News & Experiences continued

[Susan1]

I saw some of these girls interviewed on Chris Cuomo last night.
tinyurl.com/yd3w3bfj
The thing is, none of them got very sick, so people will think they might as well take a chance too.

 

[Miezekatze]

Both the Bundesliga and the English Premier League have resumed play. I am watching Dortmund v Mainz with no fans and it just feels strange.

They're thinking about allowing a limited number of fans into the stadiums for the next season in fall in Germany though.

I saw a TV report about the Spanish soccer league, they got virtual fans on the stands in tv (like in soccer video games) with fake cheering and applause. the tV viewers can choose whether to activate the feature personally I find that more weird than no fans.

Meanwhile we have another huge outbreak in Germany at one of Europes biggest meat plant, which is owned by some incredibly rich millionaire tycoon, who was whining on tv some weeks ago about how the meat industry is put under general suspicion and how he has those wonderful hygiene concepts Over 500 infected already after a half of the test results are back and 7000 people quarantined.
In that city all schools and kindergartens closed again and some sports club and the likes.

Generally German numbers still seem to be declining or stagnant which about 300 new infections / day. In most places the infections are very low , but there's the occasional bigger outbreaks here and there and some schools are closed again (note that schools have not fully reopened yet anyway, but are supposed to at End of June until the summer holidays to test how it goes to prepare better for fall).

Generally i find it interesting that China reacts so strongly (apparently) to even a handful of cases anywhere, while the European countries seem to take a more relaxed approach where a low number of constant new infections are tolerated.

 

[missing]

The Bold And The Beautiful is preparing to be bold and beautiful once again.

The husbands and wives of the cast could also see some screen time.

Bell may use "love-scene doubles" in which the husband or wife of the cast member will be the one touching the actor or actress. The scenes will then be edited to look like the couple from the show.

 

[manhn]

British Columbia: 19 new cases, but zero deaths. Two new outbreaks in long term care facilities, related to the one yesterday. All in the Abbotsford/Langley area.

 

[Dobre]

Today we have our first county to require masks indoors in Oregon. (Lincoln County, which is on the coast & has the Pacific Seafood outbreak).

Also, the county commissioners in Union County have advised everyone in the county to step back to Phase 1 activities. (The county with the church outbreak. They were in Phase 2).

I find this interesting. Both less populated counties that didn't have many cases until these major outbreaks recently. Both are examples of local leaders stepping up & making decisions. (Which I think is good to see).

 

[acraven]

This website shows data I had been wondering about--current cases and deaths by country. You can choose either the current day or a 7-day rolling average. It's set up to show the major European countries (you can add the smaller ones if you like) plus the US and Canada.

Coronavirus Pandemic Data Explorer

Research and data to make progress against the world’s largest problems

tinyurl.com

https://tinyurl.com/yahqpx7b

The footnote gives the European CDC as the source of the data. Observe Sweden at the top of the list--though it drops if you add Peru, Brazil and Mexico.

 

[Dobre]

It appears all the discussions about masks yesterday were not just talk in the states that I've been following. We have a new fashion trend:

Face coverings required in indoor public spaces in several Oregon counties beginning June 24
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/local/face-coverings-mandated-in-several-oregon-counties-effective-june-24/283-b33892a5-c6c7-4273-9b83-a3f3a0fb1131
The governor has now announced the above for 7 counties including the metro area so 55% of the state.

But not Umatilla or Union County. (Both of which are high on the per capita list).
Multnomah County (which includes Portland) has been approved to reopen and three other counties listed above have been approved for Phase 2. (I do not know why. Hood River's cases have not been good for the last couple weeks).

Multiple cities across Arizona announce plans to implement face mask requirements
https://www.abc15.com/news/********...nce-plans-to-implement-face-mask-requirements

One Texas county orders use of face masks to fight *********-19
https://www.kwtx.com/2020/06/17/texas-county-orders-use-of-face-masks-to-fight-*********-19/

Raleigh to require face masks in effort to slow the spread of ******** https://www.newsobserver.com/news/local/article243606317.html


Other state news:
California sets new record for most new ******** cases in a day: exceeding 4,000
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/California-sets-new-record-for-most-new-15348122.php

Arizona Sheriff Who Refused to Enforce Lockdown Restrictions Has *********-19
https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/arizona-sheriff-wouldnt-enforce-lockdown-has-*********-19-mark-lamb-pinal-county-11476330

Texas governor says young people are driving ******** surge
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/********-texas-young-people-case-surge/
(Another state with numbers of cases growing for people below 30).

