U.S. Men 2026-27 Discussion - Of Ice and Men

Someone on Reddit posted that Lucius Kazanecki may have changed coaches and training location according to his ISU bio...? (Former coaches are listed as N/A)

Coach: Oleg Makarov, Larisa Selezneva (They are Jacob Sanchez's coaches)
  • Practice low season Lake Placid, NY
  • Practice high season Newburgh, NY

I’ve seen him in the background of Jacob Sanchez’s YouTube videos and wondered if he had switched. I think it would be a good move because the quality of his basic skating needs the most work and this team is really good at that.
 
Caleb looked very slow to me today. Seemed like he just couldn't get the momentum to make the jumps work. :( Wishing him better luck next time. He's the most gorgeous skater.
 
Anyone know, did Caleb have a growth spurt? He looked clumsy/awkward in Riga. Though, I think he had the only 3-3-3 in the competition
 
Yes, Caleb looked taller and technical issues are often more serious at the start of any skater's season. Caleb also changed coaches over the off-season and it looks like he is adjusting to new technique.

I love the fluidity and musicality that I see in Caleb's skating but I want to see him hold out his moves a lot longer and stretch out his limbs, point and turn out the free-foot and just give his skating a more finished and polished look. I see from his bio that he is now working with Johnny Weir. I hope Johnny can help Caleb with his line, stretch and position because these are things that Johnny was always really good at.

Moreover, I think Caleb might benefit from looking at skating vids featuring Olympic Gold Medalist John Curry. I would like to see Caleb's skating develop in that direction.
 
Kao Miura has a series of essays in a Japanese publication, and this time he talked about his training experience with Ilia and his parents that took place over the last 2 weeks.
He wanted to know why Ilia's jumps are so consistent, and the things he discovered about Ilia's jumps are very interesting, so I have translated that part below.

“Training Expedition” with the Malinin Family in Washington: What Did Kao Miura Learn from the “Quad God”?

The “Consistency” I Wanted To Learn

In late August, I spent about two weeks training at Ilia’s rink. The main reason I decided to ask Ilia for help this time was last season’s World Championships (where I finished 25th in the SP and didn’t advance to the FS). I felt I needed to change something, so I wanted to train with an amazing skater overseas. After all, Ilia is a champion who has won three consecutive World Championships, so I really wanted to learn from him.

What I wanted to know most was his “consistency.” I suspected there might be a secret behind his stability. Aside from national team training camps, this was the first time I’d ever gone to train somewhere other than my home rink. I spoke with Ilia during an ice show in Japan, and he readily agreed. “If you come, you’ll be able to do this kind of training,” he said. Ilia’s parents said OK about the idea. (Note: Malinin’s parents are former skaters from Uzbekistan; his mother, Tatiana, is a former champion at the Four Continents Championships and the Grand Prix Final. Both of them coach Malinin.)

A Strict Mother, A Kind Farther

In the U.S., I skated with Ilia, and his mother and farther coached me. We practiced on the ice in the mornings and evenings. On Saturdays, we only practiced in the morning, and Sundays were off. His mother was in charge of the morning sessions. She’s very kind off the ice, but she’s strict when it comes to coaching (laughs). But that strictness is what led to my growth. His mother also taught me spins and steps.

In the evenings, I received instruction from his farther. His farther is just so kind! Both his mother and farther share the same coaching philosophy. Ilia also gave me advice. It really felt like I was being taught by his whole family.

“Wait And Jump”

As for the key to jumps—or rather, consistency—that was the aspect I most wanted to master. Ilia can execute every jump in exactly the same way. From single to quadruple jumps, they’re all the same. He’s always consistent and incorporates them into his programs.

Up until now, I’d inevitably tend to tighten my body too early. Because I’d start the rotation from my arms, there were times when I’d get thrown off balance or lose my axis. So, “waiting instead”—“waiting before jumping”—became one of the key points.

Also, my takeoff trajectory would sometimes become random. I think there are many skaters like that. So, I practiced to ensure I could jump consistently along the same trajectory every time.

