The Race for the 2020 POTUS elections

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Fabrichnova

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Not necessarily. Pick the wrong nominee and we are doomed.

There's quite a world of difference between "has a shot" and "doomed."

If a candidate has enough votes to win the nomination, they have a shot at the GE. I'm not being overly clever, I'm just acknowledging the obvious.
 

Reuven

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3.It is arrogant to announce your VP before you are the nominee.
I seem to recall Ted Cruz did that. How'd that work out for him?
As my dad has stated recently, "If Donald Trump can be president, hell I can be elected president".
We have to rethink that old saying, "America is a place where anyone can grow up to be president."
 

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Pete Buttigieg was on The View today for the second time in a couple months. I don't know how far he'll make it in his run, but I enjoy hearing what he has to say. The IndyStar did a pro and con look of what he accomplished during his time in office and overall seemed to like what they found.

*** Pete Buttigieg says he’s mayor of a turnaround city. Here’s how that claim stands up.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news...outh-bend-indiana-turnaround-city/3165477002/
Stacey Odom said she approached the mayor after learning of preliminary plans to redevelop her neighborhood, a historically black area called LaSalle Park, on the city's west side. She said she told Buttigieg the city should help the people currently living there keep their homes.

The redevelopment plans, which she characterized as not having progressed very far, were abandoned. She asked the mayor for $300,000 for a grant program to help homeowners with repairs. He countered, she said, with $650,000.

Odom, whose family has lived in the neighborhood for four generations, was spurred to found a community development corporation that connects area homeowners with resources to help keep them in place. She has an aggressive goal of her own: to repair 60 homes in two west-side neighborhoods and build another 28.

"That’s the kind of person you want in office," she said. "Someone who is looking at your best interests. And if they’re not (at first), if you go to them and tell them what your interests are, then they will take your concerns and make them their concerns."

Buttigieg said the city has decided to budget $1 million annually for such programs.
The city's nine-member City Council has supported Buttigieg, voting time and again for the incentives to attract downtown redevelopment. The local brewery gave that commitment a nod with the name of a craft brew — 9 Aye IPA. Even the lone Republican, Jake Teshka, finds little room to criticize the mayor.

"I think if you ask not just me, but a lot of Republicans in South Bend, they'd have to admit that Pete has done a good job in a lot of ways," Teshka said. "He’s done a great job of attracting new and exciting economic development opportunities. He’s got an eye for attracting young, innovative talent to the city and really breathing new life into an administration that could have been described before as old and maybe not so forward thinking."
 

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But now almost all liberals are saying if a government has to give huge tax cuts to business to attract them it’s not worth it!! Liberals hate Wisconsin and Foxconn and New York and Amazon
 

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But now almost all liberals are saying if a government has to give huge tax cuts to business to attract them it’s not worth it!! Liberals hate Wisconsin and Foxconn and New York and Amazon
Yes, many people are opposed to tax incentives for BIG businesses, because they don't need them to be viable. However, most people support tax incentives and investments to support local business.
 

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I seem to recall Ted Cruz did that. How'd that work out for him?
We have to rethink that old saying, "America is a place where anyone can grow up to be president."

I did mention Ted Cruz in my post, but he did it toward the end, not the Start of his campaign.

I am done with Biden and his race based choice of a VP.
 

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I did mention Ted Cruz in my post, but he did it toward the end, not the Start of his campaign.

I am done with Biden and his race based choice of a VP.

I think whomever ends up with the Democratic nomination will select their running-mate based on race or sex. I don't think they will have much of a choice.

Corey Booker has already emphatically stated that given the nomination, his running mate will be a woman so have you given up on him, too?
 

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I think whomever ends up with the Democratic nomination will select their running-mate based on race or sex. I don't think they will have much of a choice.

Corey Booker has already emphatically stated that given the nomination, his running mate will be a woman so have you given up on him, too?

Rachel asked him directly if he would choose a woman as his VP. He had to answer it. It was not a commitment or announcement. Biden is announcing from the very start, and not because someone is asking him.

The nominees do select VPs to pull in some votes from certain regions, so there is always some calculation, but it is arrogant to make it so obviously race and gender based, and not on ability.

The big concern is that Biden will be 78 if he is elected Potus. At that age anything can happen (Sanders too). When McCain picked Palin there were similar concerns. A VP has to be able to step in as POTUS, if needed.
 
