What does re-opening look like?

Susan1

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I moved this - I think I saw something about eye doctors reopening on this thread somewhere?

Help? I scratched my glasses yesterday. I've had them since 2014 and I always put them somewhere safe. I have to take them off to put on one of four pairs of reading glasses in different rooms (tried bifocals, they made me sick). I've dropped them on carpet or other places where they have landed "on their back" and been fine. I even sat on them for the first time in my life last winter and just ran over to the closest eye doctor and had them adjusted.
So, my sleeve caught on the edge of the desk when I was getting them to put back on, and they fell "on their face" on the floor - first time ever, now, of all times. There is a scratch across the middle.
I have already needed to get new glasses because I couldn't wear the ones I got three years ago (too heavy on my ears), but I've been putting it off. Now what am I supposed to do?
Yes, of course, I would wear a mask, as would everyone in the office and sanitizing everything anybody touches. They have their guidelines on the website. But they have to get right in your face to do an eye exam. And my mask already hits the cheekbones under my eyes. I have to move my head to see things over them in the store. I can't try on glasses with the mask on. They can't fit them on my ears with the elastic over them.
I feel like I need to go sooner rather than later because cases are rising here and they might close things again. I looked on their website and they have plenty of appointments to choose from (spread out on certain days), starting Monday. I called my previous eye doctor yesterday and they do not take my insurance anymore, so this would be an all new place too. I'll call this morning and see what they think. The previous eye doctor said they don't even polish out scratches anymore because it changes the prescription, the way they make lenses now.
 

million$momma

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I moved this - I think I saw something about eye doctors reopening on this thread somewhere?

Help? I scratched my glasses yesterday. I've had them since 2014 and I always put them somewhere safe. I have to take them off to put on one of four pairs of reading glasses in different rooms (tried bifocals, they made me sick). I've dropped them on carpet or other places where they have landed "on their back" and been fine. I even sat on them for the first time in my life last winter and just ran over to the closest eye doctor and had them adjusted.
So, my sleeve caught on the edge of the desk when I was getting them to put back on, and they fell "on their face" on the floor - first time ever, now, of all times. There is a scratch across the middle.
I have already needed to get new glasses because I couldn't wear the ones I got three years ago (too heavy on my ears), but I've been putting it off. Now what am I supposed to do?
Yes, of course, I would wear a mask, as would everyone in the office and sanitizing everything anybody touches. They have their guidelines on the website. But they have to get right in your face to do an eye exam. And my mask already hits the cheekbones under my eyes. I have to move my head to see things over them in the store. I can't try on glasses with the mask on. They can't fit them on my ears with the elastic over them.
I feel like I need to go sooner rather than later because cases are rising here and they might close things again. I looked on their website and they have plenty of appointments to choose from (spread out on certain days), starting Monday. I called my previous eye doctor yesterday and they do not take my insurance anymore, so this would be an all new place too. I'll call this morning and see what they think. The previous eye doctor said they don't even polish out scratches anymore because it changes the prescription, the way they make lenses now.
I would keep the same frames and just have them replace the lenses.
 

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I feel like I need to go sooner rather than later because cases are rising here and they might close things again. I looked on their website and they have plenty of appointments to choose from
Give them a call and ask them what their *********-19 safety procedures are before you book an appointment - that way you'll know what to do when you arrive at the optometrist's and you'll feel safe (or if they don't have procedures set out, you'll know not to book with them). I'm on my third set of lenses in my current frames, so I'm sure they'll be able to put a new set of lenses in your frames too, which will help you keep costs down and the time frame for getting your new specs short.
 

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Yesterday was the first day with 4 people in the office (my org is MOVING next month, so I need people to come in and help me). Prior to this I was either there alone, or at most with one other person, and the office is large enough that we were easily 10+ feet away at all times, so no need for masks inside. Now, we're all moving around packing - we're never sitting/standing closer than 6 feet, but have to go by each other enough that it's mask central except for when someone had a zoom call in a small office.

Y'all. Wearing a mask all day long sux. Props to the essential workers who've been doing this the whole time.
 

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Give them a call and ask them what their *********-19 safety procedures are before you book an appointment - that way you'll know what to do when you arrive at the optometrist's and you'll feel safe (or if they don't have procedures set out, you'll know not to book with them). I'm on my third set of lenses in my current frames, so I'm sure they'll be able to put a new set of lenses in your frames too, which will help you keep costs down and the time frame for getting your new specs short.
They have their safety precautions on the website. It's just that they HAVE to be right in your face - eyes/glasses.

