What does re-opening look like?

MacMadame

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I guess that can't happen for a long while if they block out change rooms and lockers.
Do they have them at your work?

When I was doing CrossFit, they had a shower but only one and it was kind of gross so I would just drive to work and shower there.
 

MacMadame

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Well, that's too bad. I worked somewhere that didn't have a shower and I did a track workout in the morning once a week where there wasn't a shower either. I could go to the gym to shower (the track was at the HS next to the Y that was sponsoring the track workout) but it always seemed like a weird thing to do so I would sometimes go to work and sponge off in the sink the Ladies. :lol:

I have a bunch of articles about what restarting sports will/is looking like that I will put in a separate message.
 

MacMadame

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Some articles about what sports will look like in the future:

Sports will be back but different:

NFL will lose money if played without fans:

How NHL might come back:

Mixed relations from players on Premier league coming back:
 

PRlady

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We are driving eight hours Friday to visit my old friend and her husband in the North Carolina mountains and driving back Monday. Other than necessary stops for bathrooms (we'll bring wipes) and fast food through drive-throughs, we will make it as low-risk as possible. Once we get there (knowing they haven't been anywhere but the grocery store in two months like us, and have all of 7 cases in their county) we will hike and enjoy each other's company and maybe get some great NC barbecue takeout.

I can't wait to get out of here but this is really for my husband who is going to need mental health treatment if he doesn't spend some time with congenial people. This is our first venture out since the second week of March, excluding the supermarket and for me, the dentist.
 

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I think people will be afraid to shake hands, etc. for a few years but once a successful vaccine is available to all, people will be more relaxed and things will return to what used to be normal. However, we are a very long way from that.
 

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Las Vegas is running new ads, indicating it will be different but will be open.
Other tourism ads for Alabama are running, indicating it will be different but they will be there.
 

VALuvsMKwan

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My own gym is filing for bankruptcy. That doesn't automatically mean my gym will shut down forever, but I am on the lookout for a new gym. My strata's gym is closed, not sure how motivated they will be to reopen.
This is the second time recently that I have seen this word used in a social context (as opposed to a geological one). What do you mean by this, please?
 

manhn

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This is the second time recently that I have seen this word used in a social context (as opposed to a geological one). What do you mean by this, please?
At least in British Columbia, a strata corporation is a legal entity with all of the powers of a natural person who has full capacity. This means that it can sue or be sued, enter into contracts and hire employees.

The owners of the strata lots are the members of the strata corporation. A strata corporation is created to divide a building or a parcel of land into separate components that are individually owned and common components owned by all of the owners.

In the day-to-day context, "strata" normally means the council running a condo or townhouse development.
 

VALuvsMKwan

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At least in British Columbia, a strata corporation is a legal entity with all of the powers of a natural person who has full capacity. This means that it can sue or be sued, enter into contracts and hire employees.

The owners of the strata lots are the members of the strata corporation. A strata corporation is created to divide a building or a parcel of land into separate components that are individually owned and common components owned by all of the owners.

In the day-to-day context, "strata" normally means the council running a condo or townhouse development.
Thanks for the explanation!
 

MacMadame

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In the day-to-day context, "strata" normally means the council running a condo or townhouse development.
In that case, my strata's pool plans to be closed for 2 weeks after the county says pools are open. :D

(It's just the corporation that owns the trailer park. And that is their rule for every park they own all over the country.)
 

once_upon

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So it's a HOA gym?

Our exercise rooms have never closed, but asked those who use them to social distance use provided wipes before and after use. The staff wipe them down every two hours and the rooms are seeped cleaned Friday and Tuesday.
I dont know how often they are used as we have said for the 18 months we have lived here...we should go and use the equipment but never got there :rofl:
 

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I can't figure a dang thing out....and I have been trying. I live in Sonoma County, CA. I went to the pharmacy today. The sign for elderly (where they bring the meds to you) was gone. However there was a sign that said "in compliance with the Sonoma county ********* order all Sonoma county residents have to wear masks. Um.....who is checking residency....no one. So if you come from a county 20 miles away you don't need a mask?

I am now of a mind that I trust no one on TV except Dr.Birx.

