The Biden-Harris Administration

Judy

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I believe this is some of the story. I also think that applying a free-market strategy to the news media does not do a good job to encourage accurate news reporting.

ETA - Also agree that Biden is more boring than not only R presidents, but former D presidents as well. Bush presided over 9/11, the commencement of the 2 wars, torture, etc., Trump - no further explanation, but there were all those salacious sex scandals during the Clinton years, and Obama was scandal free, but due to the color of his skin, was subject to media coverage because the 1st Black President and its backlash among the crazies was going to be a novel reporting experience for them. Plenty of clickbait. For the 1st time since widespread computer usage, we have a president that is less of a lightning rod and more boring than anyone since someone like Bush 41, when people relied on (1) the 3 networks, with their 30 minute programs at 630 or special news breaks, (2) WTBS (more entertainment than news though IIRC), (3) newspapers, (4) PBS and their news hour, (5) CNN and C-Span - and the novelty of news 24 hour / day; (6) and last but not least, the kooks on the radio who were just getting started in forming opinions at the national level. The average citizen could count on one hand the source of their news
Seriously appreciate the "boring" vs the chaos.
 

ballettmaus

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And why wasn’t he ready to do this 6 months ago when these voter suppression bills were being written and when the Texas abortion bill was also being worked on ??
I think Biden has a really hard time accepting that the Republicans from the days when he was in the Senate - those you can reason and work and struck a compromise with - are truly gone. (A part of me doesn't fault him for that as I think believing in the good of people is in his nature. The other part of me thinks that it's so obvious and we're wasting time).

The energization of the base should not be solely dependent on Republican threats but should also flow naturally from Democratic action and successes.

I never lose sight of the former (the threat of the alternative) but I also WILL NOT praise or excuse the absence of the latter (action in the form of passed legislation) and I won’t be criticizing any other Dems who have an issue with it.
The fact that Republicans support fascism shouldn't be an excuse for Democrats to not do anything anymore and take votes for granted. At the same time, Democrats not doing anything shouldn't be an excuse to not go vote. Fortunately for us, Democrats don't seem to intend to not to anything anymore and even if they didn't push for a filibuster reform, I think voters should still be sufficiently energized to vote. One reason should be a desire to prevent fascism, another should be the realization that Republians will obstruct absolutely everything should they get a majority in either chamber and another the other should be voting in more Democrats who support things like reforming the filibuster.
 

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I think Biden has a really hard time accepting that the Republicans from the days when he was in the Senate - those you can reason and work and struck a compromise with - are truly gone. (A part of me doesn't fault him for that as I think believing in the good of people is in his nature. The other part of me thinks that it's so obvious and we're wasting time).
They keep talking about all the unity after 9/11. Times are different. I bet if there was a pan***ic back then, the whole country would have been rallying around wearing masks and getting vaccinated. Other countries would have followed our lead, and 500K fewer people would have died.
 

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Interesting WaPo opinion piece today from Perry Bacon Jr. He argues that, far from being chastened by the events of Jan 6, the Republican party has been further emboldened and radicalized. The Biden administration and Democratic establishment have been slow to see the situation for what it is and to respond appropriately.


"Republican radicalization needs to be met with a proportionate Democratic response. And we just aren’t seeing that response. There are a lot of signs that Democrats don’t fully grasp the extent of the GOP’s radicalization or accept that it must be addressed aggressively. Many in the party remain cautious, incrementalist and obsessed with bipartisanship. It’s one thing for West Virginia’s Sen. Joe Manchin III, in a state that Trump won by 39 percentage points in 2020, to defend the filibuster, but Sen. Christopher A. Coons in Delaware, where Biden won by 19 points, is also bristling at the idea of changing the rules."
 

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I think Biden has a really hard time accepting that the Republicans from the days when he was in the Senate - those you can reason and work and struck a compromise with - are truly gone. (A part of me doesn't fault him for that as I think believing in the good of people is in his nature. The other part of me thinks that it's so obvious and we're wasting time).
I think it was important to try. Okay, so now we've tried... time to move on.