What would I do without the glasses while they are making new lenses, which I know the prescription has to be changed. Do they just measure and hope they fit? I do like these frames. These are my before the last glasses from 2014. I went back two more times, trying to get the prescription right on the ones three years ago. So I just went back to the old ones. If they don't get these right, I'd have to wear them because I wouldn't have old ones to wear while I'm waiting. I tried the last ones on last night - very blurry. And the plastic is too heavy on my ears. My eyes actually see different at different times of the day, or in different light. Or when I switch back and forth with my reading glasses. Cost is not a problem. Insurance pays, just not for all frames.

(I still have all of the glasses I have ever worn. My mom even kept my first brown pair from when I was 3. Blue cat's eye - hee hee hee, stop sign shaped - it was the 70's, man, 3-4 different pinks. And I wore contacts for 30 years. Lifelong eye problems - and eye doctor problems - eye specialist in downtown Dayton, Miamisburg, Penney's, Sears, Lenscrafters, a jerk in Oakwood, the medicaid place that closed after I got these, ophthalmologist, retina specialist. And these are the first glasses I ever dropped and scratched the lens of.) Why now? One more mess.
 

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They have their safety precautions on the website. It's just that they HAVE to be right in your face - eyes/glasses.

What would I do without the glasses while they are making new lenses, which I know the prescription has to be changed. Do they just measure and hope they fit? I do like these frames. These are my before the last glasses from 2014. I went back two more times, trying to get the prescription right on the ones three years ago. So I just went back to the old ones. If they don't get these right, I'd have to wear them because I wouldn't have old ones to wear while I'm waiting. I tried the last ones on last night - very blurry. And the plastic is too heavy on my ears. My eyes actually see different at different times of the day, or in different light. Or when I switch back and forth with my reading glasses. Cost is not a problem. Insurance pays, just not for all frames.

(I still have all of the glasses I have ever worn. My mom even kept my first brown pair from when I was 3. Blue cat's eye - hee hee hee, stop sign shaped - it was the 70's, man, 3-4 different pinks. And I wore contacts for 30 years. Lifelong eye problems - and eye doctor problems - eye specialist in downtown Dayton, Miamisburg, Penney's, Sears, Lenscrafters, a jerk in Oakwood, the medicaid place that closed after I got these, ophthalmologist, retina specialist. And these are the first glasses I ever dropped and scratched the lens of.) Why now? One more mess.
It may be that the optometrist will be wearing a transparent face shield rather than only a mask - that will give both you and them more protection even if you have to take your mask off at some points for parts of a test. You can ask them about that, it's okay to ask.

If you decide to keep your frames and get new lenses, they'll measure the frames and make the lenses to fit those measurements, then you'll go back in once they're ready (it was about a week last time I had mine done) and they'll take the old lenses out of the frame and pop the new ones in while you wait. It takes about fifteen minutes all up.

(My mum went in for an eye test just about as soon as they opened up again here because she thought she had a problem with one lens - she didn't, she needs a new cornea because her cataracts in one eye took off suddenly, the surgery is being scheduled soon - and she was initially a bit nervous about how the test would be done, but she said it was all organised quite well and she didn't feel at risk. If yours is as sensible as hers, you should be fine.)
 

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The problem with my eyes is they have to keep changing the prescription back and forth after a day. The "is a or b better" thing just doesn't work on me. The glasses don't work, they test me again a couple days later, and the result is different. I had surgery for lazy eye when I was 3 (way before technology - not in dinosaur times, but you know what I mean) and my eyes do not work together.

I got out all the old glasses. I have a pair that is almost the same size, but rose gold metal instead of light pink variegated plastic, including on the bridge, with the little side nose pieces, like all the reading glasses I have. The ear arms (whatever! I don't feel like thinking) aren't as pretty, just plain. And I can pretty much see the same. I could wear them while they are reconfiguring the ones with the scratch. I'll even give them back the last ones - clearer pink plastic. Can't they donate barely used glasses somewhere? After disinfecting, of course.

But then I was thinking when I got glasses the last time, they said I had to get new Medicaid frames, that they couldn't put new lenses in my old frames, even though the previous ones (the now scratched ones) were Medicaid frames. Use my old ones or use their new free ones? Wouldn't it make more sense not to use up another pair of their frames?

All the years of working and having vision insurance included in my benefits, I never used it for exams or contacts or glasses. I just paid. One pair of contacts for a year. Actually for many, many years, I have only needed a tiny correction in my right eye, so I only wore one left contact. And a replacement wasn't expensive. The glasses were just for backup, so it's not like I had to buy a new pair every year. When they tried the bifocals, I paid for them. Then when I had to just go back to the regular lenses, they still had to charge me for the bifocals - over $300, with eye and contact exams - in 2008. I think those are the ones that I can still see pretty well out of. The other pairs of pink ones are bigger.

I'll call this new place when I get back from my Meijer yogurt run.
 

