Insurrectionists and subversives: Trump and his supporters (Thread for all things Trump)

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Capitol riot defendant flips to help prosecutors against Proud Boys​

 

Yazmeen

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Capitol riot defendant flips to help prosecutors against Proud Boys​

"Where we go one, we go all." Unless we're going to jail...
 

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An article about how Trump still dominates the GOP platform:

What if “real republicans” like Ryan romney bush Kasich etc hadn’t decided not to challenge Trump at all in 2020? There was no reason for so called real republicans to totally allow him to have a totally clear path to the nomination in 2020? There was no reason why paul Ryan not to run. No reason for Romney not to run. No reason for Kasich not to run. And they could all announce for 2024 right now. Yes he lost the general but he won 2 republican primaries- one of those completely unchallenged. Not challenging him helped him enormously! You had two very little known people. Sanford and some other guy. And maybe Weld? But where was Romney? Where was Jeb Bush? Where was Cindy McCain? Democrats. Ryan, Boehner, so many people! They all decided to vote Biden

Maybe because Romney ran on horrible evil racist self deportation and McCain chose palin?
 

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What if “real republicans” like Ryan romney bush Kasich etc hadn’t decided not to challenge Trump at all in 2020? There was no reason for so called real republicans to totally allow him to have a totally clear path to the nomination in 2020? There was no reason why paul Ryan not to run. No reason for Romney not to run. No reason for Kasich not to run. And they could all announce for 2024 right now. Yes he lost the general but he won 2 republican primaries- one of those completely unchallenged. Not challenging him helped him enormously! You had two very little known people. Sanford and some other guy. And maybe Weld? But where was Romney? Where was Jeb Bush? Where was Cindy McCain? Democrats. Ryan, Boehner, so many people! They all decided to vote Biden

Maybe because Romney ran on horrible evil racist self deportation and McCain chose palin?
ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? Somebody seriously primary him???? There wasn't even a Republican platform in 2020, just "whatever Donald wants" because they were so totally cowed by him and afraid to lose his "base" (and their own reelections). There wasn't a shot in hell that anyone would attempt to challenge him. It was Donald's party in 2020, and sadly, that remains.
 

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ARE YOU KIDDING ME???? Somebody seriously primary him???? There wasn't even a Republican platform in 2020, just "whatever Donald wants" because they were so totally cowed by him and afraid to lose his "base" (and their own reelections). There wasn't a shot in hell that anyone would attempt to challenge him. It was Donald's party in 2020, and sadly, that remains.
So what is their goal? Complain so much all trump voters stop being trump voters? Complain until they all die off? What’s the plan? If it’s not to try to win elections then I don’t get it? Why don’t they try. Romney won in 2012. Trump in 2016. What’s the real difference? It’s only 4 years. And now they only plan to stop contesting elections? Why?

So when is the new party forming if that’s their plan.

Romney won no problem. Republicans in utah loved him more
 

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Another Insurrectionist Arrested by FBI. He was at the Capitol Insurrection and was buying explosives to blow up an Amazon Web Services Center.
 

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What if “real republicans” like Ryan romney bush Kasich etc hadn’t decided not to challenge Trump at all in 2020? There was no reason for so called real republicans to totally allow him to have a totally clear path to the nomination in 2020? There was no reason why paul Ryan not to run. No reason for Romney not to run. No reason for Kasich not to run. And they could all announce for 2024 right now. Yes he lost the general but he won 2 republican primaries- one of those completely unchallenged.

In recent history, it is typical for there not to be "major" challengers to an incumbent president. I believe the line-they-tow is that it presents a united front, even if there is division in the background. Not to mention, the large amount of money, time, and political clout that gets wasted on challenging a "popular" incumbent.
 

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In recent history, it is typical for there not to be "major" challengers to an incumbent president. I believe the line-they-tow is that it presents a united front, even if there is division in the background. Not to mention, the large amount of money, time, and political clout that gets wasted on challenging a "popular" incumbent.
Most republicans didn’t want a United front. They were all about opposition to trump. Usually the presidents party has been United around the incumbent not most having extreme hatred for the incumbent. The republicans never United around trump. Romney especially. Kasich too. So they had every reason to run in 2020. They never supported Trump as did the overwhelming majority of establishment republicans. The whole bush family as well. This is what’s so confusing about them not running in 2020 and having not announced a run for 2024 yet too. Hogan, Baker, Kinzinger, Whitman’s, powell, etc etc etc. most elite republicans opposed Trump. So what’s the deal here? This isn’t normal. Ted kennedy endorsed Carter in 1976 and ran against him in 1980. Pat Buchanan supported bush in 1988 and ran against him in 1992. These are people who opposed Trump and who didn’t even run against him.

Trump was never popular. Identifying as republican in polls plunged. Now these people stayed registered as Republicans but didn’t identify as republicans but still could have voted In republicans primaries for Romney and still could

Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell first acts was banning trumps wall and doing collusion investigations disobeying Trumps orders
 
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Nobody much showed up to White Lives Matter rallies that were supposed to happen this weekend. The largest were at Huntington Beach, CA, and Wakefield, MA.

