What about those Senate and House races

ballettmaus

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What does the party stand for?
What does the Republican Party currently stand for? Racism? Ignoring YKW? "Law and Order"?

The pundits on TV talked about coalition buildings in the days after the election. I'm sure they used the phrase before but it caught my attention; it suggests that Democrats are made up of several different parties and Democrats have to do coalition building before the election, unlike European countries that have to do it after. I think it's accurate but I also think it makes it a lot tougher to win votes.

Republicans seem to have the advantage that their supporters will vote for them as long as the candidate is from the Republican Party.
 

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It's definitely not just messaging.

I was reading this interesting interview/profile of Elissa Slotkin, who won reelection in a district that went for Trump (again), and this observation maybe speaks to that:


What does the party stand for? What unites Democrats? Having a clear answer to that question allows you to fine-tune the message and the approach at the district level.

And one idea from Slotkin that I haven't seen mentioned much in terms of things a Biden administration should act on quickly:
Well the Dems won on health care in 2018 without necessarily articulating policy positions so much, so that's one thing that is a winner for them. No one associates health care with Republicans!

The Democrats have been regarded as a collection of interest groups, so pro-choice, environment, unions, civil rights, so on and so forth, and so no big over arching vision. Obama tried to make it about hope and change which is vague but was a kind of Yes We Can and optimism and it worked for one election anyway.

I think it needs to be, not just what the Democrats stand for, but something that people can feel an emotional pull towards.

Its hard to do this and maintain a politics that doesn't eschew nuance, complexity, and compromise. And people really don't like those things.

I have no idea, but I do know that it doesn't matter if majorities of people agree with individual issue positions the party generally takes, they still can lose the majority of voters. I think its true that people don't feel like they know what the Dems stand for at the same time they know where they stand on specific issues.

All of this I hate to say, has been true for at least the last 40 years.
 

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Someone said that GOP just want MAGA to turn out in January for the GA runoffs, hence they are trying their best to placate Trump's tantrum. If this is true then it’s all about that majority of the senate position huh?
 

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Someone said that GOP just want MAGA to turn out in January for the GA runoffs, hence they are trying their best to placate Trump's tantrum. If this is true then it’s all about that majority of the senate position huh?
Convincing your people that the election was rigged is not exactly convincing them to bother voting again in January. Another possible backfire.
 

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Convincing your people that the election was rigged is not exactly convincing them to bother voting again in January. Another possible backfire.
But facts are facts and the rich republican white women in Atalanta suburbs don’t hate Perdue and loeffler as much as they hate trump if at all! Democrats job is to make them do so. They are being aggressive with lootingloeffler and corruptloeffler which means they support warnock more than ossoff which makes some sense.
 

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Joe Biden will most likely campaign in Georgia before he takes office and funnel personnel and resources into the two Democratic Senate campaigns there.
From https://t.co/7swAktv9N7?amp=1

If Biden wants to get anything done, he has to deliver those 2 senate seats! It isn't likely, but it's our only chance! McConnell has proved to be a supreme obstructionist, talking a good game about negotiations and throwing blame at the Dems when he's sitting on House legislation passed earlier this year! I don't ever want to hear about patriotism, the Constitution, or anything having to do with a moral compass from a Republican ever again after this historic episode with Trump! The contempt I have can't be measured; not for the crazy person at the top, but "the enablers" who know better! FK 'em all! :duh:
 
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Someone should come up with a more descriptive name if we are going to name call. The main thing about Mitch McConnell is that he has worked for years to undermine democracy and redistribute wealth upward.
Rich Mitch

He's actually as much of an elite as anyone on the Dem side who gets that name. He just not technically coastal.

My cousin and her husband moved to Atlanta a couple years ago from Oklahoma. They are Democrats so were so hyped for seeing their votes actually matter for the first time. They intend to volunteer in the runoff effort.
My friend Maggie got hired to do API outreach in Georgia. She ran a kickass campaign for a School Board candidate here. It was way more organized than Clinton's campaign. I now have hope for Georgia! :lol: No, seriously. If she and Abrams are the quality of people who are working down in Georgia, we have a fighting chance.

I wish everyone well figuring out a better way to say "defund the police"
Everyone's a critic but no one has a constructive suggestion. ;)

I think "Defund the Police" served its purpose. It got people's attention and got them talking.