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My hair stylist conundrum - I opted to ask for an appointment in mid-July at my regular salon with my old stylist. As much as I like my most recent one who doesn't want to come back, I'm not set up for her to do color at my house, and I'm more comfortable going to the salon where they will be heavily working to keep it BB-free (they have to - the owner's son who now runs it made it the face of the Bucks Co/Montco appeal to open up in yellow phase. There's a fair chance the news folks will revisit even thought they had to wait to green).

To the good - my previous stylist contacted me and we had a great conversation about my coming back. I deliberately set up an appointment after 2 weeks of "green phase" had passed just for safety's sake. And for the record, she was VERY relieved that I did not try to color my own hair. Apparently she will be doing a lot of color corrections in the next few weeks.

The only work on my hair was having DH trim my bangs, which he described as "the most terrifying thing I've done in a long time." Not the trim, but using my fabric scissors, which were the sharpest ones we have, and which are NOT safety scissors. He was mainly afraid he'd stab me with them (he didn't, and he did a great job).
 

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I assume eventually I'll have to do something with my hair. But no one i know sees me, except my husband.

We did venture out to outdoor eating/glass of wine last Friday sitting more than 12 feet from anyone else. I know my husband wants to do that more, but wont push too hard.
 

Yazmeen

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Mr. Mac's hair is so long that he has to wear a hat indoors to keep it out of his eyes!
For some reason while most of my hair is coming in dark grey, I have a bright white patch over my right eye - and my old stylist loved that when I told her - she wants me to keep it, so I'm thinking of it.

BTW, love your new avatar.
 

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@Susan1, I'm sure the eye clinic will have all the proper precautions in place. The workers there don't want to get the crud anymore than anyone else and are particularly at risk in the sense that they see many people a day. Though are trying to minimize that probably. Staff at my dental clinic told me that the dentist was doing whatever possible to see patients less, which is pretty difficult for a dentist.

As to glasses, I always keep a spare. My older spare pair has a different prescription, but still works well enough.
 

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This is a good article from a physician who treats C19 patients and is also the medical guy for USA Cycling. He is talking about cycling events but a lot of the things he's talking about apply to lots of outdoor athletic activities that aren't a team sport like soccer.

 

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@Susan1, I'm sure the eye clinic will have all the proper precautions in place. The workers there don't want to get the crud anymore than anyone else and are particularly at risk in the sense that they see many people a day. Though are trying to minimize that probably. Staff at my dental clinic told me that the dentist was doing whatever possible to see patients less, which is pretty difficult for a dentist.

As to glasses, I always keep a spare. My older spare pair has a different prescription, but still works well enough.
All righty then - catch them early. I have an appointment on Tuesday at 1:15. That part I did online. Then I called. The door will be locked and I have to call when I get there. Old Me - I will have to put their number in my flip phone and remember to charge it and take it with me. Somebody remind me Monday night! ha ha

They can provide a mask if mine doesn't work right. It's going to be the same blue disposable kind, but we'll see. I bought 50 of them. Maybe I should try a different one and get it bent properly before I venture out anywhere. She said she didn't see any reason why I could not use my old frames. But I have to sign a waiver in case something happens to them while they are gone - heating them up if they are brittle or whatever. (The eye doctor's office that straightened them when I sat on them didn't have any trouble.) So I guess I will have to wear the old, old ones while I am waiting for them to come back and hope that nothing happens to the old ones or I will have to pick out new frames and start over anyway. I didn't even ask how long it takes for them to come back. I told her the only reason I was doing this now was because I dropped them and got a scratch. She even asked where it was and how bad it was.
I've never needed or could afford a spare pair of glasses. Until a few years ago, my glasses WERE the spare, when I wore contacts. I only got new ones every few years. When we went to Virginia Beach, my friend Wendy and I both decided to leave all our contact stuff at home (sand, ocean, packing, etc.). It's the first time we ever saw each other in glasses. They are the only pictures I have of me wearing glasses since I got contacts right before my senior year in high school. So I had to get new glasses right before we went. Penney's wrote the prescription down backward (plus for minus or the other way around) and I couldn't see a thing when they came in, obviously. I went to the other end of the mall to Sears and told them and they did the exam again and had the correct glasses for me the next day. They either ate the cost or charged Penney's because I didn't have to pay for their second exam or lenses.

I've got 4 pairs of reading glasses - different colors (CVS buy one get one 1/2 off or 2 for $12 or something). I broke a pair of rose gold ones right after I got them, right on the hinge so I couldn't even tape them (just for reading here), when I was trying to adjust them to fit on my nose. Couldn't find any others that color.
 

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Nevada's governor put an order for face coverings in all public places in the state now, starting on Friday. And the f*cking yahoos on facebook started whining and rebelling as of yesterday. Meanwhile, earlier this week, our hospital lost our youngest patient to C19. Seriously people, this sh*t ain't going away.
 

