Japan's Hanyu fumes at rival for 'intentional' collision

[Sugar]

Japan's Hanyu fumes at rival for 'intentional' collision
http://www.afp.com/en/news/japans-hanyu-fumes-rival-intentional-collision

Japan's Olympic figure skating champion Yuzuru Hanyu has accused rival Denis Ten of deliberately colliding with him during practice at the world championships.....The Japan Skating Federation is set to file a formal protest to the International Skating Union calling on them to warn Kazakhstan's Ten, who took bronze behind champion Hanyu at the 2014 Sochi Olympics..

 

[Spun Silver]

I cant believe that of Denis.

 

[Skittl1321]

It's a collision now? Before it was a few near misses.

 

[handomi]

It's a collision now? Before it was a few near misses.

media wants to make it bigger than it really is, there was only complain to Denis from jsf to look out more carefully during practices, nothing more

 

[bardtoob]

I think Hanyu is still in shock from the CoC 2014 collision with the Chinese skater, where I think it was intentional. Denis was in the way at Worlds 2016 practice, but reports from off the ice said it looked unintentional.

 

[mathil]

No one collided with anyone. The accident is better explained in this article by Icenetwork with quotes from the interested parties.

In short, Ten got in Hanyu's way two times during the afternoon session of the second day of practice. Hanyu was having his SP run-through at that time and thus had right of way, but was forced to stop in his tracks both times (video here -- 1:29 and 2:54). Then, Ten got in Hanyu's way a third time the following day -- yesterday -- again during Hanyu's SP run-through, by doing a camel spin in Hanyu's 3A trajectory. As soon as he saw him Hanyu yelled out at him, changed course, tried for the 3A again but fell close to the boards and punched/hit them with his hand.
There are some reports of this from FSUers who went to the practices in the Kiss&Cry section here from post #197 onwards.

 

[dawnie]

Regardless of CoC, Hanyu's behavior was a disgrace and made me lose a lot of respect for him. Screaming at Denis, punching the wall, and just having a plain old temper tantrum isn't sportsmanlike.

 

[Ananas Astra]

According to the Kazakh commentator, Ten is now being shitstormed by crazy Hanyu-fans.

 

[Loves_Shizuka]

Deary me

 

[bronwynsings]

Jackie Wong, who was at the practice, wrote exactly what happened in an factual way: http://www.rockerskating.com/news/2016/3/31/2016-worlds-practice-notes-day-4-a-note-on-hanyu-ten

 

[Meoima]

According to the Kazakh commentator, Ten is now being shitstormed by crazy Hanyu-fans.

Well many Japanese fans are just saying it was accidental and there is no need to make it big. I don't get why the media is making it bigger. They think this sells more I guess.

 

[dawnie]

According to the Kazakh commentator, Ten is now being shitstormed by crazy Hanyu-fans.

Shocker! Not...And what do you know? Ten is ethnically Korean so they must be going even crazier.

 

[Meoima]

Regardless of CoC, Hanyu's behavior was a disgrace and made me lose a lot of respect for him. Screaming at Denis, punching the wall, and just having a plain old temper tantrum isn't sportsmanlike.

It was his run though, so the same person got into his way 3 times, it's normal to get angry, and they were in practice which means their bodies were full of andrenaline. I don't think it's that a big deal. They got mad for several minutes and it ended.
The issue is the media is making it big while it's not that serious.

 

[Sugar]

Livid Hanyu says Kazakhstan's Ten maybe after him
http://kyodonews.net/news/2016/03/31/55288

Yuzuru Hanyu believes Denis Ten was out to get him during practice ahead of the men's short program at the world figure skating championships on Wednesday.

"I saw the replay but I think it was intentional," Hanyu said, referring to the Kazakhstani who cut him off as he was training to music. "But I shouldn't have let him get to me. I should know better."

"I was an absolute mess, mentally. But because I had lost it completely, it allowed me to wipe the slate clean and focus on what I had to do."

"I thought to myself, 'Yes. I showed him.'"

 

[AngieNikodinovLove (ANL)]

Regardless of CoC, Hanyu's behavior was a disgrace and made me lose a lot of respect for him. Screaming at Denis, punching the wall, and just having a plain old temper tantrum isn't sportsmanlike.

I know....

Carroll layed down the law, I like him so much.

 

[mathil]

Whether you agree with Hanyu's reaction or not, Ten was in the wrong, and the fact that it happened three times in two days speaks at the very least of carelessness from him. That the third incident happened after the two skaters had talked about it the day before means that Ten was aware of the fact but still did not pay enough attention. Other skaters seemed to be capable enough of staying out of Hanyu's way while he was having his runthrough.
I have no idea if Ten did so intentionally or not, of course, but I believe Hanyu had his good reasons to get angry.

 

[Meoima]

Double post

 

[Jun Y]

I think Hanyu is still in shock from the CoC 2014 collision with the Chinese skater, where I think it was intentional.

Are you saying that Han Yan intentionally gave himself a concussion by colliding with Hanyu at the 2014 event?

 

[GarrAargHrumph]

I think Hanyu is still in shock from the CoC 2014 collision with the Chinese skater, where I think it was intentional. .

Did you see that collision? That REALLY was not intentional.

 

[GoddessMode]

I think this is getting blown out of proportion, I was a little surprised about Yuzuru's reaction but no other skater is dealing with the level of pression he has besides Orser said that Yuzu was already kind of tense before the incident so maybe is a combination of things. I really dont think Ten did it in a intentional way. Lets hope they leave this behind.

 

[bardtoob]

Are you saying that Han Yan intentionally gave himself a concussion by colliding with Hanyu at the 2014 event?

I am saying go **** yourself for trying to draw me into that.

 

[GarrAargHrumph]

I'd have thought Hanyu would go to Orser, and Orser would speak to Frank Carroll, rather than filing a formal whatever. Did that happen, but no results or something?

 

[Jun Y]

I am saying go **** yourself for trying to draw me into that.

Whoa! Where did that come from?

 

[glenncoco]

Well that escalated quickly.

 

[mathil]

I'd have thought Hanyu would go to Orser, and Orser would speak to Frank Carroll, rather than filing a formal whatever. Did that happen, but no results or something?

I did post an Icenetwork article above where everything is explained. Ten and Hanyu talked normally after Ten got into his way two times during the second day of practice. The problem is that it happened again the following day and it was more dangerous -- that's when Hanyu got angry.

 

[handomi]

This should be leaved between two of them. Media jumped in and we have big deal from something to find sensation.

 

[bardtoob]

Are you saying that Han Yan intentionally gave himself a concussion by colliding with Hanyu at the 2014 event?

I am saying go **** yourself for trying to draw me into that.

Whoa! Where did that come from?

From your nasty politically motivated question. To the ignore list with you!

I have no horse in this interregional rivalry.

 

[Jun Y]

From your nasty politically motivated question. To the ignore list with you!

OK ... (backing away slowly)

 

[Jebrista]

I'd just like to point out that watching out for EVERY other person on the ice in and of itself is a hard task. Bring into account that you're practicing triples and quads at a world practice session, and it becomes even harder. At any normal practice session at any rink there are many MANY times when skaters get in each other's way. It just happens. While it is someone's run through, we have to remember that all these skaters don't know everyone else's choreography, so they can't necessarily predict which direction other skaters are going while simultaneously focusing on their own skating. People get in each other's way sometimes....it happens.

 

[watchthis!!]

I think Hanyu is still in shock from the CoC 2014 collision with the Chinese skater, where I think it was intentional. Denis was in the way at Worlds 2016 practice, but reports from off the ice said it looked unintentional.

I hear there's more than one of them.