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James Comey Fired

Discussion in 'Politically Incorrect' started by debo, May 9, 2017.

  1. Reuven

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  2. Vagabond

    Vagabond Well-Known Member

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    I recommend applying SMART criteria.
     
  3. skatesindreams

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    Trump, and his legal team, need to be reminded that neither Presidents Nixon nor Clinton were "above the law" while in office.
     
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  4. ballettmaus

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    That's different. ;)
     
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  5. Vash01

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    That's encouraging, but who is BiBi?
     
  6. ballettmaus

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    The only one I can think of is Netanyahu.
     
  7. Vash01

    Vash01 Fan of Yuzuru, Medvedeva, T&M, Shibs, P&C

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    I too thought of him but I can't figure out why he was mentioned.
     
  8. ballettmaus

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    Apparently, Trump is considering recognizing Jerusalem as Israel's capital and moving the embassy again. https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...a0619edfa05_story.html?utm_term=.5e90c2e67ae5

    I doubt that he is "mindful" and that he cares about what that means. Or that he even understands what that means. Otherwise, he wouldn't do it.
     
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  11. ballettmaus

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    Junior was interviewed by the House Intel Committee today https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...r-925pm:homepage/story&utm_term=.064e2d2ad24a

    :huh: By his logic, each of the conversations anyone ever has in the presence of a lawyer would be covered by privilege then?
     
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  12. skatingguy

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    He also doesn't seem understand that attorney-client privilege applies to the attorney and not the client.
     
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  13. ballettmaus

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    I've seen several comments that attorney-client privilege has been ruled to have been negated when a third person was present, too. Another comment I've seen is that Congress doesn't recognize attorney-client privilege. No idea if this is true.
    Either way, Congress is making such a joke out of the matter. A bunch of them are lawyers. They should know if a conversation that happens between a son and father with an attorney present is attorney-client privilege or not and they should have acted accordingly. How many members of the Trump campaign/transistion that they have interviewed have lied without any consequences already? :(

    And they impeached Clinton for perjury about an affair he's had.
     
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  14. ballettmaus

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  15. Vagabond

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    The attorney-client privilege protects the client and not the attorney. It doesn't, however, apply if (1) the person claiming the privilege wasn't using the attorney for advice or legal representation, (2) another person was present, or (3) attorney was being used in the furtherance of a crime.
     
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  16. skatesindreams

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    Donald, Jr, is trying to use the privilege to not reveal conversations between himself and his father.

    Neither one of them are attorneys.
    How would it apply to either of them, in any case?
     
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  17. Fiero425

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    Trump attacks anything and everything if it isn't promoting him! If there's any criticism, he will go juvenile with name calling and trying to undermine the institution! Because of his attack on the FBI, talking about the agency being demoralized and needing of a shake-up, the new Director, Chris Wray has to go before Congressional committee today to discuss it! Trump's such a tool! Look at the Palestinians revolt due to his announcement about Jerusalem the new home of our embassy! He couldn't care less that turmoil would ensue! :scream: :COP: :kickass: :lynch: :mitchell: :revenge:
     
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    It just proves the entire family are as bonkers as once thought! Everyone knows there is no such privilege! Even if an attorney is involved, a 3rd party in the room breaks privilege! I think they all need straight-jackets! :rolleyes: :COP: :kickass:
     
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  19. Vagabond

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    If they had the same attorney and were discussing what was said in confidential communication between one of them and that attorney, it would be privileged.
     
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  20. Fiero425

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    The only thing is, Trump, Jr. wasn't and isn't part of the admin.! The privilege still dies! That's what Trump gets for allowing his family carte blanche to run around the West Wing like they owned the fk'n place! The whole damn family needs to go down! I have no sympathy for these jerks using the Presidency like their own private piggy bank! The tax returns will blow this whole thing up when it's found that $300M loan thought thru Deutsche Bank is in the hands of Putin! :rolleyes: :COP: :kickass:
     
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  21. MacMadame

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    Yes, for the attorney. Not for the clients. They can say whatever they want.
     
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  22. ballettmaus

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    But it is described as a conversation between father and son (Junior told Daddy Dearest about the meeting) and a lawyer was said to have been present.


    Apparently, there was a follow-up to the Trump Tower meeting in June 2016 even though Junior had previously said there wasn't. That damn amnesia again ;) http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/07/polit...d-emails-after-trump-tower-meeting/index.html
     
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  23. Fiero425

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    They're all toast even with this corrupt and hypocritical Republican Congress! Continuing to drag Muellers name thru the mud isn't going to help Trump; even if fired, the work will continue to bring down this bubblehead! If they try to smooth this over like they did investigating of Nunez, the Dems will flip and the whole place will be up for grabs! :rolleyes: :scream: :kickass:
     
  24. Vagabond

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    Not if the attorney was representing father and son, which is possible. The father has private attorneys, like John Dowd, representing him even now.
    Of course, the client can say whatever he wants. But the point of the privilege is that the client doesn't have to say anything. (Assuming it applies in the first place.)
    And if the lawyer represented both of them, the privilege would still attach.

    :COP:
     
  25. skatingguy

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    I guess it would depend on who the lawyer was, and what the lawyer's working relationship is to the Trumps.
     
  26. caseyedwards

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    It’s the same thing with sessions not talking even though trump hasn’t claimed executive privilege. They are twisting it so brutally! Sessions always says he can’t talk because he doesn’t know if trump would claim it’s executive privilege material.

    I see trump and Trump Jr similarly. He says he can’t say anything trump says because he was also talking to his lawyer so anything he said would be privelaged and even though he is not a lawyer it would be wrong for anyone who overheard conversation between a lawyer and their client to talk about it! Then he adds his lawyer was their too so it’s all private. BIZARRE PEOPLE!!!
     
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  28. Vagabond

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  29. skatingguy

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    Don't be silly - those things are only true when your talking about Hillary Clinton - if you're talking about Donald Trump then it's fake news. ;)
    On a serious note, the ability to say one thing one day, and then turn around and say the exact opposite thing the next and not be held accountable for it is a very disturbing development.
     
  30. MacMadame

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    No, that's not what attorney-client privilege is. If the client doesn't want to say anything, they plead the 5th. They can plead the 5th regardless of whether they've told the answer to question to an attorney.

    Attorney-client privilege only applies to attorneys.