Florida, Arizona and Texas set records for new *********-19 cases
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/florida-arizona-texas-set-records-new-*********-19-cases-n1231326

Iredell County Reports North Carolina's First School *********-19 Outbreak
https://www.wfae.org/post/iredell-county-reports-north-carolinas-first-school-*********-19-outbreak#stream/0
(Kids are not at school, but this high school had at least 5 cases among staff still permitted in the building).

 

[Susan1]

Ohio started reopening six weeks ago, hasn't seen a coronavirus case surge

Ohio has been reopening for more than a month but has yet to see a surge in new ******** cases.

www.yahoo.com

 

[Susan1]

I just saw this on Nextdoor. Town next to me - https://tinyurl.com/ydy6n4ju

 

[Garden Kitty]

I found out that one of the Churches in a nearby town runs a food pantry and they have an easy drop off system. I was able to bring by some paper products and canned food that I had as a reserve during the height of the *********. I wasn't sure if they'd still be collecting things from individuals but they have a no contact drop off and I'm glad these things will go where they can really be used.

 

[canbelto]

CA is now another state requiring masks in public.

 

[once_upon]

Meanwhile in Nebraska, Ricketts will withhold federal funds for assistance in C-19 relief if counties require people wear masks in public buildings.

Good thing I could renew car license plates online.

 

[Susan1]

So before the numbers - crap, crap, crap. The first thing he mentioned was hot spots in SW Ohio (Cincinnati to Dayton area). Me - from the protests maybe? And, he didn’t say what county, but that there was a visiting minister going to different churches that caused some of it. He’s had conference calls with the mayors in the hot spot cities (including Dayton). There is a Montgomery County update going on now, but only online. I’ll watch the 6:00 news. The National Guard is going to be here to do a surge of tests and there will be more pop-ups.

Copied the below off the local news page (none are close to me, or would have any reason to come to our Kroger or anything <just trying to help my nerves) -

Hot spot zip codes in Montgomery County: 45424, 45417, 45426 (all cities north)
Hot spot zip codes in Greene County: 45324, 45385 (east of Mont.)
Hot spot zip codes in Clark County: 45505, 45506, 45503 (east of Mont. - 15th)
Hot spot zip codes in Warren County: 45036, 45040 (south of Mont. - 16th)

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All bordering counties. He said 5 counties. I couldn’t see the map fast enough, and I don’t know where they got it. Hamilton (Cincinnati) was the 5th. It’s out of our t.v. viewing area, and so is Butler, which is next to Warren above Hamilton. They are up to 9th on the dashboard, but not mentioned. Montgomery is still 10th.

I know that all doesn’t mean anything to anybody. It was a shock - after the “Ohio is doing so great” article, although he said numbers are down statewide. 200 people out of the 829 tested at the Dole plant in Springfield (Clark County) tested positive. The first case was in April.

So -

39,973 confirmed cases + 3,149 probable = 43,122 total; 596,815 tests
Still - Ages <1 - 109. Median age now down to 48
700 more than yesterday.

Hospitalized - 7,104
ICU - 1,807
Healthcare workers - 6,255

Deaths - 2,401 confirmed + 232 probable = 2,633
70% are in long term care facilities

Columbus - 7,487 / 342
Cleveland - 5,404 / 327
Cincinnati - 3,508 / 181 (same as two days ago!)
Butler (9th/adding because it is the only other close one in the top 16) - 1,153 / 36
10th - Dayton - 1,118 / 18 - one more than two days ago / 229 hosp.

Clark is 15th, Warren is 16th.

So, after the crappy shocking news - they will have a stockpile for long term care facilities, a 30 day reserve.

Amy Edwards, Pediatric Infection Specialist, talked about the increase in positive tests for children and different manifestations of the c.v..

7th week of lower continuing unemployment claims. Still over 120K job openings on website since so many people have gone back to work.

Sports - contact practices and full training “is allowed to” resume June 22, with safety protocols. It’s up to schools whether they want to or not. Xenia? Maybe not.

Casinos, water parks, amusement parks can open tomorrow.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/new...s-target-kings-island/4AMy5fVboJtOW63mn1dBmK/
“A local woman is taking on Kings Island’s new policy of requiring all visitors to wear masks when the amusement park reopens next month. And so far more than 7,000 signers of Stevi Kurz’ online petition agree with her stance.” Geez.

A couple questions about the police reform thing from yesterday.

Any guidance on gatherings? Families are figuring out what works and using common sense. Well, not “my” family. Remember my aunt who is under Hospice care staying at her son’s house. They are having a 4th of July thing there, with her only other living brother <it’s actually his birthday, and was his mother’s/my grandma’s too>, who lives in Dayton, who has three daughters - with husbands and kids and grandkids, and who knows who else. I was invited. No. Thank. You.