Btw, I think the filibuster is the most undemocratic thing ever. I get having some types of votes needed a super-majority and not a simple majority. But this is about voting. It's about cutting off debate. I think certain bills should be brought to the floor even if a simple majority might not agree -- just to have the debate. The idea that you need 60 votes to even debate a bill is just about cutting off debate and not about bi-partisanship at all.
 

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How do they even know? Most of the Republican establishment instead of trying to force Romney or kasich campaign against trump in the primary publicly supported Biden. That allowed Trump to get the Republican nomination again. So it’s hard to say republicans have been radicalized when most establishment supported Biden and they gave no challenge to Trump at all. And they may give him the nomination again in 2024

did they think mark Sanford, William weld and joe Walsh were good primary opponents? Lol of course not. They had no money. All the big Republican money was going to Biden
 
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This sounds like a good bill, and since Manchin supports it, Dems could pass it.

But only if they remove the filibuster to do so.

So is this just playacting by Manchin to try to fool someone? into thinking he's doing something when he's not? Who would care if it can't pass? Or is he maybe willing to support a filibuster reform for this bill after it is proved Republicans won't vote for the bill?

Politics takes a lot of maneuvering. I hope it turns out that after all the playacting and maneuvering they can actually pass this.


A group of Democratic senators — including key centrist Joe Manchin III of West Virginia — is set to introduce a pared-down voting rights, campaign finance and government ethics bill Tuesday in hopes of building momentum for its passage through a closely divided Senate.

According to a summary obtained by The Washington Post, the new Freedom to Vote Act retains significant portions of the For the People Act, Democrats’ marquee voting legislation that passed the House this year but was blocked by a Republican filibuster in June. Those include mandating national minimum standards for early voting and vote-by-mail, establishing Election Day as a national holiday, and creating new disclosure requirements for “dark money” groups that are not now required to disclose their donors.
 

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I don't know exactly where this would go, but when my cousin Lynn was here helping me put up a new curtain rod and curtains Saturday (we took turns wearing our masks because she hadn't been able to get vaccinated yet because she had to make sure her grandson is settled in kindergarten in case she has a bad reaction; she was going to Kroger this week), she had on a t-shirt that said "Equal rights for others does not mean less rights for you. It's not Pie." I've seen the expression before. And I did not tell her that it should be "fewer" not "less". :)
 

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That is what the gymnasts said, explicitly. Alt Raisman said, basically, when an entity like Safesport, is funded by the groups it is supposed to investigate, you get a group that protects its source of money and not the athletes it is supposed to protect.

The biggest shock is how blatant the bad behavior of the FBI agents involved.

These FBI people lied to the FBI, misrepresented McKayla Maroney' s testimony, and one was even hitting up the sports groups for a job while this was going on.

The gymnasts want the FBI guys prosecuted. So do I.
 

caseyedwards

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I guess since milley is part of the Biden admin the milley story belongs here too! Cnn has almost completely abandoned the story while fox is all about the story. But they are saying if Trump ordered a seal team to kill Xi milley would have called xi and told him seal team was coming. Biden says it’s all nonsense and he is with milley and will never fire milley and supports him talking to Chinese generals even without his knowledge
 

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Gymnasts testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee. Good Lord, what a nightmare they experienced.
Why are they testifying? I read some of this .. had they requested it?

It's awful what happened. 😢
 

Artistic Skaters

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The gymnasts want the FBI guys prosecuted. So do I.
Christopher Wray did not sound like the FBI is going to pursue charges against either the FBI agents or Steve Penny and company. There was just lots of blah-blah-blah with apologies and talk about future reforms. Sally Jenkins wrote a scathing commentary challenging Merrick Garland to do something about it:
It’s time for a special prosecutor to probe this reeking, bottom-drawered, law enforcement coverup.

