Wyliefan
Ubering juniors against my will
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I believe "There's no excitement in skating!" was the original draft of "There's no crying in baseball!"
Hadn’t she been growing all along, just more in the past year?People have said that about Isabeau every year for the last quad at least. It may be true someday, but people see incredibly excited to state it as fact any time she has a bad event.
First of all Elyce only just went to Tammy as a coach in 2023 so her jump technique is not Tammy's which is why she suffers way less underroted jumps then the normal US lady and that underwhelming free skate scored over 140 points at Nebelhorn. Yes she lets the nerves affect her and she needs to get better at competing but she handily beat some of these skaters who finished ahead of her Skate Canada. So no she is not run of the mill.I’m hoping the Elyce Lin-Gracey hype machine dies down after her GP results. To me, she still skates like a good, but run of the mill, junior with untrustworthy Tammy technique and an underwhelming free skate that goes nowhere. I’m not convinced she (or Everhardt for that matter) are the next big thing that some are making them out to be.
I also think people have gotten a bit too excited about Alysa Lu’s comeback. She has lots of work to do on jump rotations and stamina.
lol - Amber said not so fast.Dominating the early Senior Bs was exciting for American ladies. Now the Japanese skaters have completely turned the tables on the Grand Prix. Sigh, it was fun while it lasted.
It's not as though Sarah wasn't right there with her, saying "slow your roll, Japanese ladies..."lol - Amber said not so fast.
… Before my skate I watched my SP performance from Lombardia Trophy to go through what I have to do, it put me in a good mindset.
I applied so much mentally and I hoped I knew so much of the stuff that I know now much earlier.
Today during the practice I fell on my Axel, what usually never happens. It is my most consistent jump at this point. But I managed to be kind to myself and didn’t let it get to me.
This feel like the first time I am going into an event as one of the favorites, that’s new for me and it made me pretty nervous.
This program definitely helps me to feel strong and powerful. I skated right after Mai Mihara who I admire so much and who is such a beautiful skater. Back in the days this made me feel nervous and insecure but now I am having the confidence to just do my own thing.”
… But it was so cool and a lot of fun. I enjoyed every moment of my performance today.
”Even though she only got called up for this event two weeks she was prepared to get called up, so she felt ready.
She followed the last two GPs and was cheering especially on her teammates Isabeau and Elyce.
Agreed, Everhardt is looking good for the third spot for now. Being reliable is a big asset.We still have yet to see Lindsay debut, but right now, I think Sarah's really putting herself STRONGLY into consideration for a Worlds spot. Her scores between her two Challengers and her first GP are in that 196-202 range that is, in all likelihood, going to finish somewhere between 6th & 9th. That's just where we need her to finish if we want to ensure 3 spots next year.
… I had a lot of emotions and somehow felt really tired going into today.
I made a lot of small mistakes today, that was due to fatigue and self-doubt.
I somehow have this thing that I sometimes doubt myself and can’t believe that “this is really me, I am then like: no, this can’t be me, this isn’t happening.
”I was very nervous but the crowd had great energy and that helped me through it today.
Alysa still has almost three months to fully get back her endurance. I think she's the favorite for the third spot, even though I don't think MacArthur Park is a good vehicle for her style.Quoting Karen here because it’s more about spots and less about GP France
Agreed, Everhardt is looking good for the third spot for now. Being reliable is a big asset.
At this point, I think Tennell would be her biggest challenger, but she may also have to contend with calling at nationals, which could give her less of an advantage over artistic underrotaters.
I didn't specify who I thought were locks for the other two spots - though I'll say after today with Amber, I think she's doing what she needs to do to put herself in control of her destiny.Alysa still has almost three months to fully get back her endurance. I think she's the favorite for the third spot, even though I don't think MacArthur Park is a good vehicle for her style.
Isabeau does have a PCS advantage, especially as reigning World Silver. Alysa has potential to get her PCS into the 33.5/67 range.I didn't specify who I thought were locks for the other two spots - though I'll say after today with Amber, I think she's doing what she needs to do to put herself in control of her destiny.
I don't think Isabeau, Bradie or Alysa have a leg up on Sarah right now. All three are prone to rotation calls.
