The Dance Hall 5: Ice Dance Fans 2017-2018

[PRlady]

Oliver – I don’t want to see a programs that depicts Nancy/Sikes relationship.


I would like to see:

• Tommy– Who
• Xanadu
• The Producers
• Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street
• Dreamgirls
• Hairspray
• Porgy and Bess
• Anything Goes
• Sunset Boulevard
• Wicked
• Cotton Club
• Jelly’s Last Jam

I’m sure we’ll see pieces from Cabaret, Chicago, POTO, Hamilton,

Agreed about Oliver but there are other great songs in that musical. Two urchins skating to “You’ve Got to Pick a Picket or Two.”

Wicked is hard to skate to, I think. Dreamgirls is basically Motown. And I can just see a number to Springtime for Hitler.

 

[Wyliefan]

Agreed about Oliver but there are other great songs in that musical. Two urchins skating to “You’ve Got to Pick a Picket or Two.”

I can just see C/L doing it . . . *sigh*

 

[ximianKernel]

A lot of Kander and Ebb collaborations can work too

The musical interlude in One of the Boys from Woman of the Year
Kiss of the Spiderwoman
How Lucky can you get from Funny Lady
Mein Herr and Wilkommen from Cabaret

 

[PRlady]

This is a bizarre admission but Babes in Toyland was my first musical (actually originally from the early 20th century.) Castle in Spain would make a terrific comic SD.

My Man from Funny Girl.

Lot of Living from Bye Bye Birdie.

Being Alive from Company.

And more than I can think of from Kurt Weill.

 

[RoseRed]

Chris and Kana also did an exhibition to "All I Need is the Girl" from Gypsy. That's actually a great number to use.

ETA: Maybe should start a thread about songs/musicals that would work for the SD and after one year, we can send it to every ice dancer so we could increase the chances of not getting a thousand Chicago, POTO, Les Miz, etc. programs.

Send them to Marie-France - she'll be choosing music for a lot of them.

 

[JJH]

Gigi
Brigadoon
Damn Yankees
Stop the World, I Want to Get Off
The Roar of the Greasepaint, the Smell of the Crowd
Pal Joey
Guys and Dolls
All That Jazz
Bells are Ringing

 

[nuge]

What about The Boyfriend? Love that.
Would be good for G/P.
Sit beneath an oak tree large and shady calling me your tootsie wootsie baby.Howdya like to spoon with me
I have got the right musical right?I always loved the Boyfriend and those songs!

 

[Twilight1]

@nuge

G/P are earmarked for Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Sweet Transvestite would be iconic for them!!

 

[NinjaTurtles]

Jekyll & Hyde is an oft forgotten musical. A lot of the songs are a bit somber or dark, but Good N' Evil or Bring on the Men are upbeat/tongue-in-cheek numbers.

 

[chameleonster]

Also I know someone else said the implication based on the rhythms implies a more danceable rhythm, but if I remember correctly, the march is one of the options. And if Marie-France taught us nothing else during the waltz/march season, it was that a march rhythm can be added to about anything. So I don't think all teams will feel compelled to ixnay the dramatic/power ballad stuff. Though hopefully they will stretch for something beyond the oh-so-popular numbers that have been done to death.

I meant more that this far out, without any clarifications, its hard to know what will be allowed or what the ISU will want, and speculating on the likelihood of whether the ISU will impose guidelines that restrict teams to certain kinds of musicals. Will they essentially resurrect the OD for a season? Or will there be a lot of careful wording about programs being reward for being lighthearted and dancey and having energy? Or maybe they'll just let it play out and allow less traditional choices as long as they're well thought out. We don't even have full clarification on the rules for this season yet. Even if restricted to more traditional musicals, I hope that teams will do their research and pick from many great numbers.

 

[Dobre]

Did we know the junior French team of Wagret & Couryas have split? At least it appears they have. They are both listed on Ice Partner Search.

