IOC lifts ban on Belarus, ban on Russia continues

[Prancer]

Why should she. She has the same diagnosis as Biles, made it herself a public knowledge. It's safe to assume she has the same TUE as Biles because that is how their diagnosis is treated.

Is it?

Biles proved in Tokyo that without her light meth she can't really compete. If the OC 2026 had been in Tokyo, Alysa might have had the same "success" as Biles. They are both fakes.

We all have opinions.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

You know, some of us here have the same diagnosis as Simone and aren’t actually enjoying having an ignorant troll assuming that ADHD is treated the same for all people or implying that we’re all on street drugs.

 

[coppertop1]

The Russian trolls are so predictable. It's always about whining in some way above the about Americans and the Big bad West . It's so tiresome.

 

[Rukia]

I'm sorry to sidetrack here, but Simone and Team USA have both said she hadn't been on ADHD medication since 2017. So hateful rhetoric aside, that's just a patently false claim.

 

[coppertop1]

I'm sorry to sidetrack here, but Simone and Team USA have both said she hadn't been on ADHD medication since 2017. So hateful rhetoric aside, that's just a patently false claim.

And she has a TUE. If they Russians have any legitimate condition, they shouldn't get one. Nothing stopping them.

 

[Prancer]

I'm sorry to sidetrack here, but Simone and Team USA have both said she hadn't been on ADHD medication since 2017. So hateful rhetoric aside, that's just a patently false claim.

And there is no evidence that Alysa takes medication or has a TUE.

I'd say it's on the person making the claim to provide actual evidence. If we are quoting the Bible, I would say that the Ninth Commandment applies here.

 

[PRlady]

The “light meth” label was invented by Russian propagandists because they really couldn’t refute how many of their athletes were on illegal substances. We unfortunately have attracted one of their pods. Don’t feed it.

 

[taz'smum]

You know, some of us here have the same diagnosis as Simone and aren’t actually enjoying having an ignorant troll assuming that ADHD is treated the same for all people or implying that we’re all on street drugs.

Well said fellow ADHDer!

I don't personally take any meds but support those who do.
I get by on Lion's Mane, Ashwagandha, and lots of exercise!

Ignore the troll.

 

[coppertop1]

Well said fellow ADHDer!

I don't personally take any meds but support those who do.
I get by on Lion's Mane, Ashwagandha, and lots of exercise!

Ignore the troll.

As a fellow neurodivergent with ADHD. I agree. The trolls are showing their ignorance. Not everyone with ADHD needs medication. That doesn't mean you don't have it.
My biggest problem with Russia is exactly this. Not just the doping but the gaslighting and constantly playing the victim for getting caught. The Valieva doping scandal was the height of all the ugliness.

 

[taz'smum]

As a fellow neurodivergent with ADHD. I agree. The trolls are showing their ignorance. Not everyone with ADHD needs medication. That doesn't mean you don't have it.
My biggest problem with Russia is exactly this. Not just the doping but the gaslighting and constantly playing the victim for getting caught. The Valieva doping scandal was the height of all the ugliness.

Great to know there are ADHDers on FSU!
I'm currently well into writing a book where the main character just happens to have ADHD. It's not central to the plot though.

 

[SakuraHere]

I'd say it's on the person making the claim to provide actual evidence.

Assumption is not a claim. Both "Alysa on light meth" or "She is not" are assumptions.Why one assumption is over another.
That's the whole point with WADA. It's a closed organisation with closed for public data unless Russian hackers tell us the truth. WADA should be abolished and a new organisation shall be established, with new rules, documentations, the one that actually cares about athletes' health and not about politics.

 

[PRlady]

In other words, in the immortal words of JD Vance, the Russians are creating stories to make their (non-existent) point.

 

[SakuraHere]

Russians are back!

