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Obama Says Goodbye

Discussion in 'Politically Incorrect' started by DFJ, Jan 11, 2017.

  1. DFJ

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    If only Trump had been a person who would accept such advice.
     
  8. caseyedwards

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    But the person took a picture of the letter with their phone?
     
  9. twinsissv

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    If only 45 was not a person so filled with personal hatred for the President who gave this positive advice to him, perhaps he would be capable of absorbing and acting upon these words of wisdom.
    President Obama assumed he was addressing a mature man who would take his position seriously. Little did he realize that his letter was destined for the trash heap of history because of an incompetent and vengeful little tweeter who is most likely driven by jealousy and bigotry based on class as well as race. He knows it now...as do we all.
     
  10. Susan1

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    I think he knew what kind of man he was addressing, otherwise he wouldn't have had to spell out how to be a decent human and how to be president. Previous presidents just wrote a couple lines of "good luck" and things like I know you'll do a good job. No one had to tell the next what was important and how to do it. No wonder 45 is pissed. And won't do what he was advised to do.
     
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  11. misskarne

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    Here's some videos that you've probably all seen but relevant to the subject of the thread.

    "This American Life" asked Sara Barielles to write a song about all the things she thinks Obama would have liked to say. Then they asked Leslie Odom Jr to sing it. The result is more than a little spine-tingling.

    The original Broadway cast of "Hamilton" were invited to the White House where they performed "One Last Time" for Obama in farewell. Since "One Last Time" is George Washington's final appearance in the show, it's pretty emotional and very much a tear-jerker.
     
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  12. aftershocks

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    Wow! "Why not, as a populace, take our time or the weight [of what's happening] seriously?"

    Indeed, spine-tingling, timely, and a serious question that deserves serious reflection by serious-minded people.

    There's only so much one man can do. I believe Prez Obama tried his best to actually calm 'fears' in the immediate aftermath of the election. And as well, he tried to offer assistance and an olive-branch of sorts to Trump for the serious purpose of keeping our country and the world on a safe path.

    To no avail, obviously. This is what happens when the highest office of the land is casually handed over to a profane, childish narcissist by a percentage of ill-informed and/or simple-minded/ brainwashed/ misogynist Americans, via the voting booth and Russian Internet hacking/ election interference.
     
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    Every thinking person needs to hear and heed, this.
     
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    Wow! WOW! Just wow! And Bravo! Bravo! Bravo! :respec:
    Also...absolutely true!
     
  15. aftershocks

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    Commenting on the thread title: Obama is not going anywhere, but it's too bad he's not still in office leading our country (better yet, it should be Hillary). I'm sure both the Obamas are happy with moving forward and making a difference in other ways for the rest of their lives.

    Meanwhile, Prince Harry was in conversation with Mellody Hobson at the Obama Summit in Chicago. Find the highlight video with Hobson and Prince Harry here: https://www.obama.org/

    And here's the full session on Youtube with Hobson/Prince Harry, etc.:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIXFLLYAxSY

    Also pictures from Kensington Palace Twitter of Michelle Obama and Prince Harry meeting with young students at a school in Chicago:
    https://twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/925483912977113088/photo/1
    http://tomandlorenzo.com/2017/11/michelle-obama-and-prince-harry-at-the-hyde-park-academy/

    A nice, caring, intelligent and humanitarian-minded change of pace from Trumpster-Dumpster-land fiasco.

    ETA:
    Michelle Obama's conversation at the Obama Summit:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMVvgt63e8k
    Wow! :respec:
    About finding one's voice: "You don't tweet every thought... And I'm not talking about anyone in particular. I'm talking about all of us...

    Have a healthy skepticism... You're not always right... Every word you utter has consequences... We have to be open to the power and truth of other people's views... The truth of how much words matter is true for each and every one of us... You have to treat people as if they are precious...

    There's a balance you have to have in life to succeed...

    Empowering children starts at a very young age...

    We can do a good job of taking care of others when we take care of ourselves..."
     