Generally speaking, I think most people believe it’s better to rotate quickly. They think the approach should be straight—enter straight and jump. But Ilia and his parents had a different perspective. They told me to hold my body position as long as possible and jump in sync with my body’s rotation. As for the approach, they said it’s most important to “create the perfect line” to jump —not entering the curve too sharply, nor going too straight.

For example, even with the toe loop, I think most skaters generally enter the jump in a straight line. Ilia said he finds it easier to enter from a slight curve. I think that line choice is the most important thing—it’s like using the momentum from skating the curve to carry you into the rotation.

Training The Body To Remember It

I practiced that method over and over, but it’s really hard to change something that’s been ingrained in my body for so many years. There’s still some inconsistency, but when I was able to land the jump the way I was taught, I definitely felt that “this is it” sensation. I worked on it with the goal of gradually increasing the number of times I could pull it off. Even when I did succeed, the number of success was still too few. My brain remembers it, but it’s hard for my body to reproduce it, so I have no choice but to let my body learn it. The goal is simply to be able to execute the jump motion consistently.

Up until now, I’ve been using power to jump. Ilia told me, “(You are using) Too much power.” He said I didn’t need to use that much power. He taught me “Even without using a lot of energy, if you build up the momentum properly and jump up the same way, you can jump well just by getting the timing right.”

It’s hard to notice these things just by watching. I’d watched slow-motion footage of Ilia’s jumps before, and it looked to me like his arms were moving ahead of his body to initiate the tight rotation. But I was mistaken. The reason his arms looked like they were moving ahead was simply because his rotation was so fast. He tightens his body very quickly. His arms are rotating along with his body. He does this the same way on every jump. You wouldn’t understand that unless someone actually taught you. I learned this from three different people, so coming here was really worthwhile.

Eating Ramen Together

Between practice sessions, I went out for ramen with Ilia. It tasted a lot like Japanese ramen and was delicious! The flavor was sort of like tonkotsu shoyu (pork bone and soy sauce). He even invited me over to his house. Whether he’s skating or just hanging out, Ilia never seems tense. And he’s so funny!

Ilia loves Japan and was really excited to be competing in the NHK Trophy this year. He mentioned that his whole family might come. I know his schedule might not allow it, but I’d love to take him out to dinner as a way of thanking them for everything they did for me this time.
 
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From JSF's Instagram:

Jacob, Liam, Lucius (and Lukas Vaclavik SVK) have showed up in the Instagram stories of KOBE Beef Emperor Steak – Shibuya
Center Gai :D: https://www.instagram.com/stories/emperorsteak_shibuyacentergai/3977271040664187677/

ETA that Jacob's Instastory shows him, Lucius, Oleg Makarov and Lukas of SVK on unofficial practice ice earlier today.

From the Programs/Choreographers thread:
Per an ISU bio update (which also removed references to his previous coaches Malinina/Skorniakov)

Lucius Kazanecki (USA)
SP: God the Hunter by Nico Cartosio
FS: Become a Mountain by Dan Deacon
the listed choreographers are Lori Nichol and Kaitlyn Weaver
 
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CS Lombardia Trophy (Sept. 17-20 in Bergamo ITA) entries recently were published by the ISU and Daniel Martynov and Taira Shinohara are the 2 U.S. men listed.

Last week Daniel posted about Cranberry Cup (won the silver) and his "first Champs Camp experience":

Taira posted a clip of his first 4Lz today:
He confirmed last week that he is going to Bergamo with a 3A clip: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DcmpL50Ih-c/
 
Short update on Jacob Sanchez from his Summer Sizzler media interviews:

 
Kao Miura talks about Ilia Malinin in more detail in an interview with the Japanese media. I'm not sure whether to put this here, in the Japanese Skaters' thread, or in Ilia's thread😅. But since he discusses Ilia's jumping technique again, I will put it here.

Note: Since iliamalininerd1202 did a summary (thanks!), I will quote most of them (I got her permission) with some added contents in parenthesis by myself.

Original article (there are 3 of them which are identical content-wise): https://deepedgeplus.kyodonews.jp/comment/186526/ (behind the paid wall)
Source: https://www.threads.com/@iliamalininerd1202/post/Dc022ariVk6

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Kao Miura Reveals the Malinin Method: The Purpose of Keeping the Right Hand* Back
(Note: Kao uses the Japanese word for 'right hand', but I think he actually means 'right arm', so I have used 'arm' in my translation below.)