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-provisionally-lifts-suspension-of-russian-olympic-committee-recommendations-to-ifs-with-regard-to-russian-athletes-participation-no-longer-applicable

 

[skatfan]

IOC makes a decision:

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/news/ioc-provisionally-lifts-suspension-of-russian-olympic-committee-recommendations-to-ifs-with-regard-to-russian-athletes-participation-no-longer-applicable

 

[Lanie]

Disgusting. I fully expect we will see doped athletes with dodgy technique winning again.

 

[flyingsit]

I guess I won’t be watching international competitions any longer.

 

[Prancer]

Assumption is not a claim. Both "Alysa on light meth" or "She is not" are assumptions.Why one assumption is over another.

An assumption is a claim that is not based on evidence.

If you really don't see anything morally or ethically wrong here, let's put it in legal terms.

If I publicly accuse you of taking drugs because I assume that it is so, I am accusing you of wrongful behavior based on nothing. This is, depending on how this information is being put forth, libel or slander.

If I don't make a public accusation that you are taking drugs because, regardless of what I might think, I recognize that I don't have any evidence, then I haven't libeled or slandered you.

That's because people recognize that it is morally and ethically wrong to make public allegations without having some evidence to back them up and that's why one assumption over the other.

If your point is that WADA is a corrupt organization, you can surely make that case with actual evidence.

I suggest moving on.

 

[Taso]

Disgusting. I fully expect we will see doped athletes with dodgy technique winning again.

And some dodgy silver medal and 10th places at Euros, Junior Worlds, and Worlds

 

[Wyliefan]

I just sent off a pretty blunt missive. You may wish to do the same.

https://www.olympics.com/ioc/contact-us

 

[SakuraHere]

ISU now with AIN stuff is like old farty idiots from the Internet. ISU don't have any legal grounds anymore for AIN. One more proof that it's not a sport organisation but a rentier.

 

[cholla]

That's the whole point with WADA. It's a closed organisation with closed for public data unless Russian hackers tell us the truth

No, it's not. It's not up to WADA to disclose data but to its national agencies and they do it according to the rules of their respective countries. In France AFLD discloses everything on its website once the sanction has been decided. It's not the case in Germany or the US for instance, according to their own rules. Check your facts before posting. No need for Russian hackers who should focus on what's happening in their home country, it'd keep them busy enough.

 

[Karen-W]

TASS is reporting that the ISU's position and current path forward with allowing Russian skaters to compete as AINs has not changed despite yesterday's decision by the IOC.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2074826878163034353

 

[victorskid]

I had wondered, when I heard about the IOC move, if the ISU leadership had decided to "get ahead of the curve". It sounds as if I might have been right.

 

[SakuraHere]

Even if they had, it was a stupid move in the first place. Now it's all gone now. There is absolutely no legal grounds for ISU to do what they are doing. And look how all fighters for "law" here immediately got quiet with nothing to say. Hypocrites.

 

[allezfred]

IOC lifts suspension and paves way for Russia to compete at LA 2028 Olympics

The International Olympic Committee has lifted a suspension on Russia that would allow athletes to compete for the nation at the 2028 Los Angeles Games

www.theguardian.com

Crucially, the IOC has also made it clear that individual sports and competitions have discretion to make their own decisions regarding Russia – with many sports expected to allow Russian teams and anthems to return long before the LA Games.

For now, though, Fifa and Uefa say there are no immediate plans to allow Russia’s club and national teams back into international competition. Last week World Athletics also upheld its decision to exclude Russian and Belarusian athletes from any international competition.

 

[PRlady]

I’m hoping the ISU will continue to respect Ukraine and Russia’s threatened neighbours as much as possible.

 

[cholla]

There is absolutely no legal grounds for ISU to do what they are doing.

So how come nobody's sueing them? The ISU isn't allmighty, anything it does without legal ground can be overturned and.or sanctionned. Ever heard of CAS? How come Russia and Belaruss don't press charges? Have they morphed into a bunch of masochistic losers now? Cause if what you say is true, that's what they are. Thank you for this beautiful demonstration proving exactly the contrary of what you intended