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MsZem

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That sounds interesting, I hope you can keep us updated when there's more news on this?
Here's an article expanding on the tweet I posted yesterday. I'd say follow Nadav Eyal and/or Ran Balicer, but they mostly tweet in Hebrew. I'll try to share updates as they come.
As the article notes, Clalit is Israel's largest health fund (public HMO) and it has a higher proportion of older people using its services than the other three.
 

Dobre

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Will proof of vaccination also qualify, I wonder?
I know an EMT here in Oregon was given a card when he went in for his vaccination, and they told him it would be needed for air travel. Of course, I've no idea what the UK & other countries are doing.
 

acraven

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There have been reports that multiple companies or groups are trying to build electronic systems to track records of vaccination. They hope such things will be useful in opening up travel. Time will tell.
 

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CDC vaccination report for Wednesday, Jan 13:

Vaccine doses distributed: 29,380,125

First doses administered: 10,278,462 (3.1% of population; 34.98% of doses distributed)

The linked CDC webpage now also includes state-level statistics, including doses distributed and administered per 100,000 of population. (West Virginia still leads the race to vaccinate. The bottom five are Nevada and four states in the southeast.)

Edited to add: The Washington Post tracker says over 1.1 million people have gotten the second vaccination.

On the ***** front, it looks as if the UK and Ireland are past their recent peaks, though still high by their standards.
 
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Ontario had 2961 new cases with 74 deaths. Toronto had 738 new cases and the province’s positivity rate is 6%. Keeping my fingers crossed that new cases continue to go down.
 

Susan1

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They are still making more so I don't think that's a worry.
I was just sort of kidding. I'm hoping that everyone will be cured by the time I'm up and I won't have to get one at all.

I forgot, awhile back I was talking about getting sick in preschool from pink wafer cookies that still make me queasy to look at (actually a vaccination that morning) and was wondering what that could have been. I asked on my graduation class page. The consensus was we all had to go to the Memorial Auditorium at that age and had to drink the polio vaccine out of a little cup. Nobody remembers getting a shot from a "gun" in the library in high school though. Maybe I dreamed it???


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FGRSK8

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Another new variant has been identified in Ohio.

What is interesting is that all these new variants around the world are more or less similar.

What we may be witnessing is that the crud as a whole is downshifting to a more contagious form. I have not seen any reports or studies on whether these new variants are less deadly but I think the answer will be yes.

if it turns out it is less deadly, we may find that the new variants will crowd out the current version. We will see an eventual fall in the death rate.

if the trend continues, the next variant will be of a variant which will be even more contagious but even less deadly.

What will happen eventually is we end up with a variant that is No more than a bad head cold with little complications.
 

skategal

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There have been reports that multiple companies or groups are trying to build electronic systems to track records of vaccination. They hope such things will be useful in opening up travel. Time will tell.
Wow. That’s not going to be an easy task

But good to see it happening.
 

MacMadame

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Nobody remembers getting a shot from a "gun" in the library in high school though. Maybe I dreamed it???
Maybe you saw it on the news? I had a scar so I definitely got it. Or maybe that was smallpox? Anyway, it was a gun and I had scars.

And also I ate the sugar cube. I remember that quite clearly.
 

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I remember with the smallpox one they put a drop of liquid on my arm and poked a bunch of places with a needle.
The gun did the same thing, just all at once.

I got the gun and the scar. I have no idea how I got polio vaccine, though.
 

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I recall receiving the Salk polio vaccine shot in school about 1954/1955. I don't know how or if they vaccinated adults. Sabin oral vaccine was given on "Sabin Sundays" probably about 1962 and I think we got those at a nearby high school and I think my mother received it also.

I know I got my smallpox vaccination, but the odd thing is I received mine in my thigh. I don't recall when I received that vaccination or where.
 

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Over 9,000 vaccinations in Oregon today +
@5,500 vaccinations via delayed reporting.

This is good. Numbers keep going up.

The goal--at least prior to the recent announcement that all vaccine doses will be released--was to get to at least 12,000 a day by the end of the week.

My county health department did call me this morning, but I missed the call. When I called back, I got someone else. I think he put me on a list for possible extra doses today; but they must not have had enough since they did not call back. Nonetheless, turns out this is a possible benefit in living within a half-hour drive of my county's health department. Also a good motivation for yours truly to make sure I answer every phone call.
 

Erin

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Wow. That’s not going to be an easy task

But good to see it happening.

Is it really that challenging? I thought most places already have electronic records of (other) vaccinations. I know I have had to request my records before. I guess the difference for cv-19 might be how that information is shared?
 