I don't think Isabeau, Bradie or Alysa have a leg up on Sarah right now. All three are prone to rotation calls.
She has an advantage. We'll see if she can maintain it. Here's the USFS' ISU Championships Selection Pool table they're using to determine who goes into the selection pool for Worlds & 4CCs (X = assigned Int'l). Note, I've left out the skaters who are ONLY junior age-eligible from this table as we're talking about senior Worlds at the moment. If someone wants me to share the table for the junior age-eligible women to know where we're sitting with regards to the Jr Worlds selection pool, let me know!Isabeau has a big leg up on everyone on BOW right now, though.
Skater | Level | Age Eligible | ISU Min Score | 2024 U.S. Nats | GPF | GP/ JGP 1 | GP/ JGP 2 | GP/ JPG Highest | GP/ JGP Avg | CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 1 | CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 2 | CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int Highest | CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int Avg | Sect Final (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR) | NQS Score (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR) | Non-USFS Funded Event | Prev Yr Final Number | Total |
Andrews, Starr | S | Y | Y | 0.00 | 0.00 | 164.89 | 151.65 | 164.89 | 158.27 | 196.77 | 0 | 332.79 | ||||||
Bonillo, Alina | S/J | Y | N/N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 119.03 | 119.03 | 59.52 | 0 | 163.67 | ||||||||
Cui, Ting | S | Y | N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0 | 0.00 | |||||||||
Evans, Alex | S | Y | N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 162.11 | 148.91 | 0 | 114.98 | |||||||
Everhardt, Sarah | S/J | Y | Y/Y | 196.94 | X | 196.94 | 98.47 | 196.42 | 201.90 | 201.90 | 199.16 | 0.00 | 0 | 720.53 | ||||
Gewalt, Brooke | S | Y | 4CCs | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 153.39 | 0 | 76.70 | ||||||||
Glenn, Amber | S | Y | Y | 210.44 | X | 210.44 | 105.22 | 212.89 | 212.89 | 106.45 | 0.00 | 4 | 747.30 | |||||
Heiner, Jill | S | Y | N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0 | 0.00 | |||||||||
Hilmer, Sonja | S | Y | 4CCs | 0.00 | 0.00 | 151.43 | 151.43 | 75.72 | 0 | 208.22 | ||||||||
Lee, Michelle | S | Y | 4CCs | 0.00 | 0.00 | 154.59 | 154.59 | 77.30 | 0 | 212.56 | ||||||||
Levito, Isabeau | S/J | Y | Y/N | 194.83 | X | 194.83 | 97.42 | 193.81 | 198.13 | 198.13 | 195.97 | 0.00 | 12 | 890.41 | ||||
Lin-Gracey, Elyce | S/J | Y | Y/Y | 183.94 | 182.37 | 183.94 | 183.16 | 193.99 | 213.33 | 213.33 | 203.66 | 0 | 824.94 | |||||
Liu, Alysa | S/J | Y | Y/N | 187.69 | X | 187.69 | 93.85 | 192.77 | 192.77 | 96.39 | 0 | 616.98 | ||||||
Seo, Clare | S/J | Y | 4CCs/N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 147.66 | X | 147.66 | 73.83 | 0.00 | 0 | 203.03 | ||||||
Tennell, Bradie | S | Y | Y | 192.04 | X | 192.04 | 96.02 | 196.61 | 196.61 | 98.31 | 0 | 630.41 | ||||||
Thorngren, Lindsay | S/J | Y | Y/N | X | X | 0.00 | 0.00 | 179.45 | 179.45 | 89.73 | 191.55 | 0 | 294.63 | |||||
Wang, Lindsay | S | Y | N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0 | 0.00 | |||||||||
Warne-Jacobsen, Wren | S | Y | N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 141.63 | 141.63 | 70.82 | 0 | 194.74 | ||||||||
Ziegler, Ava | S/J | Y | Y/N | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 0.00 | 3 | 45.00 |
Or, you know, Amber????I think usfs will and should send one seasoned competitor to worlds even if that skater is prone to rotation/caller issues. Which means one of Brandie Alysa and now perhaps Levito. They are known to do decent shorts for one
I'm withholding judgment until after CoC. If she can maintain this kind of scoring through her 2nd GP when the pressure is on to qualify for the GPF, then I'll consider her a lock.I thought Amber was a given nowand the current discussion is about the 2nd & 3rd spots?
