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gkelly

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  • No business may operate, allow a customer to enter or conduct business with a customer unless the customer is wearing a face covering.
  • No individual may enter a business — whether it’s operating indoors or outdoors — without first donning a face covering, unless the person is exempted under the state order.
So the first bullet point would penalize businesses if they deal with customers who don't wear face coverings, but it says nothing about whether the business operators or employees wear them.

Is that covered by the second bullet point? The business operators/employees cannot enter their own businesses without donning a face covering?

I can think of a few possible businesses where the operator might enter their own place of business, which is not the same location as their home, but have no direct contact with customers or other employees. Those would be exceptions, though.
 

Dobre

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So the first bullet point would penalize businesses if they deal with customers who don't wear face coverings, but it says nothing about whether the business operators or employees wear them.
These are extra bullet points for Yakima County. I'm assuming that business operators & employees are required to wear the masks in all counties in Washington.
 

Amy L

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So it seems like my mom made a good decision to not go back to church and stick to watching their YouTube channel instead. Her pastor tested positive as did his wife (who has Parkinson's), so far they are not sick enough to be hospitalized, but one lady from Bible study is in the ICU. And she is not elderly or chronically ill. My mother however is both of those things so she's starting to get pretty freaked out. I have a feeling she's going to start trying to talk my husband into living in the shed (I mean, it does have AC but it's still a shed). He is an essential worker and never stopped his frigging carpool so I get it. It's hard to calm down when we're just sitting at home watching the numbers climb.

My county stopped reporting cases and deaths from all the prisons here, probably because it would make the numbers increase exponentially. Even without them, there about 50-70 diagnosed per day, which is about double it was during the beginning of the wave. The county judge is still not going to issue a mask order, leaving it up to the individual cities. The vast majority of the cases are the towns that directly border Houston. I have a bit of a buffer, there's a town between them and where I live. But everyone lives and works all over the place, plus we have beaches so it's gotta be really difficult to trace the movement of the crud.
 

MacMadame

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My county stopped reporting cases and deaths from all the prisons here, probably because it would make the numbers increase exponentially.
One of the jails in my county is notoriously bad about so many things and now they have a major outbreak there.
 

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Susan1, sorry about your glasses.

I think it is OK to go to the eye doctor. My SO had cataract surgery on both eyes and has had two other checkups. They did not let anyone in the clinic until 5 minutes before their appointment and everyone was masked. I also noticed that you needed to make an appointment to get frames/lenses. The shop was locked up otherwise. I felt that this eye surgeon's place did everything they could to keep things safe.

I would ask if they could provide you with a paper mask for your visit.
Thanks. I do have the blue masks. They just don't fit my face right for seeing. They do have all the protocols on the website. I was on hold and they didn't have an option to leave a message. I'll try again tomorrow.
 

once_upon

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There was a group or 20 or so people on the approach to the Pedestrian Bridge. As they were making plans to "do" this next week (whatever that is), it seem pretty obvious to me they weren't a family group. As the broke up and went different ways I could see they weren't social distancing nor wearing masks. I guess people figure Ricketts said restaurants could open to 100% occupancy if could social distance (yeah right), we are over it.
 

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our state's positive cases increased 28% over the last week mostly due to people going to Myrtle Beach, SC and three different churches. We were doing very well. We have 34 employees in quarantine all due to community exposure.
 

sk8pics

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Thanks. I do have the blue masks. They just don't fit my face right for seeing. They do have all the protocols on the website. I was on hold and they didn't have an option to leave a message. I'll try again tomorrow.
Those are the disposable masks, right? So there is kind of a wire or more rigid edge to one side. If you flip it over, so the wire edge is at the bottom, so the lighter, more flexible edge is on your nose, it might work with your glasses. I know the wire edge causes me problems with my glasses, and this way, it doesn't.
 