Now that they are paying attention and thinking about things, it's time to "Reimagine Public Safety". That's what we called it in our report that got SROs out of our schools. (Except it was reimagining campus safety because, duh, schools)

So pass it on... it's not "Defund the Police" anymore. It's "Reimaging Public Safety." You heard it here first! :D [Not really. Other people have been saying it too.]

It’s not like Pelosi invented “Defund the Police.”
She doesn't even support it.
 

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when democrats in Seattle and Minneapolis reimagined public safety they defunded the police. It’s not about a slogan but what democrats did.
 

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From the WaPo article addressing the pressure some in the GOP have put on GA's Sec of State linked to in the Presidential Election threads:

Over the weekend, social media posts began appearing from Trump supporters questioning whether they feel comfortable using Dominion machines in the two runoff elections, which will determine which party controls the Senate.

I guess, Trump can keep tweeting about the machines then :shuffle:
 

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The NYT has an article today about how Susan Collins won Maine.


Honestly it's one of the more depressing things I've read yet about the election. She won partly by getting support from a well-known registered Democrat (!) sportscaster in Maine. He actually did ads for Collins at the end of the campaign, because apparently he and rural Mainers felt that Collins was being unfairly attacked and that people shouldn't have tried to tie her to McConnell and Trump and should have just looked at what Collins does for Maine. They painted Gideon as an "outsider" because she has only lived in Maine for 16 years. The article is centered around voters in Rumford, ME, and how they're angry because the paper mill industry there has declined dramatically and, I guess, no one has come along to save them and magically provide new jobs.

I suppose there are lessons to be learned, but I find the whole thing depressing. My dad's family is from one of those mill towns in Maine, and he and my mom live in Maine, so they've been watching Collins all these years. And my dad was saying years ago that she was never as moderate as people said and that she was much more in on the D.C. influence/corruption game than people thought. Ugh. Now we have to deal with another 6 years of her.
 

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I think "Defund the Police" served its purpose. It got people's attention and got them talking.

Now that they are paying attention and thinking about things, it's time to "Reimagine Public Safety". That's what we called it in our report that got SROs out of our schools. (Except it was reimagining campus safety because, duh, schools)

So pass it on... it's not "Defund the Police" anymore. It's "Reimaging Public Safety." You heard it here first! :D [Not really. Other people have been saying it too.]
Here's what happens when you Defund the Police, check out the situation in Minneapolis currently:

\https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/...ts-to-help-with-officer-shortage-911-response
 

Fiero425

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Now, now calm down. Your leader Joe Biden is calling for "unity". (After four years of obstruction and lies from the Dems/leftists.)

Hilarious as "your leader's" calling for "an uprising!" Very presidential BTW! History books will look more like "Mad Magazine" concerning his administration! He's not done; undermining intelligence agencies and firing people during a transition! It's amazing how patriotic Republicans always tout themselves, but Russia's been all over this party! Sessions busted lying about meetings his had with them, Trump allowing spies right into the OVAL Office on the sly (only knowing due to Russia papers), his minions coddling and humoring the old fool as we post is just plain embarrassing and dangerous! I can't believe your cavalier attitude at this time! WTF happened to you people? I don't have to GAF since old and retired! You're doing such a good job I shouldn't have to worry about a thing right? :confused:
 

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Debbie Mucarsel-Powell on her performance, why she thinks she lost and what Democrats can do to better appeal to Latino voters (and yes, she uses "Latinos" and not "Latinx":


I find the discussions about what Democrats can do to better appeal to Latinos kind of curious. They usually start with the claim that the Latino population is no a monolith and that understanding that is the first thing that needs to change. Then they continue on to talk about Latinos as a monolith. :shuffle:

I think the advice should be taken to heart here.
 

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I find the discussions about what Democrats can do to better appeal to Latinos kind of curious. They usually start with the claim that the Latino population is no a monolith and that understanding that is the first thing that needs to change. Then they continue on to talk about Latinos as a monolith. :shuffle:

I think the advice should be taken to heart here.
You're right, but I also think Mucarsel-Powell does a good job avoiding most pratfalls there. She doesn't really say she has a overarching answer to reach "Latinos" as a whole group, but just that in her case, the ground game was way more important. I think with the ground game, you get to talk to people as individuals and not just see them as faceless monolith groups. You get the nuances that way. She always goes against the idea that fear from "socialism" was a main catalyst which is now being used to broadly as if to appeal to everyone, but especially all Latino groups when that's not the case.
 

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