Positive drug test by Russian figure skater has forced a delay of Olympic team medals ceremony

[danafan]

Appeal rejected.

https://twitter.com/olyphil/status/1495064567914938374?s=21

https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/CAS_Ad_Hoc_Media_Release_Beijing_10.pdf

 

[becca]

The results are provisional because she was allowed to compete. Until a determination is made whether or not she should have been banned the ISU/IOC can't finalize the results. If she's banned then her placement would, I assume, be removed and the skaters behind her would move up a spot in the standings. Same with the TE.

Yes but the top three results are not provisional so it’s not the same thing.

 

[YourBorneo]

Yes but the top three results are not provisional so it’s not the same thing.

Except that the ISU results page has Women’s Event Results marked as provisional. It’s just a fact and it doesn’t matter who thinks what. Period.

XXIV Olympic Winter Games 2022 - Women Single Skating

results.isu.org

 

[bardtoob]

I think Tara's mom came off as more of a villain than Tara did in that book.

Well, today we would call Pat a "Karen"

 

[Yazmeen]

Bravo to the great Ann Telnaes - this is THE ultimate political cartoon on this whole controversy (had to do a tiny url here). And boy did she nail Eteri's look perfectly.

https://tinyurl.com/25459maz

 

[skatfan]

Yes... apparently Medvedeva was on the same flight and was helping her out (not sure if she was coincidentally on the same flight, or if she changed her plans to make certain of it).

https://twitter.com/mossyzinc/status/1494694598857400325

Dudakov was on the flight too. Coaches had to leave after their skaters last events.

 

[overedge]

Well, today we would call Pat a "Karen"

"Karen" is a sexist and demeaning term. Not even Pat Lipinski deserves to be labeled with it.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

"Karen" is a sexist and demeaning term. Not even Pat Lipinski deserves to be labeled with it.

Um, depends on who one asks. Some Black women would beg to differ.

 

[MacMadame]

There's a whole thread about this in PI if people want to argue about it.

 

[bardtoob]

"Karen" is a sexist and demeaning term. Not even Pat Lipinski deserves to be labeled with it.

You would feel different if you had ever experienced it, and technically it is an intersectional identity.

 

[Rob]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2022/02/20/us-figure-skaters-team-event-medals-doping/

 

[Karen-W]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/olympics/2022/02/20/us-figure-skaters-team-event-medals-doping/

Please, let them keep speaking up and out about this whole situation. Interesting quotes from Donohue and Bates. I get the feeling that they're not going to remain silent about the questions of doping that have obviously existed and been whispered about for many years.

 

[Firedancer]

Please, let them keep speaking up and out about this whole situation. Interesting quotes from Donohue and Bates. I get the feeling that they're not going to remain silent about the questions of doping that have obviously existed and been whispered about for many years.

I hope they do keep speaking up and that skaters from other countries join them. Maybe then something can actually change.

 

[overedge]

You would feel different if you had ever experienced it, and technically it is an intersectional identity.

I understand what it is and what it represents. That doesn't make it any less sexist or demeaning.

 

[Yazmeen]

And finally, one more...

Bagley Cartoon: Skating Routine

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www.sltrib.com

 

[bardtoob]

I understand what it is and what it represents. That doesn't make it any less sexist or demeaning.

The only reason I have a problem with it is that Karen is a relatively common name. Otherwise, it is just another name for the antebellum term "Miss Ann".

BTW this is the classic conflict between intersectional identities. Anti-racists and anti-sexists fighting among themselves when neither have the power to change their condition but can certainly make each other more miserable and gaining nothing in the process

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

The only reason I have a problem with it is that Karen is a relatively common name. Otherwise, it is just another name for the antebellum term "Miss Ann".

BTW this is the classic conflict between intersectional identities. Anti-racists and anti-sexists fighting among themselves when neither have the power to change their condition but can certainly make each other more miserable and gaining nothing in the process

Earlier today I thought of "Miss Ann" in terms of this discussion and privileged White women. So glad you brought it here.

 

[bardtoob]

Earlier today I thought of "Miss Ann" in terms of this discussion and privileged White women. So glad you brought it here.

To be fair, we should also mention the Jim Crow era Mister Charlie, which is typically called a Ken or Kevin today.

It amazes me that there were "common" terms for these ideas before there were theories. I guess, in this way, the necessity to cope was the mother of invention.

 

[Carolla5501]

"Karen" is a sexist and demeaning term. Not even Pat Lipinski deserves to be labeled with it.

I have very good friends who were named Karen by their parents. And the sexist term is your spin on it. They’re nice women. What is demeaning is the fact that you have decided to attach a label to a name that doesn’t mean that at all.


So how about we say overedge is sexist and demeaning just because of your name?

 

[cholla]

Just wanted to give a good journalist I know a shout-out - @cholla you've been sitting on a hundred stories and witness statements you have chosen not to publish because they're either not yours to tell or the interviewees have changed their minds.

Wow thank you for all the compliments! It's true I have had to make a choice: be trusted by the athletes or write (sometimes) click baits and earn money. Frankly it was an easy choice as I have been an athlete myself. Also, as a former sport psychologist I'm in the right place to know the damage than can be done in athletes' heads. It doesn't mean I sugar coat everything I write, I just try to remain fair. And the girls in my team are free to write anything they want as long as it doesn't cross the line of an athlete saying "this is off the record".

 

[Nikki Lee]

Interesting look at skating history:

Each skater was assigned a designated weight - called a 'set'. Skaters who didn't make weight were docked money out of their paychecks and sometimes threatened with being sent home. Some skaters wouldn't eat for three days before the weigh-in. Others would pile on clothing to tip the scales. Many took laxatives to lose weight. Many thought the more alcohol they drank, the less weight they'd gain."² The lengths many professional skaters resorted to in order to keep their paycheques and jobs are largely undocumented. They weren't subject to drug tests."
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A History Of Doping In Figure Skating

A figure skating history blog. Rummaging deep into the archives to bring you the stories you don't always get to hear!

skateguard1.blogspot.com

 

[Sylvia]

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ETA: Oops, meant to post this article in the GSD thread (just moved it there): https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...y-for-team-medals.109402/page-47#post-6265115