The Medical Thread: Vaccine Search / Staying Healthy / Treatments Etc

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It seems silly that anyone who pays any attention to what's going on in other countries would be surprised by this, as it's not like Canada is the first country to say this. I guess I shouldn't assume the worst until we see what they have to say, but if we have vaccines go to waste after spending 5 or 6 weeks having to sit on our hands waiting for vaccines to arrive, it just seems like the ultimate in incompetence.



I'd also be happy to take it. But I think there are a lot of people who need it more than me, so hopefully we can find ways to get it to them. To be fair, I haven't seen anything about Canadians avoiding AZ, since it hasn't been offered to anyone yet. But it won't surprise me if those stories do come out in a couple of weeks.
The problem was Health Canada approved it for over 65 and NACI rarely goes against Health Canada. So it was a surprise for sure.

It will all come down to public health. I don’t think NS will let it expire.
 

Miezekatze

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France has now approved AstraZeneca for people over 65 based on the newest studies from Great Britain and Germany is expected to do the same in the next days according to our health minister (which probably means "next weeks" :rolleyes: ).

Also the time between doses in Germany will be expanded like in the UK.

I hope that will speed up things finally!
 

MsZem

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Senegal and Rwanda got their first vaccine shipments today! Mostly AstraZeneca, but Rwanda is also getting some Pfizer doses.

Let's hope more countries reach this level of coverage soon:
 

Aceon6

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Teachers and school staff will be eligible to sign up in Massachusetts starting March 11th. They will join the pool of unvaccinated people 65+ and those with 2+ qualifying medical conditions. The estimate is about 800,000 people vying for the 75,000 slots each week until the state can get a bigger allocation of vaccine.

While I‘m really happy that teachers have been moved up, folks are still struggling to secure appointments including a sizable chunk of the over 75s who can’t get to the mega sites. Maybe the solution is to set up in the schools and push more vaccine into the community.
 

MsZem

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This is the right thing to do. I hope we'll have surplus vaccines* and will be able to help more people out.
* Because Moderna will deliver the full original order, not because people will choose not to get vaccinated!
 
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How scientists see the future of CV19 unfolding:

I think the vaccine will only lead to a new normal. Annual flu and cornoviruses vaccines, masking during outbreaks, etc. I dont see us returning to summer 2019 ever.
 

Miezekatze

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I don't see the problem with the ***** not going away, I never expected this.

I think scientists strongly overestimate how much people will care about the ***** once it's endemic.

It will just be a yearly ***** that might cause illness and deaths and most people will care about it about as much as about the flu, which at least here is not at all, which will make strict restrictions except for some mask wearing pretty much impossible. The support for restrictions is dwindling already now when we're not even at the point were everybody can get vaccinated.

Maybe it will actually improve the amount of people who will be willing to get vaccinated against both the flu and *********-19.

But personally I expect that at least here in Germany it will only take 2 or 3 years until the main challenge will be to get enough people to get vaccinated.
 

Miezekatze

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Btw in Tirole, Austria there's a region where the South African variant is very common. They are now going to use this as a pilot scheme. This region gets 100000 Pfizer doses and it will be offered to the whole population there from age 16 upwards in March. Scientists are going to monitor this. That might give more information about how well the Pfizer vaccine helps against this mutation.

Btw "very common" means it's 5% of the infections there, which is less than some weeks ago. So they already managed to suppress spread of this mutation quite well.
 

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One of the Infectious Disease Specialists was on the news the other day in Canada and said that he expects that we will need a 2-3 years of booster shots and after that we will have a good level of immunity to CV and the vaccine will become a routine childhood vaccination.

First time I heard that POV and thought it was an interesting take on it.
 

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I spoke with my favorite grocery cashier today. Her family has been hit especially hard with about a quarter of her extended group needing hospitalization. She said that all the adults have been able to get vaccinated thanks to an outreach program through a hospital/Latinx program. She is SO happy!
 

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As expected, the 60-69 age group in NB is noticing that they are last on the list for the vaccine, after the teachers and 16-24 year old students.
Here we go. AstraZeneca to go to 50-64 year-olds.

DH is eligible but I'm not.

Hope we can get an appointment for him.


Still no word in NB about using AstraZeneca. They will decide next Tuesday if they will stretch out the time between doses.
 

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One of the Infectious Disease Specialists was on the news the other day in Canada and said that he expects that we will need a 2-3 years of booster shots and after that we will have a good level of immunity to CV and the vaccine will become a routine childhood vaccination.

First time I heard that POV and thought it was an interesting take on it.
Do you have a link? I always like hearing from the specialists.
 

MsZem

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Uganda, Malawi, Mali, The Philippines and Moldova have all received their first vaccine deliveries :cheer2:

ETA: Now it's like the Olympic parade of nations... São Tomé and Príncipe got some vaccines today, too :)

Nigeria and Rwanda, which got their first shipments earlier this week, have now started their vaccine drives:

This, from the second article, is beautiful:
“This means that I will die when God wants because the ******** cannot kill me now,” 90-year-old Stephanie Nyirankuriza said, leaning on a walking stick after her shot at a health centre just east of the capital Kigali.
 
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MsZem

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Liberia, Fiji and Djibouti join the list of countries that have received vaccine shipments :)

Also, the Dalai Lama has received his first dose:
 
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MsZem

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Ethiopia, The Maldives, Nepal and Sri Lanka!
I wonder how they decide on the order of countries to which they ship.
 

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