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Peaches LaTour

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Rachel asked him directly if he would choose a woman as his VP. He had to answer it. It was not a commitment or announcement. Biden is announcing from the very start, and not because someone is asking him.

The nominees do select VPs to pull in some votes from certain regions, so there is always some calculation, but it is arrogant to make it so obviously race and gender based, and not on ability.

The big concern is that Biden will be 78 if he is elected Potus. At that age anything can happen (Sanders too). When McCain picked Palin there were similar concerns. A VP has to be able to step in as POTUS, if needed.

Well when he said a running mate of his would definitely be a woman, it sounded like an announcement & commitment to me.
 

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Did Amy Klobuchar read my post about her hair style? LOL

She has swept her hair back so I can see Both her eyes. It is good that she is not hiding a part of her face. :)
 

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Pete Buttigieg was on The View today for the second time in a couple months. I don't know how far he'll make it in his run, but I enjoy hearing what he has to say. The IndyStar did a pro and con look of what he accomplished during his time in office and overall seemed to like what they found.

I'm very impressed with Buttigieg. He is young, so I don't have much hope this time around for his candidacy, but if he continues impressing, he very well could rise high as a gay man in the next twenty or thirty years. It's interesting how I've seen the reaction on FB to him. Especially since Buttigieg has been very open about his Christian faith. Some of my friends (loosely, it's hard to actually consider a die-hard Trump supporter as a friend) said that they could never vote for a gay person due to their 'faith'. And yet they don't see the blatant hypocrisy that their 'faith' compels them to support a pathological liar, a thief, a serial adulterer, and overall just a pathetic excuse for a human being. I think Pete will change many opinions in the next decade/s.
 

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Some of my friends (loosely, it's hard to actually consider a die-hard Trump supporter as a friend) said that they could never vote for a gay person due to their 'faith'. And yet they don't see the blatant hypocrisy that their 'faith' compels them to support a pathological liar, a thief, a serial adulterer, and overall just a pathetic excuse for a human being.

Not only that but faith also teaches tolerance. At least, mine does.


Buttigieg is looking to double the size of his campaign https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/24/politics/pete-buttigieg-south-carolina-campaign-trip/index.html
 

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Barr's decision re: Trump makes it all the more crucial that appropriate candidates are chosen; and that voters exercise their rights.
 

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Technically, there's a connection to 2020 since Avenatti claimed he'd run in 2020 if Trump ran again. In any case, I'm not really surprised. like I said a while ago, he was making too much of a splash for my taste.

I never liked Avenatti but couldn’t put my finger on the reason, other than that he was too showy for my taste. Stormy posted that she had discontinued his services a month earlier because he had been dishonest with her.

Anyway, now he won’t be able to run, and that is good. There are too many candidates already.
 

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Udall won't run for re-election. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/25/new...all-will-not-run-for-re-election-in-2020.html

The two-term senator said in a statement that although he is confident he could win a third term, he will not run again next year because "the worst thing anyone in public office can do is believe the office belongs to them, rather than to the people they represent."

Yes, fantastic, I applaud that. But maybe not during an election when it's crucial that Democrats don't lose any more seats in the Senate in case Trump wins another term?
 

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How about Michael Avenatti? He expressed an interest, seems sharper than most progressive candidates, and had 100+ appearances on CNN/MSNBC where he was held in high esteem.

He was known on the right as the creepy porn lawyer.
 

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When there get to be this many candidates, it feels like Project Runway or American Idol.

Which one would you vote off this month?

For me, I am ready to do without Howard Schultz and Tulsi Gabbard, but since Howard is threatening a third party run, I wonder whether it is better to let him get destroyed in a debate before cutting him loose. So for this month Tulsi.
 

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Dorispulaski, good idea.

Schultz was never on my list but if he helps Split the republican votes, I am all for him to run as independent.

I wouldn’t wait for a month to vote off someone. There are 14 candidates and we don’t have that many months before the democratic convention (unless you meant vote off two per month, then it would take just 7 months, that is around October 2019).

Voting off someone once a week may not work, because not much is happening right now.

In any case I have voted off Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren so far.

When Joe Biden announces his candidacy (expected in April) I will vote him off.

That leaves 11 candidates. Still a very large number. I want to get it down to six, which would be more manageable.
 
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