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Who to believe - global medical health experts or a random person with a YouTube channel? 🤔
Why would anyone waste their time video taping an empty hospital, unless they know that something wrong is going on. If most of the hospitals are busy, it would be very difficult to find an empty hospital.
The 'global medical health experts' are paid lots of money to say those things. There are doctors who are against masks and lockdowns and the vaccine because they know this isn't the right way to control the *****. These doctors are risking their license to say the opposite. Of course most people won't be able see these videos, because they have been censored. Youtube, google, and other big media companies don't want you to see them because they don't want everyone to know the truth. Of course, they won't tell you that. They say they will censor any videos and articles with false info. Snopes will debunk the 'conspiracy theories'. If the videos have false information, let us decide what is false or not, but do not censor the videos. One woman in UK was arrested filming empty hospitals. There is nothing wrong filming empty hospitals. What is the gov't afraid of? Exposing the truth?
If the masks and lockdowns worked, we wouldn't be in this situation now. Most people actually wear masks. Only a small number don't. So why is it getting worse????
 

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Why would anyone waste their time video taping an empty hospital, unless they know that something wrong is going on.
You know, up until this post I found your argumentation to be fallacious, but I have to admit I have now changed my mind and will be canceling my vaccination appointment, never again reading reputable news sources, and burning all my dirty diapers masks.
 

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You are worse than a dumba***.
Must be, as I have no idea what dumba*** means. I would say it means dumbass, but there's an extra asterisk in there.

Oh, wait, did you mean to add some sort of footnote? Like, dumbass*.

*I am not sure how many letters are in this word.

Or maybe you DID mean dumbasss and there's an implied hiss.

Dumbasss- that I am, I still want to see those peer-reviewed articles I am supposed to believe--those and nothing but those. Just to be fair, I'll give you one:

LR Baden, et al. Efficacy and Safety of the mRNA-1273 SARS-CoV-2 Vaccine. The New England Journal of Medicine. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2035389.

Tag, you're it!
 

MacMadame

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I signed myself and dh up to be notified when it's our turn to get the shot. We are both definitely in Tier 1c and based on some relaxing of the standards, we may be up next as they might collapse the tiers. (It's not clear.)
 

FGRSK8

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I recall receiving the Salk polio vaccine shot in school about 1954/1955. I don't know how or if they vaccinated adults. Sabin oral vaccine was given on "Sabin Sundays" probably about 1962 and I think we got those at a nearby high school and I think my mother received it also.

I know I got my smallpox vaccination, but the odd thing is I received mine in my thigh. I don't recall when I received that vaccination or where.
Lady Figureskates had her smallpox vaccine in the thigh as well. They did that for the girls so it would not leave a scar in the shoulder which I have and is pretty big...
 

FGRSK8

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The best sources of accurate information are the peered reviewed articles and the journals they appear in, such as the New England Journal of Medicine.

I am fornunate is I have my father‘s body of work he did over 20 years. He had a group of researchers around the world which I have the pleasure of being able to correspond with. Unfortunately many have passed away but there are still a few. Many are interested in the work I am doing with my spreadsheets and we have discussions on them. One of the most recent was when I noticed a jump in the numbers in the UK. My Dad’s last surviving partner lives in the UK and we looked over the numbers and he says it looks like there is a change in the *****. Turns out weeks later that there indeed a new variant.

One thing they all agree on out there is there is a lot of misinformation as well as downright untruths floating out on the internet.

Any information I post here is based on peered reviewed articles, non as yet peer reviewed articles from respected researchers who publish peer review articles, what my numbers tell me using standard statistical methods and projection formulas...
 

Susan1

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I remember with the smallpox one they put a drop of liquid on my arm and poked a bunch of places with a needle. It scabbed up and got red and sore. Then the scar happened, which I still have. And I remember the polio sugar cube.
This is why I am so confused. The polio sugar cube would have been in the early 60's - preschool. And the "losing" the pink wafer cookies is the only thing I remember about that. I don't remember my mom taking me to the Auditorium in the morning. Other people in my group do. We would have walked. It was only 4 blocks away, next to where I went to first grade. The gun thing was in the mid 70's in the high school library. Lots of people had those round scars from the smallpox vaccine way before that. That was also mentioned in the FB group. I have never had one. And I would scar. I still have a scar on the inside of my elbow from Rascal, German Shepherd where I babysat, happily jumping on me and scratching me, when I was in high school.

After the cookie incident (I mean, this is still vivid! I was crying and scared and my mom had to come (from four houses away) and take me home. And seeing pink wafer cookies on the shelf still makes me break out in a sweat. PTSD!), maybe they were afraid to give me another vaccine. I remember my records said I had the MMR when I was little, but that would not have been in the arm. Wouldn't the gun thing have made me sick? It wasn't a bunch of pokes either - just like an air poof and go. How did I survive a shot in the arm without passing out from fear?

Thanks, all, for thinking with me. I give up.
 

skategal

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Is it really that challenging? I thought most places already have electronic records of (other) vaccinations. I know I have had to request my records before. I guess the difference for cv-19 might be how that information is shared?
Yeah lots of places have digital immunization records but they don’t talk to each other or interoperate much. They are mainly stand alone clinic based systems.

Provinces have tried to implement province wide systems with varying degrees of success and they don’t necessarily interoperate with systems from other provinces. (Most times they don’t.)

Then there are all the data sharing pieces and agreements with clinics/communities/provinces/indigenous groups to do if you want to import the data from existing systems or consent pieces if you are trying to get the data straight from the patient.

And it all has to be done right now.

Fun times.
 
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