(- You came back from training camp with Ilia.

I (Kao) learned about jumps and the themes he (Ilia) set for practice, and I strongly felt his passion for skating—it was a very meaningful camp.)

- Things you've been incorporating into your practice from the experience - is there any the Malinin Method you learned?

(If you've been watching him closely during all his jumps, you'll notice that Ilia always keeps his right arm still). He “keeps” his right arm still until the moment of takeoff. (Maintain your balance, pull your right arm back, and hold it there without moving it until the moment you jump)
I tend to extend my hand too soon. Also, while many Japanese skaters have the image of jumping straight up, he taught me that jumping with a curve requires less energy, so that really changed my approach.

(What are the things you found most beneficial?

If you bring your arm in too quickly, your axis gets off. This can result in popping or truly random jumps, so by holding your right arm steady and letting it go with the rotation naturally, you will get consistency.)

What proportion of what you learned came from Malinin versus his parents?

The entire family was consistent in what they taught me. Whether it was lessons from his dad and mom or advice from Ilia, they all said the same things each time, so I was able to have very productive practice sessions.

How did you spend your time with Malinin?

We were together constantly, both during training and outside of it. He took me to all sorts of places, and we talked a lot.

What did you sense about “Ilia’s passion for skating”?

He’s a Skeota (Japanese slang, means figure skating nerd)(laughs). (My note: Skeota is abbreviation of Skating Otaku). He’s watched and knows so many skaters, including juniors, and I just feel that he absolutely loves skating. Also, the advice he gives—like pointing out common mistakes Japanese skaters tend to make, why your performances can become erratic, or explaining that wasting energy means you won’t be able to land jumps in the second half—is delivered in a very smart way. He’s smart—incredibly smart. He's incredibly trustworthy.

Malinin himself once said, “I have some things in common with Kao.” Were there any similarities you noticed this time?

Since new programs from various skaters have been announced and are now available to watch, when we watched them together, I felt that our tastes—like which skates we liked or when we’d say, “This skater is great”—were quite similar.

Was Malinin himself doing well?

He’s doing great. He’s been doing well since around April.

Did you talk about the Olympics and the Prague World Championships?

We did, and actually, he really rubed salt in my wounds (laughs). It was so funny when he showed me a TikTok where I'm being teased.

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I couldn't agree more that Ilia is a skating otaku. I've seen him come to watch practices even when it wasn't his group, and come out to watch performances of other skaters, even young ones, in shows. He just seems to love skating so much.

BTW what kind of Tiktok clips did Ilia show Kao!?😂
 
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Last week Daniel posted about Cranberry Cup (won the silver) and his "first Champs Camp experience":
Martynov was added to Skate America on the ISU Grand Prix Men’s grid today.
 
Did you talk about the Olympics and the Prague World Championships?

We did, and actually, he really rubed salt in my wounds (laughs). It was so funny when he showed me a TikTok where I'm being teased.

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I couldn't agree more that Ilia is a skating otaku. I've seen him come to watch practices even when it wasn't his group, and come out to watch performances of other skaters, even young ones, in shows. He just seems to love skating so much.

BTW what kind of Tiktok clips did Ilia show Kao!?😂

Possibly this one since Kao reposted it? https://www.reddit.com/r/FigureSkating/s/rtD5erPavs
Poor Kao, but glad he has a sense of humor about it 😅 Some days we all feel like him indeed
 
Jacob's upbeat post after CS Kinoshita Group Cup:

Lucius' post (reveals his next comp. will be CS Trialeti Trophy):

Liam hasn't posted on his Insta yet.

9 Jacob SANCHEZ USA 206.50 5 (75.43) 10 (131.07 - 4S< & 4S<< falls but 1st time attempting the jump internationally)
12 Liam KAPEIKIS USA 193.20 7 (73.28) 14 (119.92)
13 Lucius KAZANECKI USA 189.29 12 (66.14) 11 (123.15)
 
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Posting some of my random thoughts on U.S. men after Thailand and Kinoshita.

