True Crime thread / for Adults only

@chantilly I think you meant to post in this thread, not in an old GSD thread:
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Yesh the Clancy case is beyond heartbreaking. I haven't looked at all the transcripts, but it does seem like she consistently reached out for help that was either inadequate or not delivered.
I'm not sure why they left her alone with the kids or didn't have someone else take care of them. But mental health especially around extreme PPD is really devoid of enough research, resources or support.
Those trolls online trying to build some horrible conspiracy theory involving her husband and his new wife are seriously the dregs of human excrement.
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Today's update:
www.cbsnews.com

Lindsay Clancy murder trial jury leaves without verdict, defense attorney says juror "spurned the instructions"

A sixth day of jury deliberations in Lindsay Clancy's Massachusetts murder trial ended Thursday without a verdict.
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A sixth day of jury deliberations in Lindsay Clancy's Massachusetts murder trial ended Thursday without a verdict. Following an animated sidebar late in the day, defense attorney Kevin Reddington unsuccessfully asked for Judge William Sullivan to remove a juror because he claimed they "spurned the instructions" of the court.
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As he addressed the judge, Reddington referenced a note from the jury foreperson that claimed, in Reddington's words, one juror "refuses to listen to the law." He motioned for that juror to be dismissed.
"If we come back in a half hour with a mistrial because of a juror that has just spurned the instructions of this court, it's a shame. It's a real shame," Reddington said. "And that's why I object to the court's ruling. I request that we have further inquiry. My motion is to remove this juror that refuses to listen to your instruction on reasonable doubt."
The prosecution argued that there is no way to determine which jurors are correct and what is happening in the private deliberations. "I think what Your Honor has done by asking each juror if they're able to follow the law, and then giving a general instruction on reasonable doubt is appropriate," prosecutor Jennifer Sprague said.
Sullivan ruled that he would not be removing the juror. "I don't feel that it is proper for me to side with one side or the other of the deliberations. I don't feel it's appropriate for me to say I agree with one juror or the 11."
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If she is already in a psychiatric facility, why not leave her there until the doctors can determine when she is well? Assuming, she gets the proper care there etc.

Although on the other hand, where is the justice for the 3 innocents? and the husband too..........it is a very sad and difficult case.
 
Conviction in the murder of Laura Miller. Just one of the many murders associated with the “Texas killing fields”. Her father spent 42 years seeking justice for his daughter including talking several times to one of her suspected murderers. There is video of the two which was used in the trial.

abcnews.com

Man sentenced to 20 years over a 'Texas Killing Fields' case, decades after dozens of bodies found

A man convicted over a “Texas Killing Fields” death has been sentenced by a jury to 20 years in prison
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Mistrial seems like the correct outcome for the Clancy trial, as frustrating as it is for everyone.

The jury's notes, which indicated an 11-1 split and accused one juror of not following the law or instructions, were highly, highly inappropriate, as was Clancy's attorney asking for the juror to be removed.

I've been the one holdout juror not willing to acquit in a somewhat similar case where the facts were clear but the intent / state of mind was the question. I am glad that the judge stood up for that person's rights and for the integrity of the jury process.

This, of course, assumes the person came to his beliefs honestly and isn't ready to cash in on it.
 
Buzz said:
Conviction in the murder of Laura Miller. Just one of the many murders associated with the “Texas killing fields”. Her father spent 42 years seeking justice for his daughter including talking several times to one of her suspected murderers. There is video of the two which was used in the trial.
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This doesn't have to do with anything specific, but I used to live in Clear Lake, which is right around this area. Of course I didn't learn it was a serial killer corridor until after I had already moved away. The area is now completely built up with housing developments and strip malls so it's nothing like it was in the 80s. The new serial killings in Houston might have something to do with people getting dumped into bayous.
 
Buzz said:
Gheez! WHY are there so many of these idiots who prefer murder over divorce?!
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In his case, he was making 200k/year at his fil's company. If he dumped the wife the fil would probably dump him right back. If he had gotten away with the murder, he'd probably be able to keep the job AND eventually marry the side piece.
 
ilovepaydays said:
True, but those text messages with his mistress are WILD.

I feel so awful for their children.
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I haven’t watched this trial but I can imagine it is horrifying 😔😢. People serving on a jury have a different responsibility then the general public of course.
 
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On 9 September, the Michigan supreme court ruled that the state’s Sex Offender Registration Act (Sora) cannot be applied retroactively to cases involving offenses committed before the law’s relevant date. Michigan’s state police, as a result, removed more than 20,000 people whose offenses occurred before 1 July 2011 from the agency’s online sex offender database
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www.theguardian.com

Michigan state police rule out claim that Larry Nassar was removed from sex offender registry

Eaton county prosecuting attorney’s office had said court ruling forced removal of Nassar’s name – but he wasn’t on list because he was imprisoned out of state
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ilovepaydays said:
UPDATE: John-Paul Miller has now been indicted for federal charges of cyberstalking Mica and giving false statements to federal investigators.

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ilovepaydays said:
UPDATE: For those that have Netflix, there’s a new docuseries called “Death of the Pastor’s Wife” about what happened with Mica Miller and her relationship with John-Paul.

I highly recommend watching it if you’re interested in how these kind of religious systems can end up going horrifically wrong. Normally, I would about new docuseries in the TV thread, but this is a pretty dark topic.😔 And this case has been discussed earlier in this thread.
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Update on United States vs. John Paul Miller: A sixth continuance has been granted and the trial is now scheduled for January 2027.
 
I heard the botch up of the woman getting the DP on TN was due to a problem in the tubing or veins and the drug went into her body instead of just a vein? IN any event, what a mess.

Too bad she didn't know Trump, she could have been given a pardon and then done whatever she wanted.
 
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