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Some news bits:

  • 36 cases of the new variant first detected in India have surfaced in Ontario.
  • Ontario’s premier has finally reversed course and now says he is all for paid sick days.
  • City of Brampton’s positivity rate is 22.4%
  • Ontario had 4094 new cases with 24 new deaths.
  • The vaccine rollout has been criticized for not targeting CVD hot spots sooner
  • AstraZeneca has been recommended for people 30 and over but supply is an issue
  • Long lines outside vaccine clinics are very common
  • Different types of clinics can have different rules which creates confusion
  • Indirect flights from India are not banned.
  • Toronto has administered over 1m vaccine doses. Mostly the first dose.
  • There are two cases of blood clotting associated with the AZ vaccine reported in Ontario
  • Large employers like Amazon will eventually offer vaccines on site in Peel
 

Debbie S

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Thanks for posting. FYI, we are now advised not to have our vaccination cards laminated (Staples and Office Depot should give free plastic sleeves for the cards) b/c our boosters will likely also be recorded on those cards.

Got my 2nd Pfizer today. Very few people there. Site has been underutilized since it opened (mid-March) but it was crowded 3 weeks ago due to the gov announcing a walk-in option there, plus we weren't yet in phase 3 but they were vaccinating everyone. I guess now since all phases are open and more mass vax sites have opened, people are going elsewhere. They told us last time we could go to a pharmacy for the 2nd dose but CVS was annoying (appts not available until a few days before and locations near me were perpetually booked) so I just kept this appt. The good news is that there was no line, I was out in 20 minutes, including post-vax waiting time.

The site is in a rural, conservative area (along the highway, I saw several Trump signs not yet taken down :yikes:) so I imagine there is vaccine hesitancy. Although there are pharmacies and other sites in the area giving vaccines so people could have gone there. The car in front of me on the main road to the building was from VA. Last time, I was behind a car from DC.
 

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:cry:

The Anguish of the World’s Doctor​

Dr. Tedros of the W.H.O. publicly focuses on managing the *********. Privately, he weeps as his Tigrayan people are raped, starved and slaughtered.
 

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Oregon hospitalizations are now at 295. Assuming they reach 300 hospitalizations tomorrow or the next day, then restaurants & bars in Baker & Klamath County will have been open for indoor service about 18 days longer than they would have been had they been placed at "extreme risk" on April 7th per our old system. Now we have about 12 counties headed for "extreme risk" instead of only 2, and some of those counties have far more restaurants & bars than Klamath & Baker County. Some of these counties would probably has seen numbers rise anyway, but I very much doubt that as many would have. As far as I can tell, the lowering of health standards enabled the spread of dangerous variants, sped up case spread among the entire state, increased hospitalizations by over a third (and growing), and will ultimately cost more businesses more money because increased spread statewide means that growing case numbers are no longer centered in a few rural counties but are now also in our most urban counties.

Brilliant:p.
 

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Interesting. They just opened one in my (urban) area - which I was just at to get my first shot :)
Aside from the fact that it ran like a fine-tuned machine, what I noticed was that probably 95% of staff/volunteers were POC and the majority of people who got vaccinated there were as well.
They opened one here and had 3000 vaccinations available--and traffic is slow, although so far they haven't had to toss any vaccine. I was in Kroger today and they kept announcing that they had vaccines for walk-ins, no waiting.

There is a lot of vaccine resistance here.
 

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They opened one here and had 3000 vaccinations available--and traffic is slow, although so far they haven't had to toss any vaccine. I was in Kroger today and they kept announcing that they had vaccines for walk-ins, no waiting.
The center closes at 5 but there was still a steady flow at 4:45 although my mom says it wasn't as busy as where they got theirs. However, my parents were vaccinated back in early February, so there were a lot less opportunities at that time. (That location is closed now but it was a medical center, so I'm assuming they prefer to have other sites open). In addition to a couple of new(er) vaccine centers, I think every pharmacy in the area is now vaccinating as well.


There is a lot of vaccine resistance here.
I'm sorry to hear that.
 

Dobre

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Public high schools in Central Oregon now have vaccination clinic days scheduled to give first & second doses at the schools. (Private school students can attend the nearest high school clinic to them).

Dates are here: https://tinyurl.com/4vdzc4zt
(Most have both appointments scheduled in May).

I'm glad they have an organized system and that the students will be able to complete the Pfizer series before summer. Also I think it could be good for the kids to have that peer support.