 

[topaz]

G/P are the risk takers. I would love to see them do something for Sweeney Todd or Xanadu.

Hubbell/Donohue - I would like to do Tommy, Green Day's American Idiot(Blvd of Broken Dreams) or their rock opera 21st Century Breakdown(Know your enemy or 21 Guns)

 

[Sylvia]

Did we know the junior French team of Wagret & Couryas have split? At least it appears they have. They are both listed on Ice Partner Search.

She turned 19 in January; he is ISU Junior age-eligible in dance through the 2019-20 season: http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00034533.htm

ETA: So that explains why they didn't compete in Junior Nationals late last month.

 

[Wyliefan]

G/P are the risk takers. I would love to see them do something for Sweeney Todd or Xanadu.

Little Shop of Horrors. Can't you just picture Piper's Audrey costume?

 

[VGThuy]

Little Shop of Horrors. Can't you just picture Piper's Audrey costume?

And Paul's Seymour/Rick Moranis get-up.

I remember the Shibs were planning a Mary Poppins-themed SD for the 2012-2013 season before they were told to change it and ended up with their Incantation medley. I think "Step in Time" would make a great SD.

 

[skategal]

Oh I'd love for a dance team to skate to Mary Poppins!

I could see Soucisse and Firus doing that.

 

[MRani]

Oh I'd love for a dance team to skate to Mary Poppins!

I could see Soucisse and Firus doing that.

Mary Poppins is even returning to the big screen too so the timing is just right for a fresh take on it.

 

[Dobre]

Oh I'd love for a dance team to skate to Mary Poppins!

Mary Poppins ice dance programs:

Gilles & Poirier: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqu-Abtes0I
Alessandrini & Vaturi: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSifyY9hUeM
Lanaghan & Razgulajevs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpma5rqPppo
Marton & Szemko: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qpma5rqPppo
Peal & Peal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysq7h3w2JRE (warning--cuteness factor)

There's been a lot of Mary Poppins, especially--I think--since the musical version came out on Broadway. Having said that, Step in Time is a good piece. I really liked Nicolas's version of Bert the year he won silver at Junior Worlds. It was nice to see the Bert character rather than the typical "Jolly Holiday" Mary Poppins focus.

 

[Dobre]

The Transition:
Now that we have reached the end of the season, here are the updated scores for dance teams making the transition to seniors this season & last. Scores added since the end of the regular season are in bold. I’ll add other thoughts & statistics in a later post since this one is already quite long.

2017-2018 Freshman Class (AKA first-year senior teams):

Debut Senior Season Challenger, GP, and Major International Scores:
163.14 The Parsons (Ondrej Nepela)
160.51 McNamara & Carpenter (Warsaw Cup)
160.12 McNamara & Carpenter (Four Continents)
157.61 McNamara & Carpenter (Cup of China)
155.72 Loboda & Drozd (Skate Canada)
155.55 Abachkina & Thauron (Internationaux de France)
155.30 The Parsons (Four Continents)
154.50 McNamara & Carpenter (Autumn Classic)
154.40 Loboda & Drozd (Lombardia)
152.38 The Parsons (Golden Spin)
150.32 Loboda & Drozd (Golden Spin)—had a fall
148.75 The Parsons (Rostelecom)
145.85 Loboda & Drozd (Internationaux de France)
145.54 The Parsons (Skate America)
144.90 Abachkina & Thauron (Cup of China)
141.78 McNamara & Carpenter (Finlandia)--had a fall
140.86 Abachkina & Thauron (Ondrej Nepela)--had a fall
139.74 Abachkina & Thauron (Europeans)—had a fall
136.06 Popova & Byelikov (Tallinn Trophy)
124.02 Fukase & Tateno (Four Continents)
117.30 Fukase & Tateno (Lombardia)
111.74 Damuleviciute & Kizala (Tallinn Trophy)

Note: Popova & Byelikov and Damuleviciute & Kizala skated the SD at Europeans, but did not qualify for the FD. Popova & Byelikov competed juniors as well this season & finished 11th at Junior Worlds.


