Why Does This Keep Happening: The Police Thread

MsZem

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Clearing up some misinformation about the Breonna Taylor case:


Including the fact that there are not multiple witnesses that said they heard the police announce themselves. There was one and he said they only said it once and he thought it was entirely possible that Taylor and Walker didn't hear it. He also didn't say he heard them announce themselves the first 2 times he was interviewed.

This is definitely the same thing as saying it's been well-established that the police announced themselves.
Yes, I saw the documentary on Hulu and this was pointed out. It was excellent for those who haven't seen it.
 

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"Fellow attorney Sam Aguiar also spoke at the frustration that white neighbors got more justice than Taylor's family. "Way to really rub it in. Three counts for the shots into the apartment of the white neighbors, but no counts for the shots into the apartment of the black neighbors upstairs above Breonna’s."
 

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Breaking: Breonna Taylor news: The initial ballistics report that was included in the investigative file given to the attorney general’s office by LMPD failed to prove Taylor’s boyfriend fired the bullet that hit LMPD officer Sgt. Mattingly

 

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Breaking: Breonna Taylor news: The initial ballistics report that was included in the investigative file given to the attorney general’s office by LMPD failed to prove Taylor’s boyfriend fired the bullet that hit LMPD officer Sgt. Mattingly

I remember the FBI saying that they could not determine where the bullet came from. It's pretty hard to charge Walker with attempted murder without being able to definitively say that the officer wasn't shot by another officer. This has got to be the worst warrant execution in history. Did they do anything right? I can't see anything.
 

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The news reports indicate AG can't release the grand jury transcripts due to state laws. Although it's being reported they could release evidence reports and other materials as the governor has requested; and the AG could discuss what charges he arranged to be presented to the grand jury.

In the meantime, the police video of the officer who was shot has been leaked, complete with them decrying the unavailability of EMT personnel to help the officer. However, previous news reports have noted that policy mandated EMT personnel for these types of warrants but the police had dismissed them earlier when they showed up. Supposedly it contributed to delay in obtaining medical assistance for Breonna Taylor.

There was no problem releasing the e-mail from the police officer to the workforce. According to the officer they did the legal, moral and ethical thing the night they killed Breonna Taylor:
“It’s sad how the good guys are demonized, and criminals are canonized,” Mattingly wrote in an email to all sworn officers sent around 2 a.m. Tuesday and obtained by WDRB News.
Mattingly also said police do not care about a person’s skin color or “what you identify as … this week. We aren’t better than anyone. This is not us against society, but it is good versus evil.”
Have any of these officers expressed a statement of regret at the loss of Breonna Taylor's life? I have not read one, although Mattingly's wife wrote a facebook post expressing sympathy because BT's mother lost a child which is not the same.
Comment by one of the Walker family attorneys:
“We were told for months [investigators] would turn over every rock,” Aguair says, but he now believes compelling evidence was overlooked—and that discrepancies among crime scene photos, among other issues, were not addressed.

Aguiar tells TIME he has seen police reports and case files not released to the public, and believes details therein—specifically relating to the number of shots fired inside Taylor’s apartment, as well as an alleged pause between rounds—could not have been justified, and offered clear grounds for greater prosecution under Kentucky law.
 

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The WP article posted by MsZem and MacMadame on the previous page is a good list addressing the inaccuracies regarding the many missteps made by law enforcement. Combined with the above footage showing the officers involved walking around inserting themselves into the business of the investigators, it looks like a team effort to CYA and restrict transparency, rather than take responsibility for any of it. The only thing that has been made clear so far are the biases of the officer who sent that e-mail (above) to the workforce, although he may be only identifying himself as a tone deaf police officer "... this week ..." I suppose he has that option, unlike POC.
 

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Rutgers Law professor succinctly explains why the AG botched the law in his announcement regarding lack of indictment:


If he had really wanted an indictment, he could have received one.
 

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Disharmony in KY between a grand juror and the AG:
An unidentified grand juror in the Breonna Taylor case is demanding the release of the grand jury’s transcript and related recordings so “the truth may prevail.”

In a motion filed late Monday afternoon, the juror also asks a judge to allow fellow jurors to give up their confidential status if they wish and speak freely about the controversial case that saw one of three Louisville police officers who fired their weapons at Taylor's apartment indicted on felony charges.
The motion also accuses Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron of using the grand jurors "as a shield to deflect accountability and responsibility for those decisions" and says that has led to "more seeds of doubt in the process."

It specifically requests the court find grand jurors are permitted to discuss what didn't take place in the grand jury proceedings — including "any potential charges and defendants presented or not presented."
 

