Let's Talk Movies #36 - 2020 - Yep it is a new decade

Here is the preview for "Misty Green." This woman is one of the stars of "Slow Horses." I don't know anything about her but she commands the screen in that show.

 
FWIW I liked it a lot. The two leads, Blunt and O’Connor, are terrific and my permanent crush Colin Firth is definitely relishing playing a bad guy these days. It’s actually a hopeful movie. Go see it.
I watched Disclosure Day today Very interesting. I have always had an interest in ET. The two main characters were really good. I almost didn’t recognize Colin Firth in that role (Noah Scranton). I had never heard of the actress who plays Jane.
The ending was surprising.
 
Now I want to see Odysee in the next few days But I want to see it on the big screen, like IMax
 
Here is a preview (violence warning) of "By Any Means" starring Mark Wahlberg. Not a Wahlberg fan and not a fan of violence in general but I did hear about this chapter of the Civil Rights Movement. When Civil Rights supporters/workers started disappearing Hoover sent a known Mafia contract killer down to Mississippi to help find them when normal investigative channels failed: Ouch.

 
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I have to admit I will probably wait to see it. I can't say I've ever been very impressed with with Christopher Nolan as script writer (except "The Dark Knight," which he only was partially responsible for scripting) as compared to his ability to bring amazing visuals to the screen.
IMO, the visuals and spectacle are really the main reason to see this movie, along with an appreciation for a whole lot of fight scenes. I thought the script was really weak.
I saw The Odyssey yesterday, not in 70 mm IMAX, but the visuals were still the best part IMO. I didn't love the score, but the script was weaker. I don't have any problem with American accented English vs British, but I just felt like the language was too colloquial and was jarringly dissonant with the epic narrative and visual scale. The performances therefore seemed like a lot of emoting without much weight.

I don't think it was just the colloquial language. The dialog in general was just weak. I usually think that Matt Damon is a pretty good actor, but I thought his performance was not very good. I didn't think any of them were very good, except for maybe Anne Hathaway. I think a lot of the reason for the unimpressive acting was because of the script.

You kind of needed Matt Damon to explain what happened to Calypso and sum up the moral of the story at the end, which really shouldn't be necessary in a movie this long. It was a bit of story added to a whole lot of visuals and fighting. Not great storytelling. But, I think that people who are seeing the movie for the visuals appreciate it. (I saw it with a group of people, and it was the ones who really just wanted an action adventure movie who liked it.)
The film has inspired me to read The Odyssey again, though, so that's a success.
Meh. It didn't even do that for me. I haven't read it since college, so I wasn't really even comparing the movie that much to the text, though what he did with the Trojan horse was odd and the role of the gods seemed kind of watered down.
 
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My husband wants to see The Odyssey, so I guess we will go at some point, but I am not excited. I have watched several Nolan films now (Oppenheimer, The Prestige, Inception) and fail to see what the big deal is. There is a certain self-congratulatory, pompous white-male-on-a-mission aesthetic to his oeuvre (and the reaction to it) that I find annoying.

But, speaking of white-male-on-a-mission movies, we did watch Project Hail Mary, after seeing Mark Kelly recommend it as one of his favorite space movies. And I did enjoy it a lot! As with his Ken, Ryan Gosling was so willing here to make himself goofy and idiosyncratic onscreen that I couldn't help but like his character.
 
My husband wants to see The Odyssey, so I guess we will go at some point, but I am not excited. I have watched several Nolan films now (Oppenheimer, The Prestige, Inception) and fail to see what the big deal is. There is a certain self-congratulatory, pompous white-male-on-a-mission aesthetic to his oeuvre (and the reaction to it) that I find annoying.

But, speaking of white-male-on-a-mission movies, we did watch Project Hail Mary, after seeing Mark Kelly recommend it as one of his favorite space movies. And I did enjoy it a lot! As with his Ken, Ryan Gosling was so willing here to make himself goofy and idiosyncratic onscreen that I couldn't help but like his character.
The best thing about Project Hail Mary was that the Gosling character didn’t want to be a hero and was basically shipped off against his will. There was humor and feeling in his scenes with Rocky (and how hard is it to play against a CGI rock??)