The woman across the street had a garage sale again (and it rained for about 15 minutes and she had to put everything that was on the driveway in the garage again). I looked out a couple times when I heard cars. Nary a mask in sight.

Someone asked with the spikes, why not scale back reopening (me - little late for that). DeWine doesn’t want to Order something again. It was hard enough the first time.

Reporter asked how to justify Dr. Acton’s new position, with a salary of $236K (where do they find out these things?), when he has made all those cuts. Choices and tough decisions had to be made. And the c.v. has to be taken care of.

Will he take a pay cut? He said by law he can’t, but he will write a check back to (who? - Ohio? I wasn’t listening). He is donating half of his salary to charity. Lt. Gov. is taking a 4% pay cut. Very nice, but who is this money going to benefit after they’ve already made the cuts.

What about Ohio’s stockpiled hydroxychloroquine? Discussions are ongoing. And he said if they wouldn’t have stockpiled it and needed it, people would be mad. Will we stockpile other drugs that seem to be working. He listens to doctors and health professionals, and it will be their decision.

Are they going to quarantine people who come back from vacation from places like FL? People might want to make other choices, be aware of hot spots (yeah, don’t vacation in Huber Heights - ha ha-not), self-quarantine themselves.

Unless something happens he will be back on Tuesday.

 

[Susan1]

I found out that one of the Churches in a nearby town runs a food pantry and they have an easy drop off system.

I took some things to the no-contact drop off outside the mall between a closed Elder-Beerman and a side entrance a couple weeks ago, advertised on one of the t.v. stations. They just had big bins along the outside side wall. I took some things they asked for - pancake mix and syrup, peanut butter, juice boxes, individually packaged snacks.

 

[Susan1]

Montgomery County zip code map.
Can anybody read the number for Miamisburg - 45342 (big, almost white area at the bottom, right above the word Franklin that is not included in the county zip codes because it is in Warren)? Why are we a different color than everybody else - who has similar numbers (that I can read)? It's 40 or 48?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea0FaqOXQAIs5WQ?format=jpg&name=large

 

[Dobre]

Meanwhile in Nebraska, Ricketts will withhold federal funds for assistance in C-19 relief if counties require people wear masks in public buildings.

Do you have a link for this by any chance?

 

[manhn]

British Columbia: 8 new cases (back to single digits!) and no deaths! One of the new cases is a staff member of an independent school (they had no close contact with students), that school is closed for the rest of the year.

 

[once_upon]

Do you have a link for this by any chance?

Nebraska governor: Mask requirement will cost counties money

Nebraska’s governor told local governments they will not receive any federal money to help fight the effects of the ******** ********* if they require people to wear masks in public buildings.

www.1011now.com

 

[canbelto]

Nebraska governor: Mask requirement will cost counties money

Nebraska’s governor told local governments they will not receive any federal money to help fight the effects of the ******** ********* if they require people to wear masks in public buildings.

www.1011now.com

Holy shit. What a waste of space.

 

[Dobre]

Nebraska governor: Mask requirement will cost counties money

Nebraska’s governor told local governments they will not receive any federal money to help fight the effects of the ******** ********* if they require people to wear masks in public buildings.

www.1011now.com

What balderdash that is saying that wearing masks makes a county not fully open. On the contrary, it helps allow county businesses to stay open without having to promptly shut back down again due to spread.

Perhaps someone might sue?

 

[once_upon]

What balderdash that is saying that wearing masks makes a county not fully open. On the contrary, it helps allow county businesses to stay open without having to promptly shut back down again due to spread.

Perhaps someone might sue?

For what? This is Trump country. People think wearing masks are infringement on their rights. Or they will be breathing in dangerous CO2.

 

[overedge]

I went to a bank branch today to open an account for my dad's estate. The branch itself is open for limited hours and has social distancing marked out all over the floor, plus plexiglass shields in front of every teller. I wore a mask, as did the security guards out front and the staff, but I was really surprised that almost none of the customers had a mask.

I had an appointment with an account manager, and we met in a conference room instead of her office. She brought hand sanitizer with her, and we sat at opposite ends of the table. And she gave me a new pen to sign documents, and I took the pen with me.

The account manager told me that almost every day, at the time when the branch closes, the manager has to go out in front and settle arguments with non-masked customers. These customers are in the line-up to get in and are giving the security guards a hard time about not being allowed into the branch. Even though these customers usually show up after the closing time.....

 

[Prancer]

It's 40 or 48?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ea0FaqOXQAIs5WQ?format=jpg&name=large

Looks like a 48 to me.

