement sticks -

Alexandr Galliamov: “If IOC wants to award us medals for the team event, I would suggest they send us an official invitation. I refuse to accept anything by mail or through third parties.”

Alexandr Galliamov stated that he will not accept a medal for the team event by mail.

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Clearly wants a trip out of Russia, too bad so sad.

 

[ballettmaus]

Clearly wants a trip out of Russia, too bad so sad.

Maybe he wants to defect?

 

[PRlady]

LOL - Galliamov is telling the IOC and ISU that they better be invited to any victory ceremony if the bronze medal placement sticks -

Alexandr Galliamov: “If IOC wants to award us medals for the team event, I would suggest they send us an official invitation. I refuse to accept anything by mail or through third parties.”

Alexandr Galliamov stated that he will not accept a medal for the team event by mail.

fs-gossips.com

Another Russian with delusions of importance.

 

[Dobre]

I think it shows that there are some athletes in Russia that know the difference between an Olympic medal and propaganda. Yes, Russia put on its fake ceremony and paid its athletes like gold medalists; but that's not the same as a real Olympic medal of any kind.

 

[overedge]

If the Russians end up not getting a medal, their only reason to be at the ceremony would be to give stinkeyes to the legitimate medalists. Ooooh, SKARY!

 

[coppertop1]

I hope that Russia's entitlement and arrogance blows up in their faces. They were thrown a bone they didn't deserve (again) and have the gall to appeal. They should be told "Not enough for you? Fine. You get nothing."

 

[Allskate]

LOL - Galliamov is telling the IOC and ISU that they better be invited to any victory ceremony if the bronze medal placement sticks -

He seems to think he not only will be invited and provided with a visa, but that he will be welcomed with loving arms:

“In Europe, they really love Russian figure skating, and with their ways and speed of movement, I’m sure that Italians, French, Germans, and our Slavic brothers – fans of Russian figure skating – would join. Maybe then they would pay attention to the significance and development of figure skating in Russia and for Russia."

I think he's been drinking too much of that vodka-laced Russian Kool-Aid. He may be in for a rude surprise. I doubt that there would be loud ovations for the Russians at a medal ceremony at the Olympics. The Russian team members may even be welcomed with a great rounds of boos by opponents of doping and by Europeans not happy about a team representing a country that started a war that has had bad repercussions for Europeans. They might even be serenaded with "Oh, Canada."

 

[puglover]

He seems to think he not only will be invited and provided with a visa, but that he will be welcomed with loving arms:

“In Europe, they really love Russian figure skating, and with their ways and speed of movement, I’m sure that Italians, French, Germans, and our Slavic brothers – fans of Russian figure skating – would join. Maybe then they would pay attention to the significance and development of figure skating in Russia and for Russia."

I think he's been drinking too much of that vodka-laced Russian Kool-Aid. He may be in for a rude surprise. I doubt that there would be loud ovations for the Russians at a medal ceremony at the Olympics. The Russian team members may even be welcomed with a great rounds of boos by opponents of doping and by Europeans not happy about a team representing a country that started a war that has had bad repercussions for Europeans. They might even be serenaded with "Oh, Canada."

Personally, I find this very disheartening. If even an elite athlete, who couldn't skate under his own country flag or name, and knows he just lost an Olympic gold medal because of a drug infraction by a 15 year old teammate with the most unbelievable explanation, doesn't think Russia has a problem, how will things change?

 

[On My Own]

I'll give you credit, @Yuri, for sounding like an accountant - a mafia boss' accountant or a government accountant. Which, I suppose, is a perfect way to describe a USFS or ISU competition accountant.

This is one of the sickest burns on this website

 

[On My Own]

Canada should tell the ISU "no Bronze, no Worlds". Maybe that will get them to sharpen their pencils.

They can't do this, they already canceled them in 2020. Sure it was due to real circumstances, but I doubt they want to get sanctioned.

 

[Primorskaya]

He seems to think he not only will be invited and provided with a visa, but that he will be welcomed with loving arms:

“In Europe, they really love Russian figure skating, and with their ways and speed of movement, I’m sure that Italians, French, Germans, and our Slavic brothers – fans of Russian figure skating – would join. Maybe then they would pay attention to the significance and development of figure skating in Russia and for Russia."

I think he's been drinking too much of that vodka-laced Russian Kool-Aid. He may be in for a rude surprise. I doubt that there would be loud ovations for the Russians at a medal ceremony at the Olympics. The Russian team members may even be welcomed with a great rounds of boos by opponents of doping and by Europeans not happy about a team representing a country that started a war that has had bad repercussions for Europeans. They might even be serenaded with "Oh, Canada."

It's called "decades of propaganda" and "wanting to believe the version that makes you happy".

 

[Debbie S]

Interview with Alexa and Brandon: https://www.instagram.com/reel/C23Z4DzNk2m/

 

[Firedancer]

Personally, I find this very disheartening. If even an elite athlete, who couldn't skate under his own country flag or name, and knows he just lost an Olympic gold medal because of a drug infraction by a 15 year old teammate with the most unbelievable explanation, doesn't think Russia has a problem, how will things change?

I don’t think anything has or will change until additional measures are taken. There should be no consideration of Russia returning in anyway until real changes are made.

 

[coppertop1]

He seems to think he not only will be invited and provided with a visa, but that he will be welcomed with loving arms:

“In Europe, they really love Russian figure skating, and with their ways and speed of movement, I’m sure that Italians, French, Germans, and our Slavic brothers – fans of Russian figure skating – would join. Maybe then they would pay attention to the significance and development of figure skating in Russia and for Russia."