My grandson will turn 7 on Saturday. He lives 25 miles from me in Marin County. Whose rules do I follow when my doggie and I go to say Happy Birthday?
If he lives in Marin, you follow the Marin rules, which is very similar to Sonoma. Stores and shops in noth counties require wearing a mask.
 

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Control (I worked in politics for a time which made me very cynical). The level of hysteria and misinformation from all sides is really maddening. This is not the Black Plague. Media benefits because we click and click and click, addicted to it just like we are social media. It keeps us hooked and makes them money. I know so many people who are convinced if they leave their house, they will die, and if someone does leave their house or wants to go do something other than stay inside their four walls and maybe go to the grocery store, they deserve to die.

That and many states want federal bailouts, and I bet you a million buckaroos a lot of it has to do with shoring up the insolvent pensions but again I am cynical.
How do you know its hysteria and misinformation?
 

MacMadame

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If he lives in Marin, you follow the Marin rules, which is very similar to Sonoma. Stores and shops in noth counties require wearing a mask.
Every county in the Bay Area is requiring this so IMO AA is making a mountain out of a molehill. :D

@AxelAnnie I don't understand your obsession with this particular issue. First of all, we aren't supposed to be leaving our counties! Second of all, if someone does leave their county and sees that sign, are they really going to come into the store without a mask and scream "I don't live here so I don't have to wear a mask!" Even if they did that (which they won't), the first thing the store will say is "then why are you even here and not in your own county?" Right?

It's not that hard to just wear a mask if asked to and interpret your county and state's directives with a modicum of common sense.

I understand that sometimes government regulations can be confusing but it seems to me that our society now looks for reasons to distrust and/or ridicule the government and I think it's part of why we have gotten into a situation where our response to this crisis as a nation is so chaotic.
 

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Vaccine or no vaccine, I am not going to be afraid to shake hands, greet European colleagues / friends with air kisses, etc. I won't do it automatically, and will respect those who want to maintain distance, but I'm not about to let this ***** take pleasantries out of life for an indefinite period of time.

Some of the "precautions" just seem crazy - like kids in England will not be able to bring pencils to school! Are we really this paranoid and pampered as a society? We're sending a terrible message to children, IMO. If we end up with a generation of entitled, scaredy-cat brats, we'll have no one to blame but ourselves.
 

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Some of the "precautions" just seem crazy - like kids in England will not be able to bring pencils to school! Are we really this paranoid and pampered as a society? We're sending a terrible message to children, IMO. If we end up with a generation of entitled, scaredy-cat brats, we'll have no one to blame but ourselves.
:rolleyes: The pencil could come from a household where someone has the v*r*s, or could be carrying the v*r*s from some other contact, like a kid sharing their pencil with another kid inside or outside of class.

In the last few weeks, I've dealt with two organizations on things that required documents to be signed in person. Both organizations involve adults, not kids, and both asked me either to bring my own pen - which I used to sign the document and then took away with me - or gave me a new pen that I signed the document with and then kept.

This is not "entitlement" or "scaredy-cat" or "paranoid" or "pampered". It's minimizing the risk of exposure for people in environments that involve multiple interactions with different people throughout the day. If you've ever seen how quickly colds or flu or other germs can spread in a school during normal times, you'd understand why paying attention to small things like pencils is important during a p******c.
 

manhn

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I went to a coffeeshop this afternoon (I've been rotating among various shops in my office's area), and this one was the first to allow people to SIT ON THEIR CHAIRS. They do have a patio, so that helps. Inside, there was really just one table (maybe two). I suspect all the tables that were allowed to be used were occupied by people. All were in groups (socially distancing), I didn't see anyone on their own with a laptop (you know the type).
 

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I got a marketing email from the Venetian, one of the upscale Vegas casinos, announcing a resumption of operations in June. They’re disinfecting the chips every two hours, only 4 people on the Gondolas, no “Congregating” around sports books or slot machines ... among other things
 

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I've seen requests to bring your own pen from various businesses...farm stand, salons. If you think about a store pen and how many people use it (and the limited supply of wipes out there), it makes sense.