As someone posted in the comments, it was similar to the non events that happened after Charlottesville.

The consequences of the Jan. 6 riots, arrests and loss of jobs, perhaps discouraged would be participants. If the past predicts what happens now, we will see more lone wolf attacks rather than large demonstrations in the next year or two.
 

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Not sure this belongs here, but this is a thread where we were discussing the topic earlier:

As Texas Legislature considers anti-trans bills, NCAA announces it will not hold events in states that discriminate against trans students​

 

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Because when Black people are being indiscriminately assaulted and killed, and there's a p*nd*m*c going on, state legislatures should be talking about.....trans kids playing sports. Priorities :rolleyes:

Oh but its the rightwing conservatives saving the girls' sports that they were against funding in the first place. :rolleyes:

The cry that they are saving girls sports makes me puke.
 

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Oh but its the rightwing conservatives saving the girls' sports that they were against funding in the first place. :rolleyes:

The cry that they are saving girls sports makes me puke.
It's another non-problem like voter fraud only even more of a non-problem considering how few trans kids there are and how few of them play sports.
 
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It's another non-problem like voter fraud on even more of a non-problem considering how few trans kids there are and how few of them play sports.
And its not about sports or even about trans kids. Its about rightwing Republicans needing a wedge issue and trying to gin up a moral panic over gender to scare their base into getting out to vote.

In other words, indicative of a party that has rotted to the core.
 

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And its not about sports or even about trans kids. Its about rightwing Republicans needing a wedge issue and trying to gin up a moral panic over gender to scare their base into getting out to vote.

In other words, indicative of a party that has rotted to the core.
It's similar to 2003-04 when anti-gay marriage bills were drafted to scare voters to vote against Democrats.
 

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It is basically because conservatives don't have any other priority but to try and create issues and impose their morals on the rest of society because they are not interested in anyone else but themselves. And the Trump years emboldened that. They don't feel they have to apologise for anything. But they are the biggest bunch of hypocrites on the planet and don't like being held to account, hence constant complaints of political correctness and cancel culture.
 

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Smartmatic's legal team has a way with words:

"This is not a game. The First Amendment does not provide Fox Defendants a Get Out of Jail Free card. The Fox Defendants do not get a do-over with their reporting now that they have been sued. Their decision to defame Smartmatic had real world consequences. Smartmatic's reputation will never be the same."
 

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Smartmatic's legal team has a way with words:

"This is not a game. The First Amendment does not provide Fox Defendants a Get Out of Jail Free card. The Fox Defendants do not get a do-over with their reporting now that they have been sued. Their decision to defame Smartmatic had real world consequences. Smartmatic's reputation will never be the same."
:biggrinbo Called accountability. For too long Fox News has gotten away with saying stuff that is BS.
 

caseyedwards

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Smartmatic's legal team has a way with words:

"This is not a game. The First Amendment does not provide Fox Defendants a Get Out of Jail Free card. The Fox Defendants do not get a do-over with their reporting now that they have been sued. Their decision to defame Smartmatic had real world consequences. Smartmatic's reputation will never be the same."
They only sued commentators not reporters. This is a corporation trying to make media outlets go out of business if they bashed their product.

It's similar to 2003-04 when anti-gay marriage bills were drafted to scare voters to vote against Democrats.

Is this going to end the same way? Are all Americans going to support very successful athletes in men’s divisions switching to women’s division after or during their transitions like all Americans now support same sex marriage?
 
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Aussie Willy

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They only sued commentators not reporters. This is a corporation trying to make media outlets go out of business if they bashed their product.
These are corporations who are suing those who told out and out lies about their products and ruined their reputations based on lies. If they go out of business as a result so be it. Serves them right.
 

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Because when Black people are being indiscriminately assaulted and killed, and there's a p*nd*m*c going on, state legislatures should be talking about.....trans kids playing sports. Priorities :rolleyes:
Where I live, they spend an extensive amount of time doing stuff like this to draw attention from the criminal activities where they are pilfering funds, embezzling and taking kickbacks from their corporate donors. Don't look there while people are doing horrible things like scheduling a drag queen workshop at the county library!
 

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Nobody much showed up to White Lives Matter rallies that were supposed to happen this weekend. The largest were at Huntington Beach, CA, and Wakefield, MA.

As someone posted in the comments, it was similar to the non events that happened after Charlottesville.

The consequences of the Jan. 6 riots, arrests and loss of jobs, perhaps discouraged would be participants. If the past predicts what happens now, we will see more lone wolf attacks rather than large demonstrations in the next year or two.
They showed up in their tens.
 

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They showed up in their tens.
I believe the repercussions of possibly being identified by photos/TV coverage/family or friends resulting in loss of job/being fired is making an impact. I dont think there are less white supremacists - they are being driven underground.

Or elected as lawmakers to try and supress things like voting. Or choosing law enforcement jobs to be like Chaven.
 

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