Lewis & Clark College in Portland is planning to require vaccinations.
(Good for them. May it be the beginning of a trend here).
 

Dobre

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Trump is just the gift that keeps on giving. Not.

(This explains why the vaccines sent to Canada & Mexico had to be a loan).


"The contracts the Trump administration signed with the vaccine manufacturers prohibit the U.S. from sharing its surplus doses with the rest of the world. According to contract language Vanity Fair has obtained, the agreements with Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Janssen state: 'The Government may not use, or authorize the use of, any products or materials provided under this Project Agreement, unless such use occurs in the United States' or U.S. territories.

The clauses in question are designed to ensure that the manufacturers retain liability protection, but they have had the effect of projecting the Trump administration’s America First agenda into the Biden era. “That is what has completely and totally prohibited the U.S. from donating or reselling, because it would be in breach of contract,” said a senior administration official involved in the global planning effort. 'It is a complete and total ban. Those legal parameters must change before we do anything to help the rest of the world.'


In a statement to Vanity Fair, a Defense Department spokesperson acknowledged the contract restrictions, saying: 'DoD did attempt to negotiate terms that would allow the use of vaccine doses outside the U.S., but in some cases, the vaccine manufacturers refused.' Given the imperative to produce 300 million doses for the American public, said the spokesperson, Operation Warp Speed officials agreed that it was 'more important to contract with the vaccine manufacturers for doses that could be used' by U.S. citizens 'than walk away from the negotiations based on this single term.'

The impasse is especially frustrating because the Biden team’s global ambitions go beyond donating money or surplus vaccines. Vanity Fair has learned that the administration is quietly considering plans to have the U.S. serve as a major manufacturer of affordable, high-quality ********* vaccines for the entire world—a role typically reserved for lower-cost countries such as India. The effort began in plain sight on March 2, when the administration announced that, under the Defense Production Act, Merck would repurpose two of its U.S. manufacturing plants to begin producing the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. The partnership, pairing two traditional rivals, could yield as many as one billion doses a year.

The immediate goal was to 'vastly increase' America’s supply, but the extra doses could also be used to supply the world, said a senior Biden official: “Just connect the dots. There’s a real ability for the U.S. to become a major supplier” of ********* vaccines."
 

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Interesting. They just opened one in my (urban) area (which I was just at to get my first shot :))
Aside from the fact that it ran like a fine-tuned machine, what I noticed was that probably 95% of staff/volunteers were POC and the majority of people who got vaccinated there were as well.
Same.
 

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They opened one here and had 3000 vaccinations available--and traffic is slow, although so far they haven't had to toss any vaccine. I was in Kroger today and they kept announcing that they had vaccines for walk-ins, no waiting.

There is a lot of vaccine resistance here.
There isn't here but similar things are happening. It looks like the people who really, really wanted to be vaccinated have all been and now they have to reach the lazy people, the ones who think it's going to be too much work right now to get an appointment and the ones who are convinced that other "more worthy" people should go ahead of them.

I have seen a lot of PSAs about "get your vaccines!" but not PSAs about "it's easy and it's free!" and not a lot of news stories about how it's so much easier now to get an appointment.

So even though I get shot 2 tomorrow, I remain frustrated. I have helped a few people get appointments but I'd like to do even more.
 

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Trump is just the gift that keeps on giving. Not.

(This explains why the vaccines sent to Canada & Mexico had to be a loan).


"The contracts the Trump administration signed with the vaccine manufacturers prohibit the U.S. from sharing its surplus doses with the rest of the world. According to contract language Vanity Fair has obtained, the agreements with Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, and Janssen state: 'The Government may not use, or authorize the use of, any products or materials provided under this Project Agreement, unless such use occurs in the United States' or U.S. territories.

The clauses in question are designed to ensure that the manufacturers retain liability protection, but they have had the effect of projecting the Trump administration’s America First agenda into the Biden era. “That is what has completely and totally prohibited the U.S. from donating or reselling, because it would be in breach of contract,” said a senior administration official involved in the global planning effort. 'It is a complete and total ban. Those legal parameters must change before we do anything to help the rest of the world.'