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After Prince George's County revealed the large settlement the Green family will receive, Murphy says it is the biggest such payout in state history.

"This is a historic settlement, the number here reflected the heinous nature the brutal nature the senseless nature of what happened to Mr. Green," said Murphy, "This says the Black life of William Green mattered."

Alsobrooks acknowledges taxpayers are on the hook for the $20 million. With a population of just under a million people that adds up to more than $20 from every resident of Prince George's County. "This is not the way we want to spend taxpayer dollars," said Alsobrooks, which is why we are doing everything we can to make sure we are never here again."
Ted Koppel did a segment on Sunday Morning about qualified immunity. Check out the disturbing story of a man who was victimized by the police in a case of mistaken identity:
 

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I'm on my phone so I'll upload a proper link when I am able. CNN is reporting that a grand juror is asking for transcripts and recordings to be released, saying that AG is misleading the public.
 

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I'm on my phone so I'll upload a proper link when I am able. CNN is reporting that a grand juror is asking for transcripts and recordings to be released, saying that AG is misleading the public.

Then there's this

And this

 

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This article is an interview with the upstairs neighbor who had two bullets come through his floor. It's interesting that he was a co-worker of Breonna Taylor and knew her since he moved into these apts and the AG did not initiate the same charges as he did for the other neighbor.
 

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More on the Breonna Taylor case. The AG did not ask for murder charges against the police officers who shot at her. So that's why the Grand Jury didn't return them:


Cameron recommended that the grand jury indict one officer on charges of wanton endangerment for firing bullets that entered neighboring apartments, but said the other two officers, whose bullets struck Taylor, were “justified in their acts."
“Our judgment is that the charge that we could prove at trial beyond reasonable doubt was for wanton endangerment,” Cameron said in an interview Tuesday with local television station WDRB.

The statement cast doubt on comments he had made during a news conference last week, when Cameron said he walked jurors through “every homicide offense, and also presented all of the information that was available.”
 

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In an interview with Louisville TV station WDRB, Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron is now admitting that his office never presented any charges against two of the officers involved in Breonna Taylor’s death, after initially telling reporters five times last week that the grand jury had made such decisions themselves.


In his press conference announcing the decision last week, Cameron told reporters at least five times that the grand jury made the decision to not indict the other officers in the case, Jonathan Mattingly and Myles Cosgrove, when in fact he never presented such an option to the grand jury.


Now, Cameron is delaying the release of the grand jury recordings.

In light of Cameron’s lies to the family of Breonna Taylor and the public as a whole, the Kentucky Democratic Party is calling on Cameron to release the grand jury recordings to the public as soon as possible, and to apologize for lying to his constituents.
 

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Officials from Wolfe City, located about an hour northeast of Dallas, said the shooting is being investigated by the Texas Rangers but did not identify the officer involved or the victim in a statement Sunday. Relatives and friends identified the man killed as Jonathan Price, 31, a city employee who was beloved in his community, WFAA-TV reported.

Witnesses told the outlet that a man and a woman were arguing at a Kwik Check gas station, and when Price tried to step in, the man assaulted him. Officers arrived and used a taser on Price before shooting him.
 

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The officer has been charged with murder. Witnesses said Price walked away with his hands ups and the officer shot him in the back.
After spending some time playing football at Hardin-Simmons University in Abilene, Price worked as a personal trainer in Dallas, friends said, but would return to Wolfe City to give inspirational talks to local athletes, work with kids, and check up on the town he still considered home. “Coach Price” became his nickname. “To know him,” one longtime friend wrote on Facebook this weekend, “is to love him completely.” He would eventually move back to care for his mother and grandmother, friends said, taking a job with the city and once again becoming, in the words of one local, a “pillar of the community.”

None of that mattered on Saturday night, when Price wound up at a local gas station he’d visited too many times to count. Friends and family members say witnesses told them that the beloved athlete was trying to break up a domestic dispute of some kind before Wolfe City police officer Shaun David Lucas arrived. A rookie, Lucas tried to detain Price, who resisted in a “non-threatening posture” and began walking away from Lucas when the officer tased Price and then opened fire, killing him, according to a statement from the Texas Rangers. (Witnesses claim he was shot in the back, but the Rangers haven’t commented on that allegation.) Price was unarmed before he was shot and the argument was over by the time Lucas arrived, friends and relatives said. Late Monday, the Rangers arrested Lucas, and charged with him Price’s murder. “The preliminary investigation indicates that the actions of Officer Lucas were not objectionably reasonable,” the statement added, noting that the Rangers are cooperating with the Wolfe City Police Department and the Hunt County district attorney’s office. Hunt County jail records show that Lucas was booked on a $1 million bond.
 

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