There is no humor in Nolan films, he takes himself Very Seriously. I think your WhiteMan on a Mission describes it perfectly. Even Interstellar, which I did like, was pompous in its own way.
 
But, speaking of white-male-on-a-mission movies, we did watch Project Hail Mary, after seeing Mark Kelly recommend it as one of his favorite space movies. And I did enjoy it a lot! As with his Ken, Ryan Gosling was so willing here to make himself goofy and idiosyncratic onscreen that I couldn't help but like his character.
Andy Weir, who wrote the book that the movie was based on, has a good sense of humor. (I highly recommend the book, including the audiobook.) I already had read the book when I heard that Gosling was cast for it, and I thought he would be great for the part.

Andy Weir also wrote the novel The Martian, though not the screenplay. I thought Matt Damon did a much better job in that movie than in The Odyssey. I don't know if the difference was the script, the directing, or the fact the Matt's own personality is better suited to the charact in The Martian.
 
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The best thing about Project Hail Mary was that the Gosling character didn’t want to be a hero and was basically shipped off against his will. There was humor and feeling in his scenes with Rocky (and how hard is it to play against a CGI rock??)
Fun fact, Rocky, and pretty much all the sets, including the ship, are all practical effects. Rocky is a puppet and the voice for Rocky is the puppeteer they hired for him because they liked his work so much. Lord & Miller didn't want to make a CGI fest so they built pretty much everything.
 
It seems that Mondays are when the critics see the upcoming films in special “press showings”.

Some critics are already posting spoiler free reviews of Spider-Man: Brand New Day.
Apparently, it’s really good, looks stunning in Dolby, but felt a tad too long.
 
Andy Weir, who wrote the book that the movie was based on, has a good sense of humor.
I'm surprised to hear that. My favorite podcast, 372 Pages We'll Never Get Back, had Weir's Artemis as one of their featured bad books a while back, and absolutely shredded it. I concede that I did not read along with them, so I can't offer any firsthand critique, but the excerpts and descriptions they gave sounded dreadful.

Nevertheless, I'll probably check out the Hail Mary film at some point just to see what all the fuss is about. I do like Ryan Gosling.
 
I'm surprised to hear that. My favorite podcast, 372 Pages We'll Never Get Back, had Weir's Artemis as one of their featured bad books a while back, and absolutely shredded it. I concede that I did not read along with them, so I can't offer any firsthand critique, but the excerpts and descriptions they gave sounded dreadfu
I think Artemis is widely regarded as the weakest of Andy Weir's books, and I haven't read it. But, Project Hail Mary is an incredibly popular book among both critics and readers. It has a 4.7 rating on Amazon and a 4.9 rating on Audible. I like the movie, but like the book even more, and I'm not usually a sci-fi person. The Ryland Grace character absolutely is Weir's creation. The plot and the relationship between Grace and Rocky are more developed in the book. Weir puts a lot of science in his sci-fi, which may be one of the reasons former astronaut Mark Kelly likes it, but it's not dry IMO. The book is very entertaining.

Here's a talk Weir gave to people at Lawrence Livermore. You can see where the sense of humor comes from for his characters in both Project Hail Mary and The Martian:

 
I loved The Odyssey. But I thought Damon lacked the malice and intelligence that Odysseus is supposed to have. Damon was too bland.

I liked the other performances. Especially Hathaway.

Agreed. I liked The Odyssey but I thought it was missing the wit of the poem and that had a long to do with Damon’s performance. He felt more like a standard action hero to me than Odysseus. I agree that all the other performances were good. Hathaway and Leguizamo were standouts to me.
 
For one thing, he didn't want one.
Biopic is usually made after the person is long gone. It doesn't matter that Astaire didn't want one on his life. If Hollywood sees a chance to make money from a Fred Astaire biopic then they will make one.
 

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