Nobody wants anybody to choose between their life and their job.So for me, keeping things closed has a huge social justice component, so that non-essential retail and restaurants etc are not forcing their workers to make that choice.
Whether or not there is a second wave depends on how we respond to the first wave. If we use the time gifted to us by the SIP to increase healthcare capacity, contact tracing, testing capacity, then we shouldn't have a second wave. Instead, we'll have occasional hot spots that can quickly be put out. It has nothing to do with influenza vs. c0r*nav*vir*s. After all, the common cold is a c-v and we don't even try to find a vaccine for it because it's not worth it.Have we ever had a second wave of anything, post-WWII? I don't believe so. BB a CV, not influenza,
I don't think those are considered waves. Epidemiologists call those hot-spots. If they put them out, then they don't develop into a wave. This is considered the 4th choice in that article on modeling C-19 that I posted the other day. It's the best-case scenario.Aren't China and Korea having second waves right now? I would love for there to be no second wave, but epidemiology suggests otherwise.
We haven't though. I mean CA has. So have a few other states, I'm sure. (New York?) But the country as a whole has not. Also, it's not Democratic governors and mayors keeping everything shuttered. It's a combination based on the situations in their local area.The fact remains, we've flattened the curve, and predominantly Democratic governors / mayors are keeping individual citizens locked up and businesses shuttered. (Though no one is calling for full reopening with no restrictions.)
“Every time we experience something and don’t encounter a negative outcome, we get the wrong impression that it's safer than we thought it was." Famous behavioral economist on the subject of why so many people downplay ********.Different strokes but different folks, but personally knowing 15-20 people who have had *********-19 makes me more relaxed about it. All but one have survived and seem to have no ill effects.
I'm under the impression that many economists were in favor of shutdowns and were/are of the opinion that flattening the curve and getting the ***** under control via shutdowns was the best/quickest way to re-open safely and that opening too early would do more harm than good.I'd be more inclined to trust epidemiologists than economists on questions of whether measures to slow the spread of an epidemic were excessive for that purpose.
Sweden may not be brought up because there isn't much to see. https://tinyurl.com/yb7nlnrg
- the so-called Swedish approach
That doesn't have to mean that they didn't learn anything.There are also social justice components to keeping things closed - e.g., my niece and nephew have gotten no education since March.
Very true, although I don't think that's the instance.“Every time we experience something and don’t encounter a negative outcome, we get the wrong impression that it's safer than we thought it was."
I'm not completely against this, but I think it's unlikely to work too well unless all children repeat. I'm not an expert on education (others here are). I'd worry that there will be stigma for those who do repeat, and I think there usually is.Maybe I'm missing something but would it really be such a big deal if all children repeated a year?
School closures can have many adverse effects, not all of which can be mitigated. Distance learning can only partially fill the gap, as not everyone can easily access or use it. When schools close, kids fall behind - and the effects are especially pronounced for low-income children. Many children in special education programs can't just make up the difference a year later. School is a safe environment for children suffering abuse at home, and a place with mandatory reporters. There's a reason why countries that are in good shape in terms of handling CV are bringing kids back to school, and it's not just so that their parents can work.Maybe I'm missing something but would it really be such a big deal if all children repeated a year? Sure, they'd graduate a year later but at least, they, their teachers, families and friends got to stay healthy and alive and they don't run the risk of having any long-lasting health issues that they might have for the rest of their lives.
So who exactly is saying we need to get to 0 cases before we can get rid of the SIP? I ask this because I am constantly seeing this on my social media feed yet I see no governments implementing it. Or even talking about implementing it. Except for islands who didn't have a lot of cases to start with so it's feasible to go to 0.I don’t think we are going to get zero cases there has to be a trade off.
Targets here are open because they sell groceries. But you aren't limited to groceries. I bought some plates with my grocery order the last time I Shipf'ed.I suppose if you are like my younger cousins (my kids ages) and have been longing to wander through Target you might have rushed out. Although my kids aren't.
Can Hollywood stars expect similar treatment when The Ivy reopens?“Omg Jacinda Ardern just tried to come into Olive and was rejected cause it’s full,” a Twitter user named Joey wrote at about midday.
His tweet was accompanied by a ghoulish emoji, suggesting he was horrified that space was not made for the Labour leader, despite restaurants being limited to a maximum of 100 people and at least 1 metre between seated groups. A quarter of an hour later, he added: “Never mind they sorted her out.”
Arden’s partner, Clarke Gayford, responded to his tweet a few hours later, taking the blame for the brief hiccup to their day.
“I have to take responsibility for this, I didn’t get organised and book anywhere,” he wrote. “Was very nice of them to chase us down st when a spot freed up. A+ service.”
This is not why we don't have a vaccine against the common cold. They've been trying for one since at least the 1950s. The issue with developing a cold vaccine is that there are close to 200 strains of ***** that cause it. Once they discovered that there were close to 200 serotypes, researchers realized how very difficult it would be to find a vaccine. There are still researchers working toward vaccines and also cures for the cold, but we're not there yet.Whether or not there is a second wave depends on how we respond to the first wave. If we use the time gifted to us by the SIP to increase healthcare capacity, contact tracing, testing capacity, then we shouldn't have a second wave. Instead, we'll have occasional hot spots that can quickly be put out. It has nothing to do with influenza vs. c0r*nav*vir*s. After all, the common cold is a c-v and we don't even try to find a vaccine for it because it's not worth it.
Eventually. Maybe. Johns Hopkins researchers, for example, believe that herd immunity wouldn't take place until late 2021, and that millions of people would die before then. Researchers also aren't sure if herd immunity is possible, because although they're seeing that people who've had ******** do develop antibodies, they're not sure if the antibodies mean you are immune. And if you are immune, they're not sure how long that immunity lasts. They're concerned it may only last a few months.It’s possible herd immunity will develop.