Susan1

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Those are the disposable masks, right? So there is kind of a wire or more rigid edge to one side. If you flip it over, so the wire edge is at the bottom, so the lighter, more flexible edge is on your nose, it might work with your glasses. I know the wire edge causes me problems with my glasses, and this way, it doesn't.
Yeah, I didn't try wearing it upside down! But it's not the glasses that cause the problem, it's my face. ha ha. It's up under my lower eye lids whether I have the glasses on or not. I have high cheekbones. I have seen people on t.v. wearing black ones that dip down on either side from the nose, but I can't afford to buy more masks.

Local news - A specialized day care that was allowed to stay open during the three months of the shutdown (not a Kinder Care or anything like that) was forced to close because they had 12 toddlers and 6 staff test positive. They did not report it to the proper agency. They are disinfecting and will open back up July 6.

New 24 hour local viewing area reported county cases -

Montgomery - 47 cases and 1 death
Warren - 15 cases
Greene - 6 cases and 1 death
Clark - 9 cases
Mercer and Miami - 1 case each

Also, there will be warnings about private fireworks. It's never stopped anybody before.
 

SkateSand

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So I've figured out how most of the local businesses (that didn't already require masks) are handling the new state-wide mask mandate. They will put up the obligatory signs, but they will do zero enforcement. My husband was at Safeway today to pick up a couple of on sale items and said about 50% of the customers were wearing masks (hey, that's an improvement over the usual 1/4 to 1/3 I see at stores that don't have signs), but he also said no employees were stopping customers who were not wearing masks. And that also explains my experience at Macy's where I saw the signs, but half the people were not wearing masks and no staff stopped them to ask them to wear a mask or leave. That's probably the wise response in this county, given the voting demographics.
 

Dobre

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So it seems like my mom made a good decision to not go back to church and stick to watching their YouTube channel instead.
Good for your Mom.:cheer2:

I have a friend from college that is still preaching online. She seems very busy, between making masks and giving sermons and running programs to help people.

My sister says her town needs a program for helping people who are now quarantined after the big outbreak in her area. She says that doctors can't tell organizations/churches/etc. who needs help because of HIPAA, but she has seen some people who are on their own and for one reason or another not stocked up well enough with food and supplies so it would really help if she could give patients a contact number when she speaks with the ones who are in a bind.

Hopefully, the contact tracing people have been able to help? But there are a lot of people in need right now so I am proud of my college friend for all the work she is doing in her own area while also preaching virtually to her congregation.
 

skatfan

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Good for your Mom.:cheer2:

I have a friend from college that is still preaching online. She seems very busy, between making masks and giving sermons and running programs to help people.

My sister says her town needs a program for helping people who are now quarantined after the big outbreak in her area. She says that doctors can't tell organizations/churches/etc. who needs help because of HIPAA, but she has seen some people who are on their own and for one reason or another not stocked up well enough with food and supplies so it would really help if she could give patients a contact number when she speaks with the ones who are in a bind.

Hopefully, the contact tracing people have been able to help? But there are a lot of people in need right now so I am proud of my college friend for all the work she is doing in her own area while also preaching virtually to her congregation.
A gal in our city has done that - it’s a clearinghouse. Sometimes an individual need other times a family. She calls it “[City Name] Gives”

Some cities also have a group called “Love Inc” which does the same kind of thing, connecting people to social services and the like.
 

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Disneyland postpones its July 17th opening until further notice.

Disneyland has been forced to postpone the proposed July 17 reopening of its Anaheim theme parks and delay the planned July 23 reopening of two Disneyland resort hotels while it awaits theme park reopening guidelines from the state.

“The State of California has now indicated that it will not issue theme park reopening guidelines until sometime after July 4,” according to a statement from Disneyland. “Given the time required for us to bring thousands of cast members back to work and restart our business, we have no choice but to delay the reopening of our theme parks and resort hotels until we receive approval from government officials.”
 

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Disneyland postpones its July 17th opening until further notice.