First of all, really happy to see Louis Mallane skate so well in Thailand. He skated pretty clean, had enjoyable programs and seemed to really enjoy himself. He really has lovely easy technique on his jumps and spins. His skating skills are quite nice at his age. He is much less junior gawky this year…looks more mature. He also seems to be pretty consistent in competition. All and all he has the makings of a bright future.

I thought Hitonari Tani came across as really loving skating. He was going for it in the free. Lots of attack. He’s 15 and has much to work on. Hadn’t seen him before, but I’ll be following him.

Lucius Kazanecki surprised me with such a sub-par performance in both programs. I think of him as fairly consistent, based on the fact that he medaled in his Junior Grand Prix events last year. And medaled in the JGP final when others caved to the pressure. Plus he skated well at U.S. Nationals last year. I thought his sectionals performance was an outlier last year. His opening quad combo in the free at Kinoshita was very good. He does have a good quad toe. He also looks much better in his skating and posture this year, especially in the short program. He is really a striking figure on the ice.

Jacob Sanchez also surprised me with somewhat weak skates. His skating skills and edges are devine. Beautiful spins. Love watching him so much. Please get that quad, because I think the judges like him a lot and want to give him the scores too. But he can’t pop jumps and have messy landings with no quad. He has a very novel entrance to his quad salchow….hmmm. I absolutely love his short program. Classical music suits him well. Not on the bandwagon for his free (yet). I don’t love super powerful, dark music on him. He is so charming and does lighter, charming fare better that utilizes his charisma. He has a smile that lights up the place.

Liam Kapekis is a lovely skater, but unfortunately he just doesn’t seem to be able to progress his jump content year to year. I still recall how much I loved his free program last year. Glad he got the opportunity to skate in Japan.

Lucas Broussard come back :mitchell: :soapbox: (I really miss him).
 
First of all, really happy to see Louis Mallane skate so well in Thailand. He skated pretty clean, had enjoyable programs and seemed to really enjoy himself. He really has lovely easy technique on his jumps and spins. His skating skills are quite nice at his age. He is much less junior gawky this year…looks more mature. He also seems to be pretty consistent in competition. All and all he has the makings of a bright future.
Mallane's FS (I really like Dear Evan Hansen for him; choreographers are listed as Cindy Stuart & Derrick Delmore): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ItRqf0KvQbU

I thought Hitonari Tani came across as really loving skating. He was going for it in the free. Lots of attack. He’s 15 and has much to work on. Hadn’t seen him before, but I’ll be following him.
FS (he kept his FS music to Christopher Tin from 2026 Nationals, choreo. by Lori Nichol): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbN4r159wI8

9 Louis MALLANE USA 190.48 9 (64.28) 7 (126.20)
15 Hitonari TANI USA 167.68 16 (52.05) 11 (115.63)
 
Tani was quoted on the JGP broadcast by Mark as having memorized every performance of Yuzuru Hanyu

I can kind of see the inspiration in his programs, esp when he broke out the spread eagle/hydroblade choreo sequence
 
Jason at Sun Valley on Ice (Sept. 5, 2026)

Spiegel Im Spiegel

Friend Like Me
 
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A Chinese reporter interviewed several skaters at the CS Kinoshita Group Cup.

I summarized those for Lucius and Jacob on my X account using AI translation, and I leave here something that might be interesting to note:

Lucius (after his SP):

- The choice of music for the SP was made by the choreographer, Lori. He provided her with his personal preferences and suggestions for suitable music genres. Lucius fully trusts the choreographer’s professional judgement.

- He believes that the public has already fully recognized his jumping ability, and that his current main weaknesses and points of criticism lie in his skating skills. He does not want to be known solely for his jumping ability, but rather hopes to improve the quality of his skating comprehensively, as he derives more enjoyment from skating than from jumping.

- He is committed to significantly enhancing his skating technique and artistic expression while maintaining a competitive edge in jumps.

