The Race for the 2020 POTUS elections

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Artistic Skaters

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Both Steyer and Bloomberg are running well made commercials that communicate quite a bit of positive information in a minute or less. They are on the air constantly where I live.

On another note, Yang did not submit the correct documentation to get on the ballot in OH, so he is going to end up being a write-in for the primary.
 

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Both Steyer and Bloomberg are running well made commercials that communicate quite a bit of positive information in a minute or less. They are on the air constantly where I live.
Exactly-- I didn't bother to get to know Steyer for various reasons, but his commercial was everywhere this weekend during completely different types of programming. Our PVR bit the dust. I hope he has the same luck with an actual voter.
 

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Steyer apparently scores double digits in Nevada as well and makes the debate.

Nothing like being able to buy your way in.

I don't expect Steyer to get much further, but Bloomberg has a strong strategy. He's positioning himself as the alternative after the first four contests don't sort things out. He's got the moderate vs the crazy leftwinger argument against Warren and/or Sanders, and the experience/competence argument against Buttigieg. I don't know what he uses against Biden though.

Oh yeah, and the man argument against Klobuchar should she make a run in Iowa.
 

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Bloomberg has a strong strategy. He's positioning himself as the alternative after the first four contests don't sort things out. He's got the moderate vs the crazy leftwinger argument against Warren and/or Sanders, and the experience/competence argument against Buttigieg. I don't know what he uses against Biden though.
That he's too young? :unsure:
 

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I'm curious about those who support Sanders over Warren. To me they're both wacky, but Warren's wack is supported by very detailed plans with more nuance.
To this Canadian they are not wacky at all, they make good sound sense - though I admit I really can't stand Sanders. He's a bloward and IMO has a strong streak of misogyny.

However, I can't see either of them realizing their vision in the contemporary USA. I am not sure they can even achieve the level of 'socialism' they perceive Canada to have :D. Free university? Dream on.
 
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So ... Taiwan is about to re-elect Tsai Ing Wen to a second term of presidency. Tsai is a female, single, makes no bones about being tough as nails. Taiwan is an extremely conservative patriarchal society. Why is it that it's elected a female president and the U.S. populace still has such a phobia about female candidates being "unlikable"?
 

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Taiwan is an extremely conservative patriarchal society. Why is it that it's elected a female president and the U.S. populace still has such a phobia about female candidates being "unlikable"?
One possibility is that the American President, aka The Leader of the Free World, is seen as much more important than leaders of small countries. So it's okay for countries like Pakistan or Taiwan to elect a female leader, because they are not so important on the world stage (I'll note that I entirely disagree with this and think it is extremely important to have women leaders on the world strange). But the status and stature of POTUS is such that a man is still seen as more fitting for the post. A sentiment I hope to see changing in my lifetime (am 61).
 

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Elizabeth Warren's disability plan gets high marks from those involved in disability policy issues:


But the disability community has responded more enthusiastically to Ms. Warren’s plan than to any other so far.

“It is the most comprehensive thing I have seen in my 20 years of looking at these things,” said Jason Dorwart, a theater professor at Oberlin College who is quadriplegic.

The article says that 1 in 4 Americans has a disability that impacts major life activities. (See document from CDC.) I didn't realize the number was that high.
 

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I think we can all use some PI humor today, so....

Why Pete Buttigieg Has Made Religion Central to His Campaign
And on a serious note, this is one reason that Pete has in fact attracted my attention. I am so so so so tired of Christianity being hijacked by those who call themselves evangelicals, who claim to know the meaning of Bible verses but wouldn't know a Novum Testamentum Graece if it hit them in the posterior, and whose values seem completely antithetical to the faith I follow.

I am shocked that Pete is the one that broke from the pack to even still be talked about this close to the primaries. For me, at least, being a proud and out member of the Religious Left is an important reason why. 👍
 

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And on a serious note, this is one reason that Pete has in fact attracted my attention. I am so so so so tired of Christianity being hijacked by those who call themselves evangelicals, who claim to know the meaning of Bible verses but wouldn't know a Novum Testamentum Graece if it hit them in the posterior, and whose values seem completely antithetical to the faith I follow.
There is a growing movement to reclaim the label of Christianity from the (usually white) evangelicals who have a very narrow and IMO perverted interpretation of Christianity that completely ignores some of the key messages of Jesus, such as caring for the poor, the sick, etc. See the Rev. Dr. William J. Barber and his poor people's campaign as an example. There is also a rebellion among younger evangelicals because of Republican denial of climate change.
 

