Wyliefan
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THERE we go.All links to X should be auto-translated into "I'm a Plushy wannabe twit."
THERE we go.All links to X should be auto-translated into "I'm a Plushy wannabe twit."
All social media companies cooperate with all sorts of governments including China. They sell our data. They construct products designed to addict us and our kids and that have caused harm to kids, especially teenagers. All. of. them.It is not whataboutism. I am deeply concerned about the influence that TikTok has on the US and our people.
TikTok is not owned by the Chinese government. It is owned by a company just like Meta (Facebook, Instagram, Threads, WhatsApp) and a host of others whose names I can't keep up with. In fact, it's owned by a billionaire just like them.You do realize that TikTok is owned by the Chinese government. The same government that has committed genocide (among other things) against its own people. I don’t find that to be ok.
Putin. A Putin-wannabe twit.All links to X should be auto-translated into "I'm a Plushy wannabe twit."
I knew someone would call me on that - I was in a hurry when I posted.TikTok is not owned by the Chinese government. It is owned by a company just like Meta (Facebook, Instagram, Threads, WhatsApp) and a host of others whose names I can't keep up with. In fact, it's owned by a billionaire just like them.![]()
I don't like tiktok either - but how does that link say tiktok is worse than twitter, which is owned by someone who threw a Nazi salute, and has in general engaged in white supremacist, antisemitic behaviour pretty constantly, and is now spending his time gaslighting people into believing none of that ever happened? On the very platform he owns?I knew someone would call me on that - I was in a hurry when I posted.
For those who think TikTok is harmless:
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Why does US see Chinese-owned TikTok as a security threat?
TikTok CEO Shou Zi Chew has endured a nearly six-hour grilling by U.S. lawmakers, some of whom are pushing to ban the popular short-video app nationwide.apnews.com
Remember - I’m in the don’t ban X camp, but if X were to be banned here then I would like TikTok to be banned as well. Also, for the record, I don’t use or click on either platform, unless it is by mistake, which occasionally happens.
Western governments worry Chinese authorities could force ByteDance to hand over TikTok data on American users, exposing sensitive information. Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Mao Ning said Friday that China’s government has never and will not ask companies to “collect or provide data, information or intelligence” held in foreign countries, adding the U.S. “has not provided any evidence so far to prove that TikTok threatens U.S. national security.”
ByteDance says 60% of its shares are owned by non-Chinese investors such as U.S investment firms Carlyle Group and Kohlberg Kravis Roberts and Japan’s SoftBank Group. Employees own 20% and its founders the remaining 20%.
Never said it was worse or better. Just saying both platforms have issues and if one is banned, so should be the other.I don't like tiktok either - but how does that link say tiktok is worse than twitter,
This is one of my problems with this proposed ban. I realize that people are saying that this is a one-off, limited to just this one platform this one time. But experience has been that once we do one ban, we will be pressed to do more and a ban on X will be held up to us precedent; people (and not just purple skates) have already suggested others. There would be some validity in that, too, IMO. Are we all going to agree to draw the line on only banning forums owned by creepy people who give Nazi salutes and leave it at that?Just saying both platforms have issues and if one is banned, so should be the other.
I didn't say it was harmless. I said that we need protection from all social media and that focusing on TikTok is a distraction. (Well, I hinted at that last part. Trying not to get into PI territory.)For those who think TikTok is harmless:
Umm....You do realize that TikTok is owned by the Chinese government. The same government that has committed genocide (among other things) against its own people. I don’t find that to be ok.
As last night's tragedy demonstrates, certainly plenty of skaters do still have X accounts - Ethan Peal & Luke Wang amongst them.I was told yesterday that all the figure skaters abandoned X long ago, but I just found a Jason Brown post from last week on X. So maybe they aren't ALL gone? I dunno; I don't have time to look up a lot of skaters to find out, nor am I going to track down their other social media accounts to find out if they also post the same stuff elsewhere.
I did not quote something that you said. The poster I quoted was (in my opinion) defending TikTok while telling us that the sins of Musk were worse.Umm....
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Supreme Court upholds TikTok ban: Read the full SCOTUS decision
The Supreme Court announced Friday that it is upholding a ban on TikTok in the U.S. Read the full SCOTUS decision here.www.usatoday.com
And, yes, I realize not all of us are in the United States, though you and I are.
As to the subject of this thread: We have voted. Now let's let SHARPIE make her own decision.
Sorry for the double post.Is there some way to see the results of the poll without voting?
So not quite 100 people? That's not a lot of input for a board this size.61-ish to 38-ish to ban.
The total of participants is 72 for the record.So not quite 100 people? That's not a lot of input for a board this size.
He is saying, I believe, that you as an American wouldn't be able to view those links anyway, so not sure why you feel strongly. Those are already banned in some countries, not just the US (although IIRC the order is stayed right now). Twitter is only banned in dictatorships, and I don't believe that will change anytime soon.I’m not sure why you found it necessary to respond.
Sorry for the double post. That was percentages. I will edit. The current number of voters is 72.So not quite 100 people? That's not a lot of input for a board this size.
The vast majority of the board likely have no idea there even is a poll. I do think you are getting input from many of FSUs most engaged posters though if that matters.So not quite 100 people? That's not a lot of input for a board this size.
Or even care enough to find out what the poll is aboutThe vast majority of the board likely have no idea there even is a poll. I do think you are getting input from many of FSUs most engaged posters though if that matters.
The vast majority of the board likely have no idea there even is a poll. I do think you are getting input from many of FSUs most engaged posters though if that matters.