In a statement to Vanity Fair, a Defense Department spokesperson acknowledged the contract restrictions, saying: 'DoD did attempt to negotiate terms that would allow the use of vaccine doses outside the U.S., but in some cases, the vaccine manufacturers refused.' Given the imperative to produce 300 million doses for the American public, said the spokesperson, Operation Warp Speed officials agreed that it was 'more important to contract with the vaccine manufacturers for doses that could be used' by U.S. citizens 'than walk away from the negotiations based on this single term.'

The impasse is especially frustrating because the Biden team’s global ambitions go beyond donating money or surplus vaccines. Vanity Fair has learned that the administration is quietly considering plans to have the U.S. serve as a major manufacturer of affordable, high-quality ********* vaccines for the entire world—a role typically reserved for lower-cost countries such as India. The effort began in plain sight on March 2, when the administration announced that, under the Defense Production Act, Merck would repurpose two of its U.S. manufacturing plants to begin producing the Johnson & Johnson vaccine. The partnership, pairing two traditional rivals, could yield as many as one billion doses a year.

The immediate goal was to 'vastly increase' America’s supply, but the extra doses could also be used to supply the world, said a senior Biden official: “Just connect the dots. There’s a real ability for the U.S. to become a major supplier” of ********* vaccines."
This clause makes sense because there's another clause that prevents US manufacturers from exporting vaccine until the US order is completely filled, so this is the reverse clause that protects the manufacturers from the US government.
 

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Japan Declares 3rd State Of Emergency, 3 Months Ahead Of Olympics​


S.Korea signs with Pfizer for additional 40 mln *********-19 vaccine doses​

 

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The Guardian liveblog is reporting that there were almost 350,000 new cases in India in the past 24 hours. It's just horrific. :(
Relative to the size of the population, it's in line with case numbers in other countries when things were not going well - in some cases not as bad. I hope this link works:

This, of course, does not make the situation a good one, especially given that hospitals are getting overrun.
There's also the question of whether numbers are not reflecting actual cases, because testing can't keep up - a distinct possibility given the current test positivity rates.
 

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New Hampshire moved down from red to orange on the NPR map today. Illinois is also back down in orange.

New York is still in red but has made it down to 27 cases per 100K, which I believe is the lowest it has been since turning red during the winter surge.

Nationally, new cases are heading the right direction now. Down 12%, per the NYT. (They were heading up at least the last couple weeks). Hospitalizations are up 5%. Deaths are down 1%.

States currently in red with 25 or more cases per 100K: Michigan (now at 56 per 100K), New Jersey, Delaware, Rhode Island, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Maine, Colorado, Florida, New York. Puerto Rico is also in red.

States currently in yellow with 1-9 cases per 100K: California, Hawaii, Arkansas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Mississippi, Arizona, New Mexico.

All other states are in orange with 10-24 cases per 100K.

In general, this week case numbers look to be falling in the Northeast & upper Midwest. Rising in Oregon, Washington, Colorado, Nevada. Puerto Rico has had its worst average number of cases over the past two weeks. Maybe headed down but too early to tell yet.

More states are seeing green (falling averages) this week than states seeing rising averages. This is the first week in which this has been the case since states started reopening stuff following the holiday season. (I'm thinking Dr. Fauci is feeling better about things here, though not in my state).

(((India))).
 

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Relative to the size of the population, it's in line with case numbers in other countries when things were not going well - in some cases not as bad.

According to my calculation 350.000 daily cases per day in India is relative to population size less than the daily cases Germany has right now (if they had about 450000 cases per day it would be the same rate) But i'd also guess that by far not all infections there are detected and their hospital system might be overloaded much faster.

I read today the EU wants to send help and equipment to India.
 

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We took my daughter for a rapid CV19 test this afternoon, and it was negative. The PCR test results will come in a day or two, hopefully those will be negative too.

What a time. Her symptoms started last night when we were at my parents' house in Maine, going up to a 102/103 degree fever. By the time we realized she was definitely sick, it was too late to head home. We left as soon as we could this morning.

I was in a state, thinking that we might have brought CV19 into my parents' house, after they've been so careful and cautious all year to avoid it!
 

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We took my daughter for a rapid CV19 test this afternoon, and it was negative. The PCR test results will come in a day or two, hopefully those will be negative too.
I hope everything will be OK, Claire. I have a feeling that regular illnesses are going to make a comeback here now that schools are not required to have kids distance 6 feet apart. I'm sorry it happened while you were visiting your family.
 

