JGP Linz - Women's SP & FS

Cleo1782

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Muravieva

I just hate spoken words. Stop it!

2a
3r great lift on this jump
3f-2t
3z-3t nicely timed to music
3f-1r-3s
3z
looks like I missed a jumping pass

artistically interesting and good technique. Well done.
She did 2A's for her first 2 passes.
 

tony

But it just doesn't fcuking glide
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If the Russian choreographers would just tone it down a little bit, I think most of these programs would be really great. This was excellent (and I really enjoy her), but Russia especially with the women turned choreography into the equivalent of a gymnastics beam routine - a bunch of arm movements just thrown in that most of the time look out of place. I know the IJS asks for 'transitions' but seeing a held, strong, fast edge out of a jump or some kind of complex edge work that actually makes sense is just so much better and wouldn't give the programs that jerky, disjointed quality.
 

alchemy void

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If the Russian choreographers would just tone it down a little bit, I think most of these programs would be really great. This was excellent (and I really enjoy her), but Russia especially with the women turned choreography into the equivalent of a gymnastics beam routine - a bunch of arm movements just thrown in that most of the time look out of place. I know the IJS asks for 'transitions' but seeing a held, strong, fast edge out of a jump or some kind of complex edge work that actually makes sense is just so much better and wouldn't give the programs that jerky, disjointed quality.
Totally agree. I hereby rescind the Debbie Downer GIF after this comment.
 

zoe111

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Muravieva RUS

2A
2A quality
3Lo
3F+2T
3Lz+3T right on the thunder/gunshot
3F+1Eu+3S
3Lz woah, great
Unnecessary gunshot to end

Definitely my favorite Russian junior this season. Clutch skate, the program works, but not to the level of her Celine Dion SP.
i thought Muravieva was great. incredible speed and flow in and out of the jumps. A much stronger skater than Levito for sure. Really glad she's going to the final
 

mjb52

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Maybe because I was a serious teen and sometimes felt pushed to change my personality to please others (never!), some of these comments on the Russian girls, even though they come from a good place, bug me a bit. We've seen that the smilie faces on the Americans didn't always mean things were ok - I think it's good to be concerned about whether Russia is making sure their coaches are using ok methods but I don't like what feels like judging kids for their expressions/personalities and it comes up a lot here.
 

alchemy void

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Please don't let the ending JGP montage get me emotional.
Please don't let the ending JGP montage get me emotional.
Please don't let the ending JGP montage get me emotional.
 

alchemy void

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Maybe because I was a serious teen and sometimes felt pushed to change my personality to please others (never!), some of these comments on the Russian girls, even though they come from a good place, bug me a bit. We've seen that the smilie faces on the Americans didn't always mean things were ok - I think it's good to be concerned about whether Russia is making sure their coaches are using ok methods but I don't like what feels like judging kids for their expressions/personalities and it comes up a lot here.
Agreed.
 

rfisher

Let the skating begin
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Maybe because I was a serious teen and sometimes felt pushed to change my personality to please others (never!), some of these comments on the Russian girls, even though they come from a good place, bug me a bit. We've seen that the smilie faces on the Americans didn't always mean things were ok - I think it's good to be concerned about whether Russia is making sure their coaches are using ok methods but I don't like what feels like judging kids for their expressions/personalities and it comes up a lot here.
ITA and some of these kids are just very serious or very introverted. Smiles really don't mean anything.
 

her grace

standing with Mariah
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If the Russian choreographers would just tone it down a little bit, I think most of these programs would be really great. This was excellent (and I really enjoy her), but Russia especially with the women turned choreography into the equivalent of a gymnastics beam routine - a bunch of arm movements just thrown in that most of the time look out of place. I know the IJS asks for 'transitions' but seeing a held, strong, fast edge out of a jump or some kind of complex edge work that actually makes sense is just so much better and wouldn't give the programs that jerky, disjointed quality.

Agreed. Also, the judges have lost sight of what makes a good jump. We focus on complete rotation on landing, but ignore hammering toe picks, pre-rotation, lack of height, lack of distance, and weak exiting edges. +5 GOE, anyone?
 

Sylvia

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Junior Women
Result
FPl. Name Nation Points SP FS