Disneyland has been forced to postpone the proposed July 17 reopening of its Anaheim theme parks and delay the planned July 23 reopening of two Disneyland resort hotels while it awaits theme park reopening guidelines from the state.

“The State of California has now indicated that it will not issue theme park reopening guidelines until sometime after July 4,” according to a statement from Disneyland. “Given the time required for us to bring thousands of cast members back to work and restart our business, we have no choice but to delay the reopening of our theme parks and resort hotels until we receive approval from government officials.”
I'm glad someone had some sense. As an annual pass holder, the last thing I wanted was them to open up, restart my pass, and not be able to use it because things were clearly unsafe there.
 

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Senator Marco Rubio says everyone should just wear a damn mask.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said Wednesday that “everyone” should be wearing a mask to prevent the transmission of the ******** as states across the country report troubling surges in confirmed cases and hospitalizations.

"The area where I think we have to definitely really surge on is nursing homes, ALFs [assisted living facilities], congregate living facilities that have a high number of people or obviously populations of people that are high risk. Those are the places where you're really going to cut down the death rate if you can prevent outbreaks ... and that's where I hope we focus both our testing and our prevention effort," Rubio told reporters after a GOP lunch with Vice President Pence. "And then everyone should just wear a damn mask, like you guys are, like I am right now."


It's hard for Republican politicians to get the tone right when they're talking about CVD19 because on the one hand, their states are in for very hard times, but on the other hand, their party leaders are choosing to deny the problem exists. So Rubio's comments seem to be in character, a little bit of wish and a whole lot of washy.
 

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Senator Marco Rubio says everyone should just wear a damn mask.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said Wednesday that “everyone” should be wearing a mask to prevent the transmission of the ******** as states across the country report troubling surges in confirmed cases and hospitalizations.

"The area where I think we have to definitely really surge on is nursing homes, ALFs [assisted living facilities], congregate living facilities that have a high number of people or obviously populations of people that are high risk. Those are the places where you're really going to cut down the death rate if you can prevent outbreaks ... and that's where I hope we focus both our testing and our prevention effort," Rubio told reporters after a GOP lunch with Vice President Pence. "And then everyone should just wear a damn mask, like you guys are, like I am right now."
It would be so easy, wouldn't it? But Miami is getting the hardest hit and there's this supposed 'you must wear a mask at all times' but no one is enforcing it or handing out the tickets they threatened. I do a post office walk every day (about a mile round trip, not far) as I'm still selling off a lot of my collectibles, and there remains an 'I don't care' attitude. I'd even say less people are caring now, with hotels opening back up and people escaping to the beach while they are out of work. Numbers aren't going to go down at all with this current 'solution'.
 

Polaris

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The US is a clowntown. This is going to be America's version of Britain's Suez Canal episode that marked the official end of its global dominance.
 

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The Four Atlantic provinces announced yesterday that residents can travel within all 4 without having a mandatory 14 day quarantine starting July 3rd.

Our summer vacation plans were booked literally 10 minutes after the announcement. :rofl:

Yippee!! :cheer2:
 

MacMadame

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I was going to book a campsite in Yosemite for August but today they announced they are closing one back up due to an outbreak.

Maybe the people who say they aren't even going to try to travel at all have a point.

I still want to go camping in August since I didn't go in April and I didn't go to Santa Rosa in May and I haven't been to Disneyland since Feb. and the Monterey Triathlon for Oct. was canceled and I probably won't go to my rescheduled 40th HS reunion in Sept. (assuming it even happens) and I'm not dropping my kid off at college in NYC in Aug. or going to Canada in Aug.

But I don't want to have to make plans 10x and then get left holding the bag when everything closes down at the last minute either.
 

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Nevada is going to full face mask mode.

Nevada Governor Steve Sisolak issued an emergency directive during a press conference Wednesday afternoon, making masks mandatory in public spaces. The directive takes effect Thursday, June 25 at 11:59, although Governor Sisolak mentioned it is “effective Friday...”