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Nevada's governor put an order for face coverings in all public places in the state now, starting on Friday. And the f*cking yahoos on facebook started whining and rebelling as of yesterday. Meanwhile, earlier this week, our hospital lost our youngest patient to C19. Seriously people, this sh*t ain't going away.
After the Vegas casinos reopened, I saw a video on Twitter of a guy at a slot machine. He had on a mask but was trying to smoke (which clearly can't be done if you have on a mask). There was something comedic and ghastly about it.

But if masks are required and can only be taken off for eating and drinking, does that mean casinos are now (if unofficially) smoke free?
 

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One quote - after 3 months, it's worth the risk to see the beach. :wall: I didnt see any masks in those pictures 😷
The lack of masks is because there is no requirement to wear one out of doors here in England - not sure about the other 3 nations but I think they are the same - no mask out of doors. Of course with how close all those people were I would have said masks needed to be worn as they all seem to have gone down to the 1m limit we are suppose to be allowed from 4th July. Even then there is no requirement to wear masks out of door. There is a total and utter disregard to any semblance of staying away from others - I seriously feel that now BoJo is lifting a lot of lockdown from July 4th most of those who were at that - and other beaches - think CV has now gone!!! The infection rate here in England especially has stalled in its downward track and only needs more and more idiots not using masks and gather like they have been for CV to come back with avengeance. I despair - I really do :(:mad::wall:
 

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I think these two articles make good points - it's clear by now that to reopen safely(ish) people need to wear masks when indoors and/or distancing is not possible. It's also clear that we need to make masks more appealing and easier to wear to ensure that more people will want to wear them. Better, more comfortable masks will save lives.
(obviously Aubrey Huff is a moron)
 

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The Massachusetts department of education announced yesterday that their goal is to bring students back to school in the fall in some capacity, although details are yet to come. After consulting with public health officials and researchers, and considering the state's current status with a sustained decline in new cases, it's their opinion that it's possible to restart school safely, although special measures will have to be put in place. Each district/school will be required to write plans for how they would provide education safely in various settings, including in-person. The dept also acknowledges that if the ***** situation gets worse again in the state, school would have to be shut down again.

I'm encouraged by this news. I think it will be beneficial for the kids to get back to school, even if it's only part-time. The risks do worry me, but the social-emotional effects and learning effects of, say, another semester without school are also pretty worrisome.
 

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The lack of masks is because there is no requirement to wear one out of doors here in England - not sure about the other 3 nations but I think they are the same - no mask out of doors. Of course with how close all those people were I would have said masks needed to be worn as they all seem to have gone down to the 1m limit we are suppose to be allowed from 4th July. Even then there is no requirement to wear masks out of door. There is a total and utter disregard to any semblance of staying away from others - I seriously feel that now BoJo is lifting a lot of lockdown from July 4th most of those who were at that - and other beaches - think CV has now gone!!! The infection rate here in England especially has stalled in its downward track and only needs more and more idiots not using masks and gather like they have been for CV to come back with avengeance. I despair - I really do :(:mad::wall:
I agree there is no mandate to wear masks outside. However all recommendations from the infectious disease doctors I personally know, is that if even out doors you cannot socially distance 6 -10 feet and are in contact more than 10 minutes you need to wear a mask.

But our governor is stupid so even wearing masks indoors is no more than a suggestion. Businesses can say masks are required, but if counties required them in public buildings he will withhold federal monies. So I imagine anyone who doesn't want to wear a mask in a private business will point to Ricketts as a no mask reason.

I will listen to infectious disease experts about wearing masks.
 

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The Massachusetts department of education announced yesterday that their goal is to bring students back to school in the fall in some capacity, although details are yet to come. After consulting with public health officials and researchers, and considering the state's current status with a sustained decline in new cases, it's their opinion that it's possible to restart school safely, although special measures will have to be put in place. Each district/school will be required to write plans for how they would provide education safely in various settings, including in-person. The dept also acknowledges that if the ***** situation gets worse again in the state, school would have to be shut down again.

I'm encouraged by this news. I think it will be beneficial for the kids to get back to school, even if it's only part-time. The risks do worry me, but the social-emotional effects and learning effects of, say, another semester without school are also pretty worrisome.
Our government is looking towards 1/2 a class, every other week. So 50% in school, 50% online learning. Online teachers would not be the same as in class ones.
 

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Our government is looking towards 1/2 a class, every other week. So 50% in school, 50% online learning. Online teachers would not be the same as in class ones.
That's how my daughter's school will do it as well. Granted, schools in Puerto Rico are still closed and the Governor has not mentioned opening them, yet.
 

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CT governor release a complete non-plan and the union (and teachers and families) are NOT happy. It feels like businesses were really pulling the strings.

 

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Iowa said schools can open as normal in the fall. Of course Reynolds said individual school districts can make other restrictions as needed

I read that as do what you want, I take no responsibility, I told you can do what you think is good for your community. I take no responsibility
 

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