GOLD Sofia MURAVIEVA RUS 211.81 1 1
SILVER Isabeau LEVITO USA 208.31 2 2
BRONZE Anastasia ZININA RUS 190.66 3 3
4 Niina PETROKINA EST 177.06 6 4
5 Varvara KISEL BLR 175.91 4 5
6 Kate WANG USA 169.73 5 6
7 Siwoo SONG KOR 157.01 10 7
8 Chaebin HWANG KOR 155.32 8 8
9 Janna JYRKINEN FIN 147.76 17 9
10 Sara-Maude DUPUIS CAN 143.54 7 10
11 Boin MOON KOR 139.11 9 12
12 Mariia SENIUK ISR 136.27 12 13
13 Mariia ANDRIICHUK UKR 134.13 13 14
14 Regina SCHERMANN HUN 131.92 20 11
15 Emelie LING SWE 130.37 14 16
16 Emily SAARI AUT 127.57 18 17
17 Julia van DIJK NED 126.93 15 18
18 Julija LOVRENCIC SLO 122.33 19 20
19 Chiara HRISTOVA BUL 121.50 26 15
20 Dorotea LEITGEB AUT 120.72 24 19
21 Linnea Sophie Kolstad KILSAND NOR 117.10 11 26
22 Weronika FERLIN POL 116.42 23 22
23 Aya HATAKAWA GER 112.02 21 23
24 Vlada VASILIEV AUS 110.48 22 24
25 Karolina BIALAS POL 109.37 31 21
26 Sofja STEPCENKO LAT 106.64 16 31
27 Yan-Yi LIN TPE 104.34 30 25
28 Jasmin ELSEBAIE AUT 102.52 25 29
29 Ana Sofia BESCHEA ROU 101.38 27 28
30 Hana CVIJANOVIC CRO 101.34 28 27
31 Gemma MARSHALL LUX 97.60 29 30
32 Paula MARGARIDO PEREIRA AND 89.70 32 32
33 Elizabeth GOLDING IRL 77.74 34 33
34 Skye Frances PATENIA PHI 76.51 33 34
35 Jana KUKOVSKA MKD 59.40 35 35
WD Zara HUSEDZINOVIC BIH
Anna PEZZETTA ITA
Danica DJORDJEVIC SRB

FS protocols: http://www.isuresults.com/results/s...OR----FNL-000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Pl. NameNationTSS
=
TES
+
PCS
+
SSTRPECOINDed.
-
StN.
1​
Sofia MURAVIEVARUS
138.53​
74.25​
64.28​
8.04​
7.82​
8.14​
8.00​
8.18​
0.00​
#35​
2​
Isabeau LEVITOUSA
136.99​
73.56​
63.43​
7.79​
7.82​
8.04​
7.89​
8.11​
0.00​
#34​
3​
Anastasia ZININARUS
120.89​
65.83​
58.06​
7.43​
7.04​
7.18​
7.25​
7.39​
3.00​
#33​
4​
Niina PETROKINAEST
118.09​
62.83​
55.26​
6.86​
6.75​
7.04​
6.89​
7.00​
0.00​
#30​
5​
Varvara KISELBLR
113.57​
62.94​
50.63​
6.64​
6.04​
6.43​
6.25​
6.29​
0.00​
#32​
6​
Kate WANGUSA
109.63​
58.84​
50.79​
6.54​
6.21​
6.39​
6.32​
6.29​
0.00​
#31​
7​
Siwoo SONGKOR
106.27​
56.97​
49.30​
6.14​
6.07​
6.21​
6.21​
6.18​
0.00​
#26​
8​
Chaebin HWANGKOR
103.04​
53.69​
50.35​
6.25​
6.14​
6.43​
6.29​
6.36​
1.00​
#28​
9​
Janna JYRKINENFIN
102.12​
56.58​
45.54​
5.82​
5.50​
5.75​
5.68​
5.71​
0.00​
#19​
10​
Sara-Maude DUPUISCAN
90.14​
43.08​
48.06​
6.07​
5.82​
6.00​
6.04​
6.11​
1.00​
#29​
11​
Regina SCHERMANNHUN
87.74​
45.19​
43.55​
5.54​
5.36​
5.36​
5.57​
5.39​
1.00​
#16​
12​
Boin MOONKOR
87.00​
40.62​
48.38​
6.14​
5.96​
5.89​
6.14​
6.11​
2.00​
#27​
13​
Mariia SENIUKISR
86.42​
48.50​
38.92​
5.25​
4.64​
4.86​
4.79​
4.79​
1.00​
#24​
14​
Mariia ANDRIICHUKUKR
85.50​
47.10​
40.40​
5.46​
5.07​
4.86​
5.07​
4.79​
2.00​
#23​
15​
Chiara HRISTOVABUL
83.51​
45.06​
38.45​
5.18​
4.68​
4.82​
4.71​
4.64​
0.00​
#10​
16​
Emelie LINGSWE
82.29​
36.09​
47.20​
5.93​
5.79​
5.75​
5.96​
6.07​
1.00​
#22​
17​
Emily SAARIAUT
82.19​
41.60​
41.59​
5.43​
5.00​
5.21​
5.14​
5.21​
1.00​
#18​
18​
Julia van DIJKNED
80.06​
39.57​
41.49​
5.39​
5.11​
5.07​
5.18​
5.18​
1.00​
#21​
19​
Dorotea LEITGEBAUT
79.74​
39.58​
40.16​
5.07​
4.82​
5.11​
4.96​
5.14​
0.00​
#12​
20​
Julija LOVRENCICSLO
78.14​
41.20​
39.94​
5.14​
4.82​
4.93​
5.04​
5.04​
3.00​
#17​
21​
Karolina BIALASPOL
76.68​
38.62​
38.06​
4.93​
4.61​
4.64​
4.79​
4.82​
0.00​
#5​
22​
Weronika FERLINPOL
74.88​
39.67​
36.21​
4.75​
4.39​
4.46​
4.57​
4.46​
1.00​
#13​
23​
Aya HATAKAWAGER
68.94​
29.54​
42.40​
5.50​
5.29​
5.00​
5.46​
5.25​
3.00​
#15​
24​
Vlada VASILIEVAUS
68.51​
36.05​
35.46​
4.64​
4.32​
4.32​
4.50​
4.39​
3.00​
#14​
25​
Yan-Yi LINTPE
68.30​
34.44​
33.86​
4.39​
4.14​
4.18​
4.32​
4.14​
0.00​
#6​
26​
Linnea Sophie Kolstad KILSANDNOR
66.97​
28.62​
40.35​
5.29​
5.11​
4.82​
5.07​
4.93​
2.00​
#25​
27​
Hana CVIJANOVICCRO
64.29​
29.78​
36.51​
4.71​
4.32​
4.61​
4.54​
4.64​
2.00​
#8​
28​
Ana Sofia BESCHEAROU
64.01​
31.38​
34.63​
4.43​
4.29​
4.32​
4.29​
4.32​
2.00​
#9​
29​
Jasmin ELSEBAIEAUT
62.49​
28.60​
36.89​
4.54​
4.61​
4.61​
4.68​
4.61​
3.00​
#11​
30​
Gemma MARSHALLLUX
61.22​
28.24​
34.98​
4.50​
4.25​
4.43​
4.32​
4.36​
2.00​
#7​
31​
Sofja STEPCENKOLAT
60.48​
30.03​
36.45​
4.79​
4.57​
4.25​
4.64​
4.54​
6.00​
#20​
32​
Paula MARGARIDO PEREIRAAND
57.12​
25.51​
31.61​
4.11​
3.75​
3.96​
4.00​
3.93​
0.00​
#4​
33​
Elizabeth GOLDINGIRL
52.58​
21.88​
30.70​
4.18​
3.61​
3.86​
3.82​
3.71​
0.00​
#2​
34​
Skye Frances PATENIAPHI
48.91​
20.55​
29.36​
3.89​
3.50​
3.68​
3.71​
3.57​
1.00​
#3​
35​
Jana KUKOVSKAMKD
35.51​
14.06​
23.45​
3.04​
2.86​
2.86​
2.96​
2.93​
2.00​
#1​
 