Sophomore Class (AKA second-year senior teams):

Second Senior Season Challenger, GP, and Major International Scores:
159.64 Lauriault & Le Gac (Worlds)
157.62 Lauriault & Le Gac (NHK Trophy)
154.14 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Internationaux de France)
154.04 Lauriault & Le Gac (Europeans)
150.74 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Tallinn Trophy)—had a fall
150.47 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Cup of China)
150.42 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Lombardia)
150.28 Evdokmova & Bazin (Tallinn Trophy)
149.59 Lauriault & Le Gac (Olympics)
149.34 Lauriault & Le Gac (Autumn Classic)
147.19 Lauriault & Le Gac (Rostelecom)
139.48 Sales & Wamsteeker (Four Continents)
136.81 Kuzmichova & Sinicyn (Rostelecom)
134.84 Sales & Wamsteeker (Nebelhorn)
127.12 Biechler & Dodge (U.S. Classic)
121.68 Kuzmichova & Sinicyn (Autumn Classic)
119.79 Biechler & Dodge (Finlandia)--had a fall

Note: Fedyuschenko & Kitteridge and Li & Xiang did not compete at their Nationals or, as far as I can tell, at all this season. I'll consider them split or retired unless someone knows otherwise.


Put them together and what do you get?
163.14 The Parsons (Ondrej Nepela)
160.51 McNamara & Carpenter (Warsaw Cup)
160.12 McNamara & Carpenter (Four Continents)
159.64 Lauriault & Le Gac (Worlds)
157.62 Lauriault & Le Gac (NHK Trophy)
157.61 McNamara & Carpenter (Cup of China)
155.72 Loboda & Drozd (Skate Canada)
155.55 Abachkina & Thauron (Internationaux de France)
155.30 The Parsons (Four Continents)
154.50 McNamara & Carpenter (Autumn Classic)
154.40 Loboda & Drozd (Lombardia)
154.14 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Internationaux de France)
154.04 Lauriault & Le Gac (Europeans)
152.38 The Parsons (Golden Spin)
150.74 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Tallinn Trophy)—had a fall
150.47 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Cup of China)
150.42 Pogrebinsky & Benoit (Lombardia)
150.32 Loboda & Drozd (Golden Spin)—had a fall
150.28 Evdokimova & Bazin (Tallinn Trophy)
149.59 Lauriault & Le Gac (Olympics)
149.34 Lauriault & Le Gac (Autumn Classic)
148.75 The Parsons (Rostelecom)
147.19 Lauriault & Le Gac (Rostelecom)
145.85 Loboda & Drozd (Internationaux de France)
145.54 The Parsons (Skate America)
144.90 Abachkina & Thauron (Cup of China)
141.78 McNamara & Carpenter (Finlandia)--had a fall
140.86 Abachkina & Thauron (Ondrej Nepela)--had a fall
139.74 Abachkina & Thauron (Europeans)—had a fall
139.48 Sales & Wamsteeker (Four Continents)
136.81 Kuzmichova & Sinicyn (Rostelecom)
136.06 Popova & Byelikov (Tallinn Trophy)
134.84 Sales & Wamsteeker (Nebelhorn)
127.12 Biechler & Dodge (U.S. Classic)
124.02 Fukase & Tateno (Four Continents)
121.68 Kuzmichova & Sinicyn (Autumn Classic)
119.79 Biechler & Dodge (Finlandia)--had a fall
117.30 Fukase & Tateno (Lombardia)
111.74 Damuleviciute & Kizala (Tallinn Trophy)

 

[Sylvia]

111.74 Damuleviciute & Kizala (Tallinn Trophy)

Deividas Kizala (LTU), age 20, is listed on IPS as of 2/18/18.