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    Prince Harry interviews President Obama (to air December 27th), reported by KP, with a brief clip:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/KensingtonRoyal/status/942353717101318144 :)

    Ssome of the comments by Trumptards tho' :rolleyes: Good comebacks by people who recognize what decency in a U.S. president looks like, regardless of whether you agreed with Obama's every action. No one can be a perfect president, but Trump makes looking like a retarded sullen fool in the Oval office all the rage among 'deplorables'.
     
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    This was not meant to be a political statement when the singer said it, but it certainly fits perfectly into our current political fiasco.
    To those Trumpsters who may end up in the dumpsters...
    remember this:

    "You get everything you want or everything you think you want, then you realize the gap you thought it would fill is still there."
    -the late George Michael
     
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    I posted a 'Good news' in the OTBT forum. You can read the details there, but briefly, I found out about 'Obama phones ' this morning. Apparently President Obama had given grants to states (mine included) to help people with mental problems and those living in extreme poverty. Arizona received $5 Billion. I saw a first hand example of how it is being used for a good cause, through a woman who works for the crisis center. The poor people are given these phones so they can call for help (rides to hospitals or shelters, etc.).

    I am sure there will be people who will criticize this because tax payers' money is being used. I feel it is being used for a good cause. Not only it does it help the poor but it also protects others from potential crimes. Of course Trump wouldn't dream of helping the less fortunate. I am surprised that he has not yet found a way to deny the states these funds. Only a compassionate person can think of helping the poor.
     
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  19. Reuven

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    Agreed. I have pissed off my more conservative friends by telling them that I WANT my tax dollars to be spent helping the least among us. Better use of it than subsidizing big oil, G.E., or other huge corporations.
     
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    "It's a matter of taking the side of the weak against the strong, something the best people have always done."
    -Harriet Beecher Stowe

    p.s. Special emphasis on the word, best. :respec:
     
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    Anyone else following this story?

     
  22. snoopy

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    That was an interesting read. And I was looking for this:

    Obama campaigned on closing gitmo. But once he got into office, he didn't. I assume because he got some intelligence that said "bad idea". So I was interested in trump's take on the DEA approach. At least right now, the trump team isn't changing tactics, I assume for similar reasons (classified intelligence). Maybe that will change in the future, we'll see.
     
  23. skatingguy

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    I think Congress had something to do with not being able to move the rest of the people being detained there to penitentiaries in the US. Presidents can make all the promises they want, but most of what they want to requires negotiating with Congress.
     
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    When I first saw them online, I was unsure what to think, as they are not traditional. But, the more I read about them and look at them, I think they really capture a pivotal moment. it's the 21st century, and this will show a line of demarcation as future generations look at the long line of president portraits. They are modern paintings, with traditional elements. The colors, the sense of movement without actually moving, it's pretty cool. I loved hearing the artists' own interpretations, and I especially love the fact that these portraits will really stand out among the Presidents and First Ladies. I think children will be drawn to them a lot faster than the Oval Office portraits of the past. It will bring about discussion and diverse ideas, and art that makes people talk and think is the art that is truly transformative.
     
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    I agree. Obama's is an excellent likeness and I recognize the artist (Kehinde Wiley, or at least it's Wiley's style). I don't like the portrait of Michelle Obama either re it's scale in comparison to Barack's portrait, and also the likeness is just so-so of her. I wonder if they were painted by the same artist?

    Oh I see no, not by the same artist. The styles are indeed so different. I was right about the Wiley portrait though. I wish he had painted Michelle as well. Wiley has done wonderful portraits of females, but many more of male figures in triumphant oversized portraits.

    Michelle's portrait looks better up close. Here's what one of the articles said about Michelle Obama's portrait and the artist she chose, Amy Sherald:

    "For her portrait, Michelle Obama chose Baltimore-based artist Amy Sherald. Sherald is another African-American artist known for her unique style, and her portraits also tend to underscore themes of social justice. She often paints black skin tones in gray as a way to take away the assigned 'color' of her subjects. Sherald's work is less about realism in composition and more about shape and color..."