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There is a growing movement to reclaim the label of Christianity from the (usually white) evangelicals who have a very narrow and IMO perverted interpretation of Christianity that completely ignores some of the key messages of Jesus, such as caring for the poor, the sick, etc. See the Rev. Dr. William J. Barber and his poor people's campaign as an example. There is also a rebellion among younger evangelicals because of Republican denial of climate change.
I read about what the young evangelicals who want to do something about climate change were proposing and it was meaningless! They didn’t even support cap and trade not to mention banning all sales of new entirely combustion engine cars or banning coal mining! It’s like they want the evangelical leaders to say they believe in it and US must do something but don’t propose anything. That’s only based on one NYT article recently published. Maybe they moved to having real proposals.

I always think the most important thing about Jesus is that he was the son of God and he died for sins of the people. And if bible is the word of God Jesus was the way to lead people to the word of God. That seems to be number one. Not sure Christianity is only about charitable acts
 

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Here are the two most important things direct from the Bible and Jesus.

In Mark, when asked "which is the great commandment in the law?", the Greek New Testament reports that Jesus answered, "Hear, O Israel! The Lord Our God, The Lord is One; Thou shalt love thy Lord, thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind",[2] before also referring to a second commandment, "And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
You don’t see much neighborly love emanating from Christians these days.
 
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I think it is good when a candidate talks about their own beliefs. One of the things that gave me most confidence in Hillary Clinton was her discussion of her faith and her invocation of the Methodist saying,
“Do all the good you can, by all the means you can, in all the ways you can, in all the places you can, at all the times you can, to all the people you can, as long as ever you can.”

What I do not want is a president who is going to tell other people what their religion should be. If Christians want to have a dialogue about what the bible means that's one thing, but that doesn't belong in politics, and we don't need elected officials to tell others their religious beliefs are wrong.
 

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Here are the two most important things direct from the Bible and Jesus.
In Mark, when asked "which is the great commandment in the law?", the Greek New Testament reports that Jesus answered, "Hear, O Israel! The Lord Our God, The Lord is One; Thou shalt love thy Lord, thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind",[2] before also referring to a second commandment, "And the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself."
You don’t see much neighborly love emanating from Christians these days.
It was Rabbi Hillel in the 1st century C.E. who said to someone who challenged him to recite the Torah whilst standing on one leg, “That which is hateful to you, do not do to others. The rest is commentary. Go and study."
 

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Interestingly, The New York Times has 2 separate opinion pieces today that both argue, essentially, that the Democratic party needs to think bigger & bolder in terms of what policy ideas it pursues and how it markets them, so to speak:


FDR Got It. Most Democrats Don't.


Progressives Are the Real Pragmatists
 

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^^I agree with that.

Reading the news sites over the weekend, the polls in the first states are close and opinions vary widely as to what might happen. I think the nomination is up for grabs but the first few contests will sort things out.

One thing I noticed over the weekend was Joe Biden using the terminology "climate emergency" which I think is a really positive thing that shows how the party has moved on this issue.
 

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Warren people telling press sanders told her a woman can’t be elected president!!!!!

And it starts, the democratic establishment is scared and now they are creating a narrative to divide. So much for UNITY.

The article contradicts itself. NY Times article stated something else a year ago and now "Warren" people are saying something else. Why bring it up now if it did happen? And why would anymore remain friends with someone who told them they couldn't be president because of their gender or race.

This is disappointing from the Warren campaign.

Bernie's poll numbers are seriously a threat to the DNC and the Democratic establishment are pulling out all the stops.
 
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And it starts, the democratic establishment is scaredBernie's poll numbers are seriously a threat to the DNC and the Democratic establishment are pulling out all the stops.
I agree.

There was an article out today that if Sanders takes the lead, the DNC will coalesce around an anyone-but-Sanders. The only way a candidacy like Bloomberg’s makes sense is to shoot for a contested convention, then hope the superdelegates hand him the nomination over someone like Sanders. I think that is such a foolish plan. If superdelegates override the will of Dem primary voters, Trump is guaranteed to win in November.
Establishment Democrats believe that they still have a good chance to stop Bernie even if he does win Iowa. They say the party might come together under an Anybody But Bernie candidate. They also point out that under Silver’s model scenario where Bernie wins Iowa, there would be a decent chance that no one would come to the convention with a majority of delegates. In that event, on the second ballot, a group of party elders, or superdelegates, would be allowed to vote, and Bernie would likely be their last choice.


Let the voters decide and stop trying to manipulate the system.
 

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I agree.

There was an article out today that if Sanders takes the lead, the DNC will coalesce around an anyone-but-Sanders. The only way a candidacy like Bloomberg’s makes sense is to shoot for a contested convention, then hope the superdelegates hand him the nomination over someone like Sanders. I think that is such a foolish plan. If superdelegates override the will of Dem primary voters, Trump is guaranteed to win in November.


Let the voters decide and stop trying to manipulate the system.

Never going to happen. Too many people have money and jobs invested in so many industries that a Sanders presidency would dismantle.
 
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