I accidentally read the comments under a C0v1d-19 article and that's when I learned that. As for what day they will pick next, I figure they'll be too busy complaining about the deficit and how Biden hasn't done anything about itI actually hadn't. When is it going to disappear after Inauguration has come and gone and it's not gone? They're running out of dates.
The following animations showing trends since July 1 reflect statewide, rather than individual, party affiliation. The author took his data from The New York Times.One thing I'm curious to know is if GOP supporters are dying from C19 in disproportionate numbers.
Anecdotally what that nurse from South Dakota had to say about YKW deniers refusing to believe they had YKW and dying from it would seem to indicate that the answer is yes.One thing I'm curious to know is if GOP supporters are dying from C19 in disproportionate numbers.
I don’t really know if I should be talking about all of this. It makes me worried for my safety. I’ve had strange cars driving back and forth past my house. I get threatening messages from people saying they’re watching me. They followed my family to the park and took pictures of my kids. How insane is that? I know it’s my job to be out front talking about the importance of public health — educating people, keeping them safe. Now it kind of scares me.
That woman's story is just terrible.
Honestly, I don't know where we go from here as a country.
Some of them were, anyway, but I find it hard to believe all of them were.She says in the article they've done similar campaigns around measles and other infectious diseases (although I guess those didn't include masks) and there was never any problem, people were receptive and positive.
I use all this in class as an example of effective and ineffective persuasion, but I've thought about this a lot during the ********* because it seems to me that we are seeing the same issues in persuasion here--the more insistence there is on "This is fact and science! How can you not see this!" the more resistance there is to the message. There are a lot of issues involved here; I don't think the solution to this problem is simple or straightforward, and it definitely isn't "We need to show them more facts." Facts are not really the issue.
I think when she said that the other campaigns found people receptive and positive, I don't think she meant they were largely effective but more than the targets were polite about it and didn't threaten to kidnap her children.Some of them were, anyway, but I find it hard to believe all of them were.
There has always been a strong suspicion toward the government in the US. Conservatives in general are (theoretically) all about small government, so they are, at least to a point, anti-government in their thinking (even though this never translates to smaller government under GOP admins). At some point, they found that exploiting this increased their power and could be used to expand their grasp on the government (irony!). So that's what they did.Its not Trump, he just glommed onto and it onto him. But there are a lot of people deliberately sowing hostility and distrust in our society. Some have their own separate agendas like the anti-vax movement but much of it is subsumed under the rightwing populism that Trump has fulfilled so well. (Although I have a whole separate post to make about how libertarianism has played a very significant role in preparing the ground of distrust of government and of others.)
Yes, there are those people. But there are a lot of rank and file politicians who are, I believe, completely sincere.I'm not sure who you are referencing @Prancer . There have been a lot of people cynically sowing distrust for their own gain for a long time, from Lee Atwater and Newt Gingrich to Rush Limbaugh and Alex Jones, to various Fox News hosts, to Steve Bannon and Donald Trump. There most definitely is a deliberate effort to promote authoritarian populism by sowing division and distrust.
I'm not really talking about conservatism, but about distrust of the government.Now has there always been distrust of the establishment, suspicion of educated experts and all that? Sure. These folks of course didn't create that anymore than they created the racism they stoke.
Has there always been small government conservatism? Yes, since the beginning of the Republic but it has often been something quite different than rightwing authoritarian populism. I don't think Ayn Rand following libertarians like Alan Greenspan intended to bring about the country we see today.
I don't know why you would be responsible for understanding them any more than you already do. They really aren't all that complicated. What more is there to know?The only responsibility I feel towards them is to treat them as having the dignity I think all human beings have. But I don't feel any call to especially try to understand them other than for my own curiosity.
I don't think we should be, either. I don't know of anyone who isn't part of that belief system who does.But I don't think we should be at the mercy of the existence of these many people who perhaps sincerely believe that liberals are an apocalyptic threat to America and Donald Trump is standing between the country and ruin.
Isn't the term "reality show" an oxymoron?Ok well I'm in a shock. I hang out at a popular reality tv show message board where most of the members are gay males. You'd think it'd be a rather progressive board right? Wrong. I go to "OT and Political Discussion" and it's apparently where all the Qnuts have gone after FB cracked down on the groups. There's daily "studies" about how masks CAUSE C19. Conspiracy theories run amok. Plans to cause bodily harm to certain governors. Wtf. I didn't know young, gay males who adore the Bachelorette are also CV-deniers.
Every single US Senator who tested positive has been Republican (although Kaine and Casey both said they tested positive for antibodies after they had symptoms in the spring). Of the Representitives who tested positive, about twice as many belong to the GOP. https://www.npr.org/2020/04/15/8336...*-has-affected-individual-members-of-congress
The apparatchiks, you mean? I imagine some are sincere and some are interested in their own careers in politics. But they are the followers just like the rank and file voters.Yes, there are those people. But there are a lot of rank and file politicians who are, I believe, completely sincere.
Its a little hard to know if there is or ever was a political ideology of conservatism these days.I'm not really talking about conservatism, but about distrust of the government.
Before they came to America I suppose, but I think the word conservative as a political term does go back at least to the 18th Century?I am Scots-Irish, you know. My people hated government before "conservative" was a political term.
Oh only because I've been reading a lot of columns looking at what Democrats need to do that treat it as though there was something Democrats can do and sometimes go to the point of blaming liberals for the state of the country because they just don't understand all those people out there who have turned to Trump.I don't know why you would be responsible for understanding them any more than you already do. They really aren't all that complicated. What more is there to know?
I don't think we should be, either. I don't know of anyone who isn't part of that belief system who does.
Yes there has always been distrust of government but I think that it has been utilized by the cynical manipulators and turned into something ferocious as a political force which is now endangering democracy and governance in this country in a way it did not in the past.