I think he's been drinking too much of that vodka-laced Russian Kool-Aid. He may be in for a rude surprise. I doubt that there would be loud ovations for the Russians at a medal ceremony at the Olympics. The Russian team members may even be welcomed with a great rounds of boos by opponents of doping and by Europeans not happy about a team representing a country that started a war that has had bad repercussions for Europeans. They might even be serenaded with "Oh, Canada."

Am I petty from wanting this to happen?

I don’t think anything has or will change until additional measures are taken. There should be no consideration of Russia returning in anyway until real changes are made.

And let's be real: That's unlikely as long as Putin is around. Just keep Russia out

 

[carriecmu0503]

They can't do this, they already canceled them in 2020. Sure it was due to real circumstances, but I doubt they want to get sanctioned.

Skate Canada did NOT cancel the 2020 World Championships, the Canadian government did. Big difference. Canada shut the entire country down; it was totally out of Skate Canada's hands.

 

[skatingguy]

One of the reasons why the IOC decided not to give the medals is that the russians have not returned them for years. For years!!! This is not something new.
And, by the way, Moskvina, Kostomarov and Enbert said that the bronze medals are ok. Those who want to speak out speak up. For the rest, others will find excuses. As always.

That's a fair point.

 

[MacMadame]

For all those people who say 4 years is harsh, doping penalties are always harsh. And rarely take into account any extenuating circumstances. I understand that the general public might not be aware of this but Phil Hersh most certainly should. In particular, since we have no idea what the evidence is that led to this ruling, people like Hersh who have a platform should be very careful making big pronouncements.

 

[coppertop1]

For all those people who say 4 years is harsh, doping penalties are always harsh. And rarely take into account any extenuating circumstances. I understand that the general public might not be aware of this but Phil Hersh most certainly should. In particular, since we have no idea what the evidence is that led to this ruling, people like Hersh who have a platform should be very careful making big pronouncements.

And it should be. A light sentence would greenlight doping minors.

Meanwhile

 

[Allskate]

And it should be. A light sentence would greenlight doping minors.

Meanwhile

ITA. Deterring the doping of minors is really important. If people feel bad for Valieva, they should support the deterrence.

Christine Brennan says:

"100 hours of silence from
@ISU_Figure
on why it put Russia ahead of Canada for the 2022 Olympic team skating bronze medal. From early Tuesday morning (5:22 am ET to be exact) to right now: no return emails, no explanation of their math, nothing."

Cuz math is hard. In all seriousness, if the rules required their results, it wouldn't be that difficult for the ISU to say so. And they would have been able to prepare a statement over the past two years.

 

[rfisher]

ITA. Deterring the doping of minors is really important. If people feel bad for Valieva, they should support the deterrence.

Christine Brennan says:

"100 hours of silence from
@ISU_Figure
on why it put Russia ahead of Canada for the 2022 Olympic team skating bronze medal. From early Tuesday morning (5:22 am ET to be exact) to right now: no return emails, no explanation of their math, nothing."

Cuz math is hard. In all seriousness, if the rules required their results, it wouldn't be that difficult for the ISU to say so. And they would have been able to prepare a statement over the past two years.

Given there are appeals, do you not think their legal office has said do not talk to the press?

 

[MacMadame]

Given there are appeals, do you not think their legal office has said do not talk to the press?

The legal team should have given them a bland statement to put out. Like they normally do in these situations.

Btw, have appeals been filed or just threatened? We have Canada and Russia both saying they will pursue legal action. Anyone else?

 

[caseyedwards]

ITA. Deterring the doping of minors is really important. If people feel bad for Valieva, they should support the deterrence.

Christine Brennan says:

"100 hours of silence from
@ISU_Figure
on why it put Russia ahead of Canada for the 2022 Olympic team skating bronze medal. From early Tuesday morning (5:22 am ET to be exact) to right now: no return emails, no explanation of their math, nothing."

Cuz math is hard. In all seriousness, if the rules required their results, it wouldn't be that difficult for the ISU to say so. And they would have been able to prepare a statement over the past two years.

I would ignore Christine Brennan too

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Ultimately, we would need to know the full details to determine if 4 years was harsh or fair and it seems Russia does not want them to be known. If they made the penalty look harsh, I suspect Russia would be all for releasing them.

 

[skatingguy]

Ultimately, we would need to know the full details to determine if 4 years was harsh or fair and it seems Russia does not want them to be known. If they made the penalty look harsh, I suspect Russia would be all for releasing them.

I think keeping the documents confidential allows them to play the narrative however they like, and to change that narrative as it suits them.

 

[coppertop1]

ITA. Deterring the doping of minors is really important. If people feel bad for Valieva, they should support the deterrence.

Exactly. It's clear though that Valieva was the victim (and her behaviour afterwards doesn't change that). This can't happen again

Christine Brennan says:

"100 hours of silence from
@ISU_Figure
on why it put Russia ahead of Canada for the 2022 Olympic team skating bronze medal. From early Tuesday morning (5:22 am ET to be exact) to right now: no return emails, no explanation of their math, nothing."

Cuz math is hard. In all seriousness, if the rules required their results, it wouldn't be that difficult for the ISU to say so. And they would have been able to prepare a statement over the past two years.

Hey, ISU, what's 53+2? ISU: ?? 53?

They had two years to get this right and instead they try to appease Russia and wind up pleasing no one. Did they really think Russia would be happy to get bronze?

 

[Judy]

The ISU remaining silent is not a shock to me at all.

 

[coppertop1]

The ISU remaining silent is not a shock to me at all.

Nope. They're hiding. They really wet the bed now.

 

[Vagabond]

The ISU remaining silent is not a shock to me at all.

Their response, or lack thereof, just doesn't add up.