Ukraine Elects Political Newcomer As President In Landslide

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Political newcomer and television comedian Volodymyr Zelensky on Sunday declared victory in Ukraine's presidential elections after exit polls showed he was on track for a landslide win against incumbent and chocolate magnate Petro Poroshenko.

Life imitates art.

Zelensky's bid for the presidency was initially dismissed as a protest vote and a joke. The actor found fame in his role in the Ukrainian television series "Servant of the People" as a down-and-out schoolteacher who unexpectedly becomes President of Ukraine after becoming famous for an anti-corruption rant that went viral on social media.

Would be really interested to hear the perspectives of any Ukrainians here on this.
 

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From the articles I read in German media, he does not sound better or worse than the other candidates :shuffle: Most articles are neither positive nor negative.

From the outside it sounds a bit as if people mainly voted for him because they were disappointed with Poroshenko, but I don't think him being inexperienced means he doesn't deserve a chance.
 

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"The actor found fame in his role in the Ukrainian television series "Servant of the People" as a down-and-out schoolteacher who unexpectedly becomes President of Ukraine after becoming famous for an anti-corruption rant that went viral on social media."

Not much difference than the US having a reality show clown for president.
 

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Not sure a country that is at war with Russia can afford a clown for a president. Ze promises a lot, but is not sure how he will deliver it. He may soon find out that "ending the war" (which is a defensive war on Ukraine's own territory) is not as simple as "stop shooting" and allowing Russian sitcoms in Ukraine.

I honestly hope that Ukraine will not be that country that "perished after brief period of independence, because of victory of populist candidate in elections".

Very pessimistic at the moment. Poroshenko was not the greatest... but well... there was no better candidate. And voting for clown out of frustration (lots of Ukrainians admit they did not vote "for" but "against") is a risky move, if you are country that already lost territories, lost people and depends on reluctant western help for survival.
 

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I honestly hope that Ukraine will not be that country that "perished after brief period of independence, because of victory of populist candidate in elections"
Whom are you quoting here?
 

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Ukraine, the land of Quid Pro Quos

 

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Lol the beneficiaries were the parties of poroshenko and other corrupt people! And the cycle will continue
 

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A big part of the blame must go to Western Europe and EU nations that buy Russian gas keeping Ukraine hostage to Russia and the old ways!!! I mean people say yanukovych was a “pro Russian” leader lol!! And then he is replaced by “pro western” leaders and ZILCH changes. So why is zilch changing? Because everything is the same EXCEPT the leaders and what Ukraine is used and is “good for”- transport station for Russian gas- let’s be honest!!!!!
 

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That Trump would choose the Center for the National Interest as the place to premier his new seriousness on foreign policy has Manafort’s fingerprints all over it. For Manafort and the Center have something very important in common: both have ties to the Russian regime of President Vladimir Putin, (whose ambassador to the United States sat in the front row for Trump’s address).
 

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Facts are facts and so many Ukrainians who don’t want hostile relationship with Russia are being arrested or media shut down. That’s not democratic at all.
 

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When a hostile power invades your country, the common practice is to arrest, try, and intern or execute spies and other enemy collaborators. This is so even in democratic countries. So it is not surprising the Ukraine does not allow treason or sedition in a time of war either.

Examples:
France

UK

USA
 

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When a hostile power invades your country, the common practice is to arrest, try, and intern or execute spies and other enemy collaborators. This is so even in democratic countries.

We can say even more. Even slavery was possible in a “democratic” country, wasn’t it?

As for contemporary events, USA just believe they are those who may decide what is legal and what is illegal. If USA wants to grab Snowden or even a citizen of another country, it is supposed to be legal. If Belarus grabs Protasevich, the fact of grabbing is something unthinkable (the reasons are not important, right?).
As far as I remember, an airport manager from another country says that the plane was going to land in Belarus NOT because of the Belarusian decision. So it was NOT about grabbing a plane, it was about grabbing certain people (like the situation with Snowden).
It seems we know what is Snowden’s fault. He just showed some other things which USA does against other countries and against human rights.

USA think they may openly say to Ukraine who should rule Ukrainian companies.
https://tass.ru/ekonomika/11280303
USA think they may openly say to Germany that Germany shouldn’t choose the project which is economically advantageous for Germany.
USA also think they may openly support bloody revolutions or start wars anywhere. Isn’t it “common practice” for this “democratic” country?

I can’t say that I'm a fan of Lukashenko (the president of Belarus), but I’m grateful that there is no war in Belarus.

As far as I remember a man from Ukraine was saying that even roads in Ukraine had become extremely bad (even though he loves his country).
Do you think Ukraine has any changes for the better thanks to their bloody revolution? (I don’t mean their relations with other countries, I mean the situation inside Ukraine)
Only Poroshenko’s income was increasing (the “president” which Ukraine had got thanks to the revolution)
https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/5922452
Now Ukraine decided that even a comic actor would be a better president than Poroshenko.
Well, at least it seems the new president tries to better the roads
 
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The roads are a big deal. After Vermont's "Democratic Socialist" Bernie Sanders stopped being mayor of Burlington, he was followed by another Independent. Folks sneered at these people as 'hippies.'

Then Burlington went back to having a Republican mayor...for the last time. It was not a competent administration. They were voted out in the next election.

Folks said, at least the hippies kept the roads plowed.
 

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On the campaign trail, Zelenskiy pledged to clean up Ukraine’s oligarch-dominated ruling system. And he railed against politicians such as the wealthy incumbent Petro Poroshenko who hid their assets offshore. The message worked. Zelenskiy won 73% of the vote and now sits in a cavernous office in the capital, Kyiv, decorated with gilded stucco ceilings. Last month, he held talks with Joe Biden in the Oval Office.

The Pandora papers, leaked to the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists (ICIJ) and shared with the Guardian as part of a global investigation however, suggest Zelenskiy is rather similar to his predecessors.

The leaked documents suggest he had – or has – a previously undisclosed stake in an offshore company, which he appears to have secretly transferred to a friend weeks before winning the presidential vote.
He is not an anti-corruption crusader, but he plays one on TV. :shuffle:

Our resident trolls will be delighted. :yawn:
 

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