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Miezekatze

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Oh I would think shy kids would love to hide behind a mask!
Yeah, I think that's the point, they fear they'll participate even less than they do anyway :lol:

In the supermarket when people have to talk with masks, often they nearly scream, so I think cloth masks are not the optimum for schools, especially if they don't fit well.

I think it would work best if everybody had well fitting surgical masks, my friends who have to work with masks , both say they are the best if you have to talk a lot. My friend who is a teacher say that her students had difficulties understanding her when she wore cloth masks.

Surgical masks are available here freely again, but they're still overpriced and many people don't like the idea of all the waste.
 

Susan1

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Ever the optimist, Trump figures "herd mentality" will solve the problem.


Joe Scarborough

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Donald Trump battles the English language in an attempt to let voters know he now supports herd immunity (3 million US deaths) as the solution to *********: “You’re going to develop, you’re going to develop herd mentality; it’s going to be, going to be herd developed.”
I saw the clips a couple times last night. Herd "mentality" is his supporters.
 

Theatregirl1122

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My kids and I are doing fine with masks just far. I have a couple of really quiet kids that I cannot hear, but mostly the masks are sooooo low on my list of drama except for a couple of kids with anxiety.

For younger kids, my suggestion would be to just basically do an Easter egg hunt for Halloween. Older kids will notice the difference and care, but little kids totally won't
 

MsZem

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Susan1

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Just a related aside - remember my aunt with the lung problems and dementia, who has been living (they cleaned out her apartment months ago) with my cousin, her son? She will be 86 on the 22nd. As of yesterday, "her breathing and vitals are good". His wife had a total knee replacement surgery last week and is staying with HER sister for a couple weeks. So Tim is at home alone taking care of his mother and working from home. His twin sons will be 18 next month. They are seniors - half in class and half remote at a Catholic school. Sheesh. It's a good thing he is an overly positive person! And nobody got sick from the July 4th gathering.
 

Susan1

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Misc. from 4:00 news -
Sports - they've been interviewing bar owners all day about OSU football starting. And they can't wait to have people packed in like sardines to watch the games?

School - 4 staff members at Miamisburg have tested positive. 15 students are in quarantine.

Greenville (rural/Darke county) - 4 high school students and 2 K-8 students in isolation.

Cases - 140,518 / 24 hour - 1,033 / 21 day average - 1,092
Presumed recovered - 118,443

Hosp. - 14,560 / 79 / 72
ICU - 3,134 / 23 / 10

Deaths - 4,555 / 49 / 24
 

MacMadame

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So Santa Clara County is annoyed with the big medical groups for making excuses and not setting up widespread testing like they are supposed to. So it's going to fine them.


I suspect the threat of fines will work. I am disappointed with PAMF (my medical group) for not doing it. They are a non-profit that solicits donations and claims to be part of the community so they should do their part.
 

Sylvia

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Dr. Leana Wen tweeted the link to a WaPo article, along with this comment: https://twitter.com/DrLeanaWen/status/1306269044115468289
Maine wedding ‘superspreader’ event is now linked to seven deaths. None of those people attended. And this is the problem: 10-20% of infected people are responsible for 80% of #********* spread. We can't predict who these individuals are.
Portland (Maine) Press Herald article:
 

Spikefan

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My plan for Halloween (if the weather is decent) is to scatter the candy in my driveway and post a clever sign on my garage door. I don’t have to deal with anyone at my front door and kids that aren’t together can stay socially distant. If it’s raining or snowing I don’t plan on doing anything.
 

MacMadame

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No one comes to our house so I will do what I did last year. Buy a bag of candy "just in case" and it eat it all in too short an amount of time.

I was coming here to post that Maine super-spreader event article. I found it very interested because it shows a bit how these things spread along travel lines and how interconnected many social circles are.
 

sk8pics

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I was driving home today from Assateague Island and heard on the news that Delaware’s positivity rate is now 7.2% :wall: :wall:

My friends that I met there, from Kentucky, went out to dinner last night. They had to wait for a table because the place was full. :eek: The tables were spread out, but still, it was full! And today my friends said to me, oh we’re very careful, we never go anywhere. :wall::wall: I think the crud rate there is low, but there were people from all over in Chincoteague. That’s who I worry about, even more than the local people. I hope my friends don’t get sick. I was with them outside, so I felt relatively safe.
 

canbelto

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According to worldometer 147 deaths were reported in Arkansas today. Is that a backlog or have cases been spiking that much?
 

missing

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According to worldometer 147 deaths were reported in Arkansas today. Is that a backlog or have cases been spiking that much?
I noticed that also and assumed it was a reevaluation of previous death certificates.
 

once_upon

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We didnt have tricker or treaters for the last two years. So i don't think i'll spend time on that

My crisis is going to be Christmas. It just won't be the same sending gifts to the grandkids houses. Ive been very teary eyed thinking about it, because I really do spend too much on Christmas but live to see them open gifts. The 10 year olds are asking for gift cards as it is. Now all 5 of them are likely to get Amazon bucks. :(
 
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MacMadame

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And today my friends said to me, oh we’re very careful, we never go anywhere.
Everyone always says that. It's like gun owners. They all say "oh I am a safe gun owner." But at least 50% of them are LYING.