Sylvia

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Single Men and Women
i) The 7 winners of each individual ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Event will qualify for the Final.
ii) Should there only be 6 different individual winners out of the 7 individual ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Events because a Skater has won 2 ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Events, the 6 different individual winners will qualify for the Final.
iii) Should there be fewer than 6 different individual winners out of the 7 individual ISU Junior Grand Prix of Figure Skating Events because more Skaters have won 2 JGP Events, all the different individual winners will qualify for the Final. In addition, the best 2nd placed Skater(s), 3rd placed Skater(s) and so forth by total score, who are not yet qualified as a winner, would be invited to the Final to reach the number of 6 entries.
iv) Japan as the host Member will be granted 1 Wild Card Entry for Men and for Women.
Qualified for JGP Final:
Sofia AKATEVA RUS - 233.08 JGP Krasnoyarsk (gold); 225.64 JGP Gdansk Baltic Cup (gold)
Veronika ZHILINA RUS - 216.92 JGP Kosice (gold); did not compete in a 2nd JGP reportedly due to an ankle injury
Sofia MURAVIEVA RUS - 211.81 JGP Linz (gold); 208.25 JGP Kosice (silver)
Adeliia PETROSIAN RUS - 210.57 JGP Ljubljana Cup (gold); 201.21 JGP Kosice (bronze)
Isabeau LEVITO USA - 208.31 JGP Linz (silver); 202.35 JGP Courchevel 2 (gold)
Lindsay THORNGREN USA - 181.45 JGP Courchevel 1 (gold); 193.77 JGP Ljubljana Cup (bronze)
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Next highest JGP total scores of non-gold medalists:
206.20 Anastasia ZININA RUS JGP Krasnoyarsk (silver); 190.66 JGP Linz (bronze)
205.67 Sofia SAMODELKINA RUS JGP Ljubljana Cup (silver); 202.39 JGP Krasnoyarsk (bronze)
196.83 Elizaveta KULIKOVA RUS JGP Krasnoyarsk (4th)
196.07 Elizaveta BERESTOVSKAIA RUS JGP Krasnoyarsk (5th)
 

Frau Muller

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Well, Russia does it again!!! Muravieva takes gold in grand style. Not easy after Levito's fab skate.

Akatieva all the way for Gold is OSAKA at the Finals! Levito and Petrosian for podium!

Hope that Zhilina is not as injured as was reported earlier. if she cannot do it then I guess that Zinina is in?

Wow - Lindsay Thorngren is one lucky woman! Hey, we'll take it any way.
 

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