FBI Director Christopher A. Wray dithered on phonily Wednesday about improving “policies and procedures.” But it wasn’t the policies or procedures that failed; it was the people in charge. They failed to do their fundamental duty, perhaps intentionally. And now Attorney General Merrick Garland is failing to do his, at peril of joining the list of graying government functionaries who apparently think an agency reputation is more important than a girl’s body.
To date, there have been exactly two dutifully zealous law enforcement efforts on behalf of the gymnasts — and both of them were at the local level. If not for a Michigan State University campus police detective named Andrea Munford, Nassar would still be molesting young women. She was the one who built the case that got him arrested in December 2016 and sent to prison on the testimony of hundreds of victims, as well as 37,000 items of child pornography found on his hard drives.

This was fully a year after those FBI studs in the Indianapolis office, agents W. Jay Abbott and Michael Langeman, utterly ignored Maroney’s graphic accounts of Nassar penetrating her and lying on her while she was naked in hotel rooms in 2011. After she related her story to the FBI, she testified at Wednesday’s hearing, a male agent was silent for a minute and then said to her, “Is that all?”
 
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Christopher Wray did not sound like the FBI is going to pursue charges against either the FBI agents or Steve Penny and company. There was just lots of blah-blah-blah with apologies and talk about future reforms. Sally Jenkins wrote a scathing commentary challenging Merrick Garland to do something about it:
Between Mueller and Garland, it has become clear that the DOJ is in desperate need of progressives rather than "gentlemen". (For a lack of a better term to describe them. I'm sure they're both brilliant legal minds but they seem far too gallant and not caught up to the times we live in).
 

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That is what the gymnasts said, explicitly. Alt Raisman said, basically, when an entity like Safesport, is funded by the groups it is supposed to investigate, you get a group that protects its source of money and not the athletes it is supposed to protect.

The biggest shock is how blatant the bad behavior of the FBI agents involved.

These FBI people lied to the FBI, misrepresented McKayla Maroney' s testimony, and one was even hitting up the sports groups for a job while this was going on.

The gymnasts want the FBI guys prosecuted. So do I.
I read McKayla Maroney's testimony. She is a strong woman. Good for her. Here's a bit of it:

Maroney said she was shocked at the agent's silence and "disregard" for her trauma. The agent then broke the silence and asked, "Is that all?"

"Those words in itself was one of the worst moments in this entire process for me," she said, her voice cracking with emotion. "To have my abuse be minimized and disregarded by the people who were supposed to protect me, just to feel like my abuse was not enough. But the truth is my abuse was enough, and they wanted to cover it up. USA Gymnastics, in concert with the FBI and the Olympic Committee, were working together to conceal that Larry Nassar was a predator."
 

Judy

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I read McKayla Maroney's testimony. She is a strong woman. Good for her. Here's a bit of it:

Maroney said she was shocked at the agent's silence and "disregard" for her trauma. The agent then broke the silence and asked, "Is that all?"

"Those words in itself was one of the worst moments in this entire process for me," she said, her voice cracking with emotion. "To have my abuse be minimized and disregarded by the people who were supposed to protect me, just to feel like my abuse was not enough. But the truth is my abuse was enough, and they wanted to cover it up. USA Gymnastics, in concert with the FBI and the Olympic Committee, were working together to conceal that Larry Nassar was a predator."
Just horrific. I don't have appropriate words to describe my feelings on this.
 

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Between Mueller and Garland, it has become clear that the DOJ is in desperate need of progressives rather than "gentlemen". (For a lack of a better term to describe them. I'm sure they're both brilliant legal minds but they seem far too gallant and not caught up to the times we live in).
It was the FBI's responsibilty, not Dept of Justice, to fire their own FBI agent and they just did it recently after a Dept of Justice investigation and review.

I'm going to wait and see when it comes to Garland to see if and when he takes action with these cases. He's been in the position for months not years and there are lots of fires that need to be put out along with all the other scandalous DT leftover business. I don't know that gallantry has anything to do with it.
 
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Thread on some of what the Department of Justice has tackled this week:


Links to DOJ announcements mentioned in the thread:
 

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Biden creating the Haitian problem at the Mexican border. Previously most Haitians took boats to Florida but now they take transportation to Mexico
 

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