Source (in Chinese): https://www.xiaohongshu.com/explore...d0thlaXSItcP50hCClMwgs=&xsec_source=app_share


Jacob (after his FS):

- Competing the full program in Japan held special significance. The support from the live audience provided extra motivation and helped him to successfully finish the competition, even though he wasn’t physically 100%.

- (On quads): Although the technique is not yet fully mature, he will continue to include the quadruple jump in his program throughout the season. The goal is to develop a sense of timing under high-pressure conditions and gain competitive experience. During a morning practice session, he successfully landed two almost clean quad jumps.

- Jacob plans to train with Rio Nakata and other MF Academy team members for several days while in Japan. 😊

Source (in Chinese): https://www.xiaohongshu.com/explore..._5y-rYLNCkwohL0jRm7xPA=&xsec_source=app_share
 
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Jacob Sanchez also surprised me with somewhat weak skates. His skating skills and edges are devine. Beautiful spins. Love watching him so much. Please get that quad, because I think the judges like him a lot and want to give him the scores too. But he can’t pop jumps and have messy landings with no quad. He has a very novel entrance to his quad salchow….hmmm. I absolutely love his short program. Classical music suits him well. Not on the bandwagon for his free (yet). I don’t love super powerful, dark music on him. He is so charming and does lighter, charming fare better that utilizes his charisma. He has a smile that lights up the place.
Other than going for the quads in both programs when he doesn't have a consistent clean one in practice, I didn't really find Jacob's skates that surprising, especially this early in the season. It's not like he's ordinarily a consistent, clean skater.

I also prefer his short to his long, though I'm not sure it's because of the music. I generally prefer SPs to LPs. Plus, at this point, he seems more comfortable with the SP. He didn't seem that connected with the long program music yet even though I'm willing to bet that he was more excited about his LP music selection than his SP program selection. I did like the slide into the spin in the LP and I do think that the program has potential once he has spent more time with it.

Lucas Broussard come back :mitchell: :soapbox: (I really miss him).
I was enjoying the clips Lucas was posting and would love for him to come back. But, I am seriously doubting that he is going to compete this season since he has yet to compete or announce a competition and school is about to start for him. If he was going to compete this season, I would think that he would have done a competition already, even if he isn't yet back to the shape he was in.
 
I was enjoying the clips Lucas was posting and would love for him to come back. But, I am seriously doubting that he is going to compete this season since he has yet to compete or announce a competition and school is about to start for him. If he was going to compete this season, I would think that he would have done a competition already, even if he isn't yet back to the shape he was in.
Impossible to predict. I thought Elyce Lin-Gracey wasn't competing this season since she hasn't done any NQS comps this summer nor have there been any program announcements yet there she was, this morning, on the Nepela Memorial entry list! We may see Lucas on an int'l comp entry list yet.
 
Impossible to predict. I thought Elyce Lin-Gracey wasn't competing this season since she hasn't done any NQS comps this summer nor have there been any program announcements yet there she was, this morning, on the Nepela Memorial entry list! We may see Lucas on an int'l comp entry list yet.
Yes, it is impossible to predict and I'm not saying it's impossible. It just increasingly unlikely. If you're starting a demanding college program and missed all of last season, I think you would have done an NQS by now.

BTW, Elyce announced her SP last month. Amber choreographed it:


ETA: @spin2win and I were posting at the same time.
 
Jason's fan club in Japan held a Q&A session with him again while he was in Yokohama, Japan, for the Friends on Ice show.

During the session, Jason clearly stated that he would be competing in Skate America and the NHK Trophy.
"I'm very excited to train for the Grand Prix, and I am very excited to compete at Skate America and the NHK."

He also fell in love with soup dumplings in China. 😂

His programs were not finalized yet, as his team was still working on copyright clearance for the music he wants to use (at least, that was the case when he did this Q and A). I hope he gets the clearance soon!

 
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Jason's fan club in Japan held a Q&A session with him again while he was in Yokohama, Japan, for the Friends on Ice show.

During the session, Jason clearly stated that he would be competing in Skate America and the NHK Trophy.
"I'm very excited to train for the Grand Prix, and I am very excited to compete at Skate America and the NHK."
music to my ears. thank you
 
Jacob's post after training with the MF Academy group in Japan:
 

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