 

[shuilee]

TSL is saying Hawayek & Baker are also heading to Montreal. Another new Japanese team is joining as well.

Is Marie-France going to have 20 teams next year?


OTOH, if Shibs take a break next year, who will be Marina's #1? I was honestly expecting H&B to join Marina's team.

 

[Vera Costa]

TSL is saying Hawayek & Baker are also heading to Montreal. Another new Japanese team is joining as well.

Is Marie-France going to have 20 teams next year?

OTOH, if Shibs take a break next year, who will be Marina's #1? I was honestly expecting H&B to join Marina's team.

V/M and Robledo/Fenero are done, so that frees up at least two spots. Komatsubara/Koleto are taking up one of those and perhaps Hawayek/Baker the other. Still a total of 17. Anyone else moving to Gadbois?

There are at least four on-ice coaches at Gadbois (Marie-France, Patrice, Romain, Pascal Denis) and off-ice choreographers/coaches to help.

Do Fear/Gibson and Fear/Waddell train full-time in Montreal or do they split their time between there and London? They have Romain and Karen Quinn listed as their coaches.

Marina has Muramoto/Reed, Lorenz/Polizoakis, Lewis/Bye, Tran/Ambrulevicius and Hew-Low/McKernan.

 

[Dobre]

Marina has Muramoto/Reed, Lorenz/Polizoakis, Lewis/Bye, Tran/Ambrulevicius and Hew-Low/McKernan.

Reed/Ambrulevicius.

Marina & Massimo also had Buckley & Chen at U.S. Nationals. They would be likely to enter Juniors this season. Muller & Dieck also train with her part time.

OTOH, if Shibs take a break next year, who will be Marina's #1? I was honestly expecting H&B to join Marina's team.

Oh, who knows how the summer will shake out? But for now, Muramoto & Reed are her top ranked team behind the Shibs. M&R finished 11th at Worlds right behind Hawayek & Baker.

Do Fear/Gibson and Fear/Waddell train full-time in Montreal or do they split their time between there and London?

A post I read about a week or two ago said the two Fear teams split their time.

 

[Anyasnake]

For H/B : It's been said that they asked, not that it's definitive, right ?
I still think that Montreal is the best choice for them.

 

[Deleted member 74551]

Do Marie-France and Patrice ever sleep?

I'm surprised V/M haven't officially retired yet because there's no way they aren't done for good this time.

I thought H/B might head to Marina because Montreal is so crowded but I guess we don't know what the Shibs' future plans are yet. They obviously need to move somewhere. I really hope it works out for them.

 

[RoseRed]

For H/B : It's been said that they asked, not that it's definitive, right ?
I still think that Montreal is the best choice for them.

Yeah. TSL said they'd heard H/B asked to move to Montreal, not that it's definitely happening. And I agree that Montreal makes a lot of sense for them.

 

[skategal]

Mary Poppins is even returning to the big screen too so the timing is just right for a fresh take on it.

I know! I can't wait for the new movie to come out! Wheeeeee!

 

[Spiralgraph]

A new Mary Poppins?? How can anyone be better than Julie Andrews? Okay I'll try to keep an open mind about this..

 

[skategal]

A new Mary Poppins?? How can anyone be better than Julie Andrews? Okay I'll try to keep an open mind about this..

No one better than Julie Andrews but the cast list looks great (Emily Blunt, Meryl Streep, Colin Firth, Lin Manuel Miranda, Angela Landsbury, Dick Van Dyke, Julie Walters....)

So I'm hopeful it will be good.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5028340/fullcredits

 

[lauravvv]

I would like to see:

• Tommy– Who

Hubbell/Donohue - I would like to do Tommy, Green Day's American Idiot(Blvd of Broken Dreams) or their rock opera 21st Century Breakdown(Know your enemy or 21 Guns)

That's in case if rock operas will also be allowed, as officially they are not the same as musicals. At least I've never heard/read someone refer to them as musicals.