“One study highlighted by my Medical Advisory Team showed that replacing our strict lockdown with social distancing alone, without universal masking, results in an unchecked spread, with potentially devastating results. It showed that when at least 80% of a population adopts universal masking, it results in a substantial reduction of infection,” Sisolak said. “On the other hand, masking at only 50% of a population is not sufficient to prevent continued spread.


And in case you were wondering, this includes casinos.

The governor was previously hesitant to require mask wearing, but changed his tune once he saw videos of crowded Las Vegas casinos with visitors wearing no masks. Add to that the sudden surge in *********-19 cases across Nevada, and a ruling was born.

“I don’t know why, but when (did) protecting our health and our neighbors lives become a political, partisan, or even philosophical decision?” the governor said. “For me it’s none of those. It’s a medical necessity, a human obligation. And it’s good for businesses.”

The ruling requires everyone in casinos and all indoor public places in Nevada to wear masks except when eating or drinking.





 

Louis

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Good for him. If the GOP gets decimated this year, as it may well, he's in as good of a position as any to help to re-establish a version of the party that isn't rotten to the core.

I won't reiterate all the ways I'm horrified by the left signing over everyone's rights without a fight. But instead of responding with commonsense wisdom - which some would argue is / was Trump's claim to fame (not saying everyone will agree) - the GOP has doubled down on ignorance.

But I don't want to have to make plans 10x and then get left holding the bag when everything closes down at the last minute either.
Same. I've cancelled everything, taken refunds, and not rebooked. Where I am travelling, I am booking relatively close to the departure date (maximum one month away), not counting the trip as definite until inside the two-week window (and even then....), and planning to stay a long time.
 

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I think being able to cancel accomodation without costs until close to the travel date is more useful than booking relatively close to the departure date though.

I cancelled our expensive retreat vacation and only booked a holiday appartment from mid september that can be cancelled until September 5th.

A friend of mine had booked a hotel room in Munich a year ago already and yesterday the hotel informed her that the hotel is still closed :yikes:Talk about short notice. She found something else, but that would have been fun, if they hadn't bothered to inform her at all.
 

OlieRow

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our state's positive cases increased 28% over the last week mostly due to people going to Myrtle Beach, SC and three different churches. We were doing very well. We have 34 employees in quarantine all due to community exposure.
One of the Columbia news channels posted an article about 24 (I think?) cases in WV linked to Dirty Myrtle (which now seems more appropriate a nickname than ever!) and the comments section was all "How do they know it was the beach? Could have gotten it at a gas station on the way!" Yea, because all the separate groupings of cases stopped at the same gas station...
 

Simone411

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I believe I've mentioned before that my brother works for Southern Tire Mart in Shreveport. He has several accounts with companies that have food delivery trucks, dump trucks like Waste Management, other various trucking companies, two fire districts, the sheriff's dept. and the Desoto Parish School Board.

Yesterday, he delivered 50 tires to the DeSoto Parish School Board. The tires are for the school buses in our parish. The School Board is getting prepared for the coming school season.

I'm not sure how they're going to proceed, and they're still going over plans of how many trips the school buses will make. One of the employees at the school board told my brother that the plan for now is that each bus will carry only 15 students at a time to the different schools. The bus capacity usually holds around 72 students, but with the Beer Burden, they have a set of strict guidelines. The students will also have to wear masks while on the buses.

Each bus driver will make 5 trips in the morning to get the students to school. In the evening, each bus driver will make another 5 trips taking the students home. That's 10 trips per day for each bus.

That is why my brother had to deliver so many tires, and because of the wear and tear on those tires, he may have to deliver more tires in the future.

So this is the new norm for our schools in our parish in Louisiana. I imagine each parish will have a different set of guidelines, and it depends on how many students attending school in each parish.
 
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