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Oregon had 780 new cases today. (Sundays are usually low reporting days, & that number is not low). 27 cases in Grant County. Yikes! And back they will go toward the top of the NYT list. I'm wondering if agricultural workers might be starting to arrive in the county & getting tested? It has been many days since the county has had more than 7 cases at a time. The state had 33,700+ vaccinations this week. The vaccination average is down substantially but it's hard to tell how much of that is because J&J has been paused and how much is that some counties may be done going through the portion of their population that is anxious to be vaccinated. While I do assume that is happening in a number of rural counties, there are still far more people in the urban ones & I don't think those counties are there yet--so I assume the lower numbers right now are a combination of factors. We'll see what happens next week when, I assume, J&J distributions restart.
 

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Btw there were several scientific models in Germany that predicted the curve of the 3rd wave in Germany based on the expected behavior of B.1.1.7 and I just read an analysis on how accurate they were.

According to the model projections for Germany the 7 -day incidence rate (number of new infections per 100,000 inhabitants in seven days) with B.1.1.7 should have risen to at least 250 by this week, even considering all mitigating factors like the seasonal effect, vaccination status and stricter rules,

What actually happened is that the 7-day incidence rate is currently 169,3 nationwide, even though lockdown was not actually tightened and there even was temporary lifting of restrictions. We have an a bit stricter lockdown now again, but it's still less strict than the one we had during the 2nd wave in winter.

This seems to show that using scientific models to predict ***** spread behavior is still sort of difficult. There was a short phase of exponential growth when B.1.1.7 became dominant, but then it sort of started stagnating despite rather mediocre attemps for stricter restrictions (the short hard curcuit breaker lockdown that was planned for Easter was even cancelled completely).

In Switzerland dominance of B.1.1.7 also did not lead to expontential growth, even though they have even less strict rules.

Generally of course the situation in Germany is still very tense, but the "catastrophy" that was predicted for the 3rd wave so far didn't really show up. So maybe the seasonal effect is a bit stronger than expected or the vaccinations start helping a bit more than initially calculated. Or the main problem with those models is that they don't include the fact, that people always start to behave more careful voluntarily when numbers rise and/or that unvaccinated people right now get more careful, because they don't want to risk infection so close to having access to a vaccine.

Strangely in all countries in middle Europe that I follow closely it seems to me that WHILE B.1.1.7 became dominant (growing from like 20% to 80 or 90%) there was instant exponential growth, but as soon as it is actually nearly fully dominant (like 95% of infections) the exponential growth seemed to fade out. I wonder if scientists have looked at this.
 

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Strangely in all countries in middle Europe that I follow closely it seems to me that WHILE B.1.1.7 became dominant (growing from like 20% to 80 or 90%) there was instant exponential growth, but as soon as it is actually nearly fully dominant (like 95% of infections) the exponential growth seemed to fade out. I wonder if scientists have looked at this.

Farr's law (epidemics, generally, follow a bell shaped curve)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farr's_laws

The tricky part is forecasting when the curve will peak...
 

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Notes from the resistance

Meet the Anti-Mask Michigan ‘Scientist’ Stoking the Fourth Wave

[U]nlike most conservative anti-maskers who completely dismiss the *********, she’s leaning on a compelling personal story, some acknowledgment of basic facts, and, most of all, what she describes as nearly two decades of experience as an industrial hygienist, a field that focuses on ways to protect employees from hazardous substances at work.

“The science,” she told The Daily Beast, “is on my side.”

Leading scientists in her field are not, and expressed serious concerns about Kelly’s activism and how she was portraying the profession.


A private school in Miami, citing false claims, bars vaccinated teachers from contact with students.

A private school in the fashionable Design District of Miami sent its faculty and staff a letter last week about getting vaccinated against *********-19. But unlike institutions that have encouraged and even facilitated vaccination for teachers, the school, Centner Academy, did the opposite: One of its co-founders, Leila Centner, informed employees “with a very heavy heart” that if they chose to get a shot, they would have to stay away from students.

Ms. Centner gave employees three options:

  • Inform the school if they had already been vaccinated, so they could be kept physically distanced from students;
  • Let the school know if they get the vaccine before the end of the school year, “as we cannot allow recently vaccinated people to be near our students until more information is known”;
  • Wait until the school year is over to get vaccinated.
Teachers who get the vaccine over the summer will not be allowed to return, the letter said, until clinical trials on the vaccine are completed, and then only “if a position is still available at that time” — effectively making teachers’ employment contingent on avoiding the vaccine.
 

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