As far as pencils in school...lots of teachers end up supplying their students with pencils, esp in urban areas, b/c the kids just don't bring them to school (in some instances, they're afraid of them getting stolen).
 
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I'm not going to live my life in fear of pencils, doorknobs, handshakes, airplanes, gyms, mail, or anything else I'm supposed to now believe will kill me instantly or turn me into Typhoid Mary. Best of luck to those who want to live this way. I'm happy to avoid you as I live life. :lol: :summer:. If you make it to old age and I don't, you can enjoy the pleasures of dying of *********-19 in a nursing home (probably at the hands of a Democratic governor). :lol:
 

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I'm not going to live my life in fear of pencils, doorknobs, handshakes, airplanes, gyms, mail, or anything else I'm supposed to now believe will kill me instantly or turn me into Typhoid Mary. Best of luck to those who want to live this way. I'm happy to avoid you as I live life. :lol: :summer:. If you make it to old age and I don't, you can enjoy the pleasures of dying of *********-19 in a nursing home (probably at the hands of a Democratic governor). :lol:
Grow up. Seriously.
 

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When I accompanied my husband to his credit union so he could deposit a couple checks that had been made out to both of us, the teller provided me with a pen to use to sign the checks (wrapped in plastic, which I had to unwrap) and said to keep it after I was done with it. I would have thought that was pretty remarkable except I was more amused at having to provide my fingerprint before signing the checks - one for each check. These checks were for $50.00 and $1.00.
 

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I'm not going to live my life in fear of pencils, doorknobs, handshakes, airplanes, gyms, mail, or anything else I'm supposed to now believe will kill me instantly or turn me into Typhoid Mary. Best of luck to those who want to live this way. I'm happy to avoid you as I live life. :lol: :summer:. If you make it to old age and I don't, you can enjoy the pleasures of dying of *********-19 in a nursing home (probably at the hands of a Democratic governor). :lol:
Uh ... aren't you supposed to be an adult?
 

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Georgia defies predictions of ******** resurgence.


:watch::watch::watch::watch::watch:

On April 24, as more than 25,000 Americans continued to test positive for *********-19 each day, Georgia became the first U.S. state to initiate the fraught process known as “reopening.”

The move was controversial, to say the least. In the New York Times, Keren Landman, an Atlanta-based physician, epidemiologist and journalist, accused Republican Gov. Brian Kemp of potentially “setting us up for a punishing new wave of infections” by volunteering Georgia as “the nation’s canary in this particularly terrifying coal mine.”
Economists > epidemiologists

But now 26 days have passed since the state started to reopen — and that punishing new wave of infections has not materialized. In fact, according to a database maintained by the Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Georgia’s rolling seven-day average of new daily cases — an important metric that helps to balance out daily fluctuations in reporting — has fallen for three weeks in a row.

Those figures are undisputed — despite a clumsy effort by state officials to present the data in a way that made them look even better. [...]

The numbers reflect a slowing in transmission. According to the AJC database, Rt — an epidemiological statistic that represents transmissibility, or the number of people a sick person infects at a particular point in an epidemic — fell from 1.0 on May 4, to 0.94 on May 11, to 0.88 on May 16. An Rt below 1 indicates that each person infects, on average, less than one other person.
#SHAMdemic

The truth is, reopening isn’t a return to normal, and most Georgia residents aren’t behaving — yet — like it is. Businesses have to keep people 6 feet apart. Masks are recommended (although not required) in public places.

[...]

Meanwhile, the most recent Google mobility data shows that Georgians are getting around more after reopening — but still not as much as they were before the *********. Visits to retail and recreation establishments are 16 percent lower than the pre-******** baseline. Trips to grocery stores and pharmacies are 2 percent lower. Transit stations are 39 percent lower. Workplaces are 40 percent lower. Only relatively safe outdoors spaces like parks and beaches have seen an increase in activity, presumably reflecting the change of season as well as the end of stay-at-home orders.

That’s the balance reopening needs to strike if it’s going to work: fewer official restrictions in exchange for more individual and community responsibility.
PERSONAL FREEDOM > government mandates. :love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love::love:
 

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