    Anyway, I still don't think Sherald's portrait is as competent as Wiley's. Something seems off with the arms in the Michelle portrait, and I'm not that enamored of the blue background. I'd need to see and learn more about Sherald's aesthetic.
     
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  27. skatingguy

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    I think both portraits are stunning, and beautifully painted. They have so much detail.
     
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    Here's The View's take on the Obama portraits:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2qh-ZREiJ0

    Here's commentary in The New Yorker about Amy Sherald's portrait of Michelle Obama.
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/a...ry-of-amy-sheralds-portrait-of-michelle-obama
    ^^ This article is well worth the read. I'm going to get the photograph book mentioned, Chasing Light: Michelle Obama Through the Lens of a White House Photographer. :)

    The New Yorker journalist's fascinating analysis of Sherald's portrait, and of Michelle Obama's tenure in the White House:
    "The tenure of the first black First Lady was defined by her no-nonsense charm, her easy beauty, her rhetorical gifts, her championing of healthy meals for the young and the poor. She had a long-lasting emotional effect on millions of people. And then she had to hand the baton to Melania Trump. One wonders what the sitter divulged to the portraitist, who has experienced her own trials—deaths in the family, a heart transplant. One wonders how the years in the White House—which, Michelle Obama reminded the country, had been built by slaves—affected her.

    I think the portrait is one answer. It is an intensely private work of art that will seem otherworldly in whichever state gallery hall it is hung. 'What have we done?' Michelle Obama has said she asked her husband the first time she watched her two daughters leave the White House for school, shadowed by a Secret Service army. In public exit interviews, Michelle Obama is open about her relief that the eight years is over. The portrait, beautiful and discomfiting, is like a memory of what we never knew."

    I do love the idea of the dress being representative of a quilt similar to those crafted by the women of Gee's Bend, Alabama:
    http://www.soulsgrowndeep.org/gees-bend-quiltmakers

    So, the portrait of Mrs. Obama has depth and resonance beyond just being a glamorous official portrait likeness of a former First Lady. It is rather unexpected for many different reasons, apart from our first impressions. The artist's intent is intertwined in many ways with her understanding of her subject.

    More analysis:
    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/02/13/michelle-obama-portrait-message-dress-216971

    http://people.com/style/michelle-obama-wears-milly-gown-in-smithsonian-portrait/ See photo of the dress the designer adapted especially for Mrs. Obama's portrait sitting

    More about the designer of the dress Mrs. Obama is wearing in the portrait:
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/fashion-label-millys-moment-is-eye-political-storm-1035615 Click on the comments section to see some interesting reflections

    More about Kehinde Wiley and his Obama portrait:
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/a...ve-in-kehinde-wileys-portrait-of-barack-obama

    http://www.skny.com/artists/kehinde-wiley

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-the-artist-behind-president-obamas-official-

    The outrage now being expressed over Wiley's past works is so clueless and hatemongering.
     
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    The snippet from The View, linked in above post, mentions the past controversy over Bill Clinton's official portrait.

    Here's more about Bill Clinton's official portrait, which has since been pulled from view at the Smithsonian and substituted by the work of another artist, Chuck Close:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...clinton-and-the-dress/?utm_term=.9c0e7f512cb1
    Seemingly, the Clintons did not like the original portrait of Pres. Clinton by Nelson Shanks when they first saw it. Shanks later revealed that the shadow he had painted on the fireplace mantel was the specter of 'the dress.' Not funny and very inappropriate. The artist's intent was frankly not genuine in the first place. That official portrait incident must be why U.S. Presidents and their wives are now offered the privilege of selecting artists of their own preferred choice, for their official portraits for display in the museum's National Portrait Gallery.

    More about Chuck Close's portrait of Bill Clinton, which is the one on view at the Smithsonian since 2009:
    http://npg.si.edu/blog/now-on-view-bill-clinton-chuck-close