BittyBug
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FWIW I heard last fall from a very reliable source that RUS would be back this year so this has been in the works for a while.
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and/or real challengers in dance v. FB&C running away with the next four years
Why would they?Could Stepanova/Bukin or maybe Kaganovskaia/Nebraskov show up in Lake Placid in 1 month?
Oh, I'm not so sure about that. I expect a very heavy hand to be applied to the skaters who were on the 2022 Olympic team. In no way shape or form do I think we'll see Kamila Valieva competing internationally as an AIN.I'm betting the "neutral" part of AIN will turn out to be just as much of a joke in skating as it has been in gymnastics.
I suppose some people think StepBuk could challenge FBCiz. I think that's a pipe dream.Who do we imagine that is???
Indeed. Nothing has changed. Russia is still killing innocent civilians, including children.Thinking of Ukrainian athletes today.
That made me cry.Indeed. Nothing has changed. Russia is still killing innocent civilians, including children.

Richaud did choreography for some Russian skaters last season too... And Mishin's brought his skaters to France the past couple summers. It's been gradual, but these anecdotal signs you're pointing to don't hold up when even lightly poked.I guess you could even consider anecdotal stuff as hints-- Benoit Richaud going to Russia to choreograph programs for a number of skaters, Richaud's Peak Ice Camp in Europe has been full of Russian skaters and coaches this summer, from looking at their instagrams--Gummenik and Tuktamysheva are in the US this summer [Gummenik training longer with Arutyunyan in California, I would not be surprised to hear that he is staging programs there as well, Tuktamysheva even held a training seminar in Portland recently], Medvedeva's show on July 11th has a number of foreign flag skaters participating and I don't think foreign skaters have been doing Russian shows recently [foreign lineup is FB/C, Shaidorov, Hendrickx, M/B, A/R, Petrokina, Gubanova, P/S, Egadze].....
I guess it was all in front of this the whole time (along with what other sporting bodies have done)
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What a story.
The problem is, there were more than 100 Mashas in that school in southern Iran we bombed. Yes by mistake but they’re just as dead. Not to mention the Mashas dead in at least six other conflicts. I want to keep the Russians out too but the war-related rationale gets harder….

I just returned from a couple of weeks touring the Baltic countries. Much of our tour was focused on the struggle for freedom and independence in the Baltics from unwanted Soviet rule, amid lots of death and destruction. A tall high rise in downtown Vilnius (capital of Lithuania) currently displays a massive banner that says “Putin, The Hague is waiting for you.” I’m disgusted with the ISU and its cowardly decision.to Lithuania for precise, poignant reaction! Baltic states knows what really Russia is; each word in their message is not only a word but a messenger of truth.
My dear, it’s rather hard to discuss including or excluding Russians without alluding to the cause of their expulsion. See post immediately above. And whether the cause of expulsion has had its context changed is legitimate debate. PI isn’t a ghetto for everything everyone doesn’t want to think about.Would any admin care to tell this poster to take this to P.I., which is where it belongs?
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She posted it on her Instagram stories, here's a link, it should be up for another 12 hours.FS Gossips had this quote on Facebook from Eva-Lotta Kiibus about the ISU, but didn't give a source. Anyone know where it's from?
"Politically, we’re trying to make everything look ‘correct’ but morally we have zero balls and give in on pressure."
By reviving Trusova. Petrosian - we have seen her quads; Zakharova and Husutdinova are not yet 17, Muravieva is probably changing countries (she is sitting out the season), Dvoeglazova, I think, is not yet 17 as well?I wonder how the Russians will adapt to the new age limit. Their system was meant to exploit a lower age minimum.
In theory yes, though think they will attend an easier competitions visa wise. I would expect to see the Russians in Japan, Kazakhstan and Georgia challengers.Could Stepanova/Bukin or maybe Kaganovskaia/Nebraskov show up in Lake Placid in 1 month?
If I understood correctly - yes, they will get 2 quotas. What I didn't understand and it looks wage is whether BLR and RUS skaters are the same 'country' and get one spot for both countries, or does each country get a spot?Has anything been said on whether AIN will be able to get extra spots for future european and world championships? I know they will only have one spot this year, but if their skater is in the top ten will they get two spots?
(I know Worlds this year is up in the air due to Finland’s visa rules)
It's unclear. Here's what they say in the FAQ -Has anything been said on whether AIN will be able to get extra spots for future european and world championships? I know they will only have one spot this year, but if their skater is in the top ten will they get two spots?
(I know Worlds this year is up in the air due to Finland’s visa rules)
Will the quotas for these neutral athletes be applied equally to the status at the time athletes from Russia and Belarus were first ruled ineligible for competition?
Where quotas apply, the number of neutral athletes is determined by the same objective, results and ranking-based qualification mechanics that apply to all skaters. Because skaters affiliated with the ISU Members in Russia and Belarus have not accumulated recent results or world ranking points during their absence of more than three years, their initial quota allocation is calculated on that objective basis, in the same way as for any skater returning after a comparable period, rather than by reference to nationality.
The GP Announcement for Comeback skaters does not apply to ANY RUS or BLR skaters since the last time either country competed at Worlds was 2021.The GP Announcement for Comeback skaters only requires not having skated the previous season and has no language about the reason why:
“Skaters/Couples who were previously seeded (placed 1 to 6 within the past 4 years at an ISU Figure Skating World Championships) and subsequently did not participate in one or more competition seasons (i.e., do not have a previous season’s best score) will be given priority consideration to re-enter the Grand Prix for selection of up to 2 assignments if they commit in writing to participating in 2 Grand Prix events and if such return is announced and confirmed by the date of the annual Selection Meeting.”
This is sophistry, and you are too intelligent not to know it. The bombing of the girls' elementary school took place four years after the exclusion of Russian athletes from ISU competitions. It cannot be a cause of the expulsion.My dear, it’s rather hard to discuss including or excluding Russians without alluding to the cause of their expulsion.