I guess it's not technically lying though because they really, really believe it.
 

Japanfan

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My crisis is going to be Christmas. It just won't be the same sending gifts to the grandkids houses. Ive been very teary eyed thinking about it, because I really do spend too much on Christmas but live to see them open gifts. The 10 year olds are asking for gift cards as it is. Now all 5 of them are likely to get Amazon bucks. :(
I've been wondering how Thanksgiving, Christmas and New Years are going to play out. It's likely to be very disappointing for many people. I usually spend Thanksgiving and Christmas at a friend's (Mr. Japanfan works), and there are few enough people that social distancing won't be an issue. But I had hoped to entertain on New Year's Eve - my living room will accommodate maybe 4-5 socially distanced people (have to measure it). Should be enough, but a lot of people have way more elaborate plans.
 

missing

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My schedule for disaster goes as follows:

Halloween parties
Thanksgiving with Grandma and Grandpa
My Santa doesn't wear a mask
Christmas is Christmas
Drunken New Year's Eve parties
2021 gets off to a real bad start

Throw in a bitterly contested election and college students going home for winter break and the picture gets even scarier.
 

MacMadame

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Mini-Mac is coming home for Christmas and we are going to do a drive-thru Christmas in the Park thing. I think it will be more fun than the regular Christmas in the Park which I find not worth making a separate trip for. I'll miss our Santa Run though. Mac Boy will probably come over Christmas Day. How much we socially distance will depend on where cases are in Dec.
 

once_upon

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One of our neighbors had a granddaughter born in December. Lori and Ron have only gotten to hold her when she was in the NICU as they have been in the offices even during SAH orders (essential businesses).They are expecting a grandson in November and don't anticipate being able to hold him until we can return to some normalcy. Since I was daycare for four of them and backup daycare for the fifth one, I got to hold/snuggle/play with them since birth. I just cant imagine how emotional painful that must be.

At least my grandchildren are old enough to know who we are and at least understand air hugs. I really miss them and they tell me they miss me. But their parents want to protect us and them. :(
 

Susan1

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Before the press conference today - here are the numbers from Ohio's border states comparison slides from Tuesday that I couldn't see. Press conference notes don't come up on the website right away.

Cases Per 100K -
KY - 12.6
IN - 11.9
WV - 9.8
MI - 8.4
OH - 8.3
PA - 5.8

Positivity rate -
IN - 7.2
KY - 6.8
PA - 6.5
WV - 4.9
OH - 3.6
MI - 3.1

Testing per 100K -
MI - 274
OH - 231
WV - 202
KY - 187
IN - 165
PA - 89

And, they talked to a doctor on the local news about OSU playing football. They will have the antigen test every day. He said it's faster, but not as accurate. They didn't mention that that's what DeWine had that gave him a false positive. How are people going to know? They will have blood tests, EKGs and MRIs to detect myocarditis, but don't know the long term effects. Just to play football = $$. This is college. I would be too worried about getting sick to concentrate on schoolwork.
 

Jenny

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My schedule for disaster goes as follows:

Halloween parties
Thanksgiving with Grandma and Grandpa
My Santa doesn't wear a mask
Christmas is Christmas
Drunken New Year's Eve parties
2021 gets off to a real bad start

Throw in a bitterly contested election and college students going home for winter break and the picture gets even scarier.
Here in Canada, Thanksgiving is less than a month away, and for many it's also "close up the cottage" weekend, and while there are very few cases in cottage country right now, when all those city folk show up, who knows.

Plus, Oktoberfest. The big events are cancelled this year, but I just heard from a relative that smaller communities are going ahead with it, "but don't worry, they are setting up a series of tents so families can enjoy their beer and food safely."

This kind of thinking is a key issue I believe. The whole notion of family or social bubbles, without taking into account that all these bubbles are overlapping and forming one giant bubble that endangers everyone. And the idea that "it's OK, we're following the rules on how many people can gather at once" might prevent things from spreading more widely, but does little to protect those who attend with false confidence, and everyone they come in contact with afterward.
 

Buzz

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Ontario has 293 new case with 85 in Toronto and three new deaths. Private gatherings are to be reduced to 10 people indoors and 25 outdoors in Peel, Toronto and Ottawa.
 

Jenny

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Further to @Buzz numbers, the majority of active cases in the province are people under 40, with the biggest spike in 20 somethings. This is not an "old people" issue any more.

Also, more than half are counted as "untraceable," which alarms me not so much in that we don't know, but in that it's possible that people are either lying about what they've been doing, or worse, don't even realize the risks they are taking.
 

firefly

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Ontario has 293 new case with 85 in Toronto and t
Has that been officially announced? I live in Ottawa and would like to know when I can start contacting law enforcement to crack down on student gatherings :shuffle: I've seen a massive change in my neighbourhood since the beginning of September, I don't feel super safe walking in the park or in the street anymore... Ottawa can't seem to get it together, but we've done so well this spring!
 

Susan1

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Quarantine travel advisory so I don't have to write it down during the update -
SD - 16.9%
ID - 16.4%
AL - 16.2%
MS - 15.8%
 

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