I'm withholding judgment until after CoC
Should Alysa have 5 in the previous season? The 2025 Worlds selection document says that for Previous Olympics/World Championships, 4-8 placements receive 5 points, and Alysa was 6th in 2022.She has an advantage. We'll see if she can maintain it. Here's the USFS' ISU Championships Selection Pool table they're using to determine who goes into the selection pool for Worlds & 4CCs (X = assigned Int'l). Note, I've left out the skaters who are ONLY junior age-eligible from this table as we're talking about senior Worlds at the moment. If someone wants me to share the table for the junior age-eligible women to know where we're sitting with regards to the Jr Worlds selection pool, let me know!
Skater Level Age Eligible ISU Min Score 2024 U.S. Nats GPF GP/ JGP 1 GP/ JGP 2 GP/ JPG Highest GP/ JGP Avg CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 1 CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int 2 CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int Highest CS/ Sr B/ Jr Int Avg Sect Final (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR) NQS Score (Top 2 in each Section JR/SR) Non-USFS Funded Event Prev Yr Final Number Total Andrews, Starr S Y Y 0.00 0.00 164.89 151.65 164.89 158.27 196.770 332.79Bonillo, Alina S/J Y Y 0.00 0.00 119.03 119.03 59.520 163.67Cui, Ting S Y Y 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.000 0.00Evans, Alex S Y Y 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 162.11 148.910 114.98Everhardt, Sarah S/J Y Y 196.94X 196.94 98.47 196.42 201.90 201.90 199.16 0.000 720.53Gewalt, Brooke S Y Y 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 153.390 76.70Glenn, Amber S Y Y 210.44X 210.44 105.22 212.89 212.89 106.45 0.004 747.30Heiner, Jill S Y Y 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.000 0.00Hilmer, Sonja S Y Y 0.00 0.00 151.43 151.43 75.720 208.22Lee, Michelle S Y Y 0.00 0.00 154.59 154.59 77.300 212.56Levito, Isabeau S/J Y Y 194.83X 194.83 97.42 193.81 198.13 198.13 195.97 0.0012 890.41Lin-Gracey, Elyce S/J Y Y 183.94 182.37 183.94 183.16 193.99 213.33 213.33 203.660 824.94Liu, Alysa S/J Y Y 187.69X 187.69 93.85 192.77 192.77 96.390 616.98Seo, Clare S/J Y Y 0.00 0.00 147.66X 147.66 73.83 0.000 203.03Tennell, Bradie S Y Y 192.04X 192.04 96.02 196.61 196.61 98.310 630.41Thorngren, Lindsay S/J Y Y X X 0.00 0.00 179.45 179.45 89.73 191.550 294.63Wang, Lindsay S Y Y 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.000 0.00Warne-Jacobsen, Wren S Y Y 0.00 0.00 141.63 141.63 70.820 194.74Ziegler, Ava S/J Y Y 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.003 45.00
No. The "previous" is JUST for the 2024 results. There is a link to the sample Excel data proposal form at the end of the document - https://usfigureskating-my.sharepoi...ZKliF__bwBEV4BDnarhuYAqLwU6AYPcpMuMg?e=nNXIc5Should Alysa have 5 in the previous season? The 2025 Worlds selection document says that for Previous Olympics/World Championships, 4-8 placements receive 5 points, and Alysa was 6th in 2022.
2024 Worlds 1 | 2024 Worlds 2 or 3 | 2024 Worlds 4,5,6,7,8 | 2024 Four Continents 1,2,3 | 2024 Four Continents 4,5 | 2024 Junior Worlds 1,2,3 | 2024 U.S. Champs 1 | 2024 U.S. Champs 2, 3 | Prev Yr Final Number |
And had Shae-Lynn Bourne do the choreo.I also love that Sarah Everhardt (who reminds me so much of another Sarah it's uncanny) chose selections from Riverdance (like Bradie with LOTD) for her short. So you really sense she has made Boston her mission with that choice.