Meanwhile "The governor identified counties with “worrisome” trends as Montgomery, Greene, Warren and Clark,"

So where we live, where we work and where the few people we have seen socially live and work. Wonderful.

 

[acraven]

I went to the Red Cross website today to find the phone number for scheduling donations. I noticed they're advertising *********-19 antibody tests (for a limited but undefined time) for donors. So anyone who hasn't had symptoms and hasn't bothered to seek out a chance to be tested but is curious and willing to give up a pint of blood--this is your chance to find out whether the ***** has come your way. I imagine they're trying to collect data to improve understanding of what percentage of the population has been infected.

The Red Cross says it still really needs blood.

 

[Jimena]

There are several serosurveys going on in the US at the moment, and blood banks are engaged in the project. It started in a few cities (NYC, Detroit) and is now expanding to other cities.

 

[aftershocks]

This Frontline investigative program premiered yesterday, I believe, on PBS stations. It offers some information and heartbreaking personal stories I was not previously fully aware of:

The Virus: What Went Wrong? (full film) | FRONTLINE

As *********-19 spread across the globe, why was the U.S. caught so unprepared? An investigation of how America’s leaders failed to prepare and protect us — and ...

www.youtube.com

 

[Susan1]

Looks like a 48 to me.

Meanwhile "The governor identified counties with “worrisome” trends as Montgomery, Greene, Warren and Clark,"

So where we live, where we work and where the few people we have seen socially live and work. Wonderful.

Nothing on t.v.....

Thanks. The only one that was too blurry to read, huh? And I posted the "worrisome" zip codes up thread. Just tell them to stay in their zip codes. I know, they can't. I go from 45342 through 45449 to 45439 (I know it cause it used to be mine) just to go to the big Kroger 10 minutes away. 45459 is a couple blocks away from there.

Hate to sound like a trumper, but hospitalizations are pretty flat. Cuyahoga has had the most with 1,308, Montgomery is 7th with "only (comparatively)" 229, Butler is 8th with 200, and the rest of the 88 counties go down from there. Two don't have any, and they've only got 15 total cases between them. (I love sorting.)

Cases really could be up because of testing, especially in nursing homes. I checked, as of yesterday, Montgomery County has had 17 residents and 21 staff positives in all of the long term facilities (14 and 9 in just one of them). And none of them are in Miamisburg - big Sycamore complex, and Heartland, that just added a three story senior apartment building. And Kingston. That's a lot of old people. I hope they stay out of my Kroger. ha ha Except they aren't the ones that are sick. People in their 60s have the highest percentage of hospitalizations at 22%, followed by 70s, 80+ then 50s. 111 hospitalizations are under 20 years old. I wish they would bring up the numbers who are out of the hospital.

Back to nursing homes - Clark has 28 residents and 9 staff in just one of their facilities, plus others. Warren has 46 and 18 in just one, plus others. Greene's only got 2 and 8 altogether though. And the people who work at nursing homes go home and shopping and stuff before they know they are sick.

The numbers were from May 25 to June 7 though, so maybe people just went berserk over Memorial Day. He didn't mention contact tracing today. The briefing was less than an hour. I forgot about the Montgomery County thing. They didn't talk about it on the news. I'll read about it tomorrow. I think I can go to bed now.

 

[Dobre]

Texas's school plan & a difference of opinion:

Back To School For Real? Texas Officials Say Yes
https://tinyurl.com/yc6z7ecr

Teacher associations in Texas say ‘hell no’ to education official’s plans to reopen campuses in fall
https://www.ksat.com/news/local/202...n-officials-plans-to-reopen-campuses-in-fall/

 

[manhn]

Sweden just passed 5,000 deaths.

 

[manhn]

I went to a bank branch today to open an account for my dad's estate. The branch itself is open for limited hours and has social distancing marked out all over the floor, plus plexiglass shields in front of every teller. I wore a mask, as did the security guards out front and the staff, but I was really surprised that almost none of the customers had a mask.

I had an appointment with an account manager, and we met in a conference room instead of her office. She brought hand sanitizer with her, and we sat at opposite ends of the table. And she gave me a new pen to sign documents, and I took the pen with me.

The account manager told me that almost every day, at the time when the branch closes, the manager has to go out in front and settle arguments with non-masked customers. These customers are in the line-up to get in and are giving the security guards a hard time about not being allowed into the branch. Even though these customers usually show up after the closing time.....

I am not particularly sympathetic with banks. Closing branches and limiting hours, resulting in HUGE lines at the few remaining branches. I fail to understand why they are doing this for ********* reasons. I have to bank for work reasons so am familiar with their new hours. But for regular customers who come every once in awhile, they can be surprised by the new hours.