Dangers of a Trump Presidency--Part 7

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They didn’t chastise him when he mocked a disabled reporter, an immigrant Dad who lost his son while fighting for This country, when he bragged about sexually assaulting women, when he invited foreign powers to help him win his reelection, and the lust goes on.
Why would they chastise him now?
Not surprised. His whole point of existence is to build himself up at the expense of putting others down. Just a vile petty man who cannot help himself.

Hence his racism, bigotry, demonising and vilifying others.
 

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Not surprised. His whole point of existence is to build himself up at the expense of putting others down. Just a vile petty man who cannot help himself.

Hence his racism, bigotry, demonising and vilifying others.
I find more fault with the facilitators & supporters of Trump's racism, bigotry, demonizing, & vilifying of others! :rolleyes:
 

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I sort of still have hope that Tiffany Trump isn't going to be latching on to that family brand to fund her lifestyle, and will do something apart from that train wreck of a family. Or maybe I only hope that because Marla Maples seems to like Michelle Kwan a lot and posts on her Instagram account on the regular, and thus my judgment is clouded about her and therefore I have hopes for Tiffany.
 

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Mitch McConnell is claiming there's no legislating going on because of impeachment:
No surprise; lying is the cure all for their ills! We talk more about how despicable they are instead of staying "on issue!" McConnell knows what he's doing! :judge:
Actually, McConnell isn’t lying, because HE is the one holding up the legislative process.
Trump didn't understand why Ivanka converted.

“Why should my daughter convert to marry anyone?” Ward quoted Trump as saying to an associate.
According to Halacha (Jewish law), conversion for marriage is not supposed to be allowed. It requires a sincere desire to follow Jewish religious practice and mitzvot.
 

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A 13-year old girl won the Person of the Year title, which rightfully belongs to him. How dare she?

Go on a twitter rant, little Trumpi. Have a bucket or two of Kentucky Fried Chicken. Throw an executive order at the wall. Lament about the injustice of the world. Keep your inner adult in check. Go look at the people locked in cages as per your order, it will affirm your purpose in life. Tell us again that Thurnberg is fake news!

Feel better soon.
 

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^And everyone who was so up in arms about Trump's son last week has been silent so far. Not that I'm surprised or expected otherwise. Hypocrits.
 

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A 13-year old girl won the Person of the Year title, which rightfully belongs to him. How dare she?

Go on a twitter rant, little Trumpi. Have a bucket or two of Kentucky Fried Chicken. Throw an executive order at the wall. Lament about the injustice of the world. Keep your inner adult in check. Go look at the people locked in cages as per your order, it will affirm your purpose in life. Tell us again that Thurnberg is fake news!
Greta Thunberg is 16, and will turn 17 next month.

I've long stopped being surprised by Republican pots calling kettles black, but it's interesting how bitching about kids (which Pamela Karlan didn't even do) is once again perfectly okay.
 

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According to CNN Trump has promised to retaliate against the Democrats once a Democratic president takes office. I shudder to think what that could possibly mean given the hard time the GOP gave the last two Democratic presidents.
 

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According to CNN Trump has promised to retaliate against the Democrats once a Democratic president takes office. I shudder to think what that could possibly mean given the hard time the GOP gave the last two Democratic presidents.
He'll throw a tantrum in his prison cell? :unsure:
 

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According to CNN Trump has promised to retaliate against the Democrats once a Democratic president takes office. I shudder to think what that could possibly mean given the hard time the GOP gave the last two Democratic presidents.
This is so much like a mob leader! He is vindictive. He makes threats and the republicans are scared of him. The democrats should not be scared. They are following the laws.

Trump said- I will do whatever I like during the Senate impeachment trial.

What a contrast! Bill Clinton faced the nation, and admitted his mistake. While going through the impeachment and the senate trial he continued to his job by serving the country.

How can the republicans tolerate statements like "I will do whatever I want...." by a POTUS? Are they so scared or so brainwashed that they can't do anything that Trump may disapprove of?
 

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Do the republicans even believe in democracy anymore? Clearly they don't. This is such a sad and scary article.

The articles always try to be uplifting by saying how long we have survived, how strong our institutions are, and how we will make it through this. I am not so sure. Trump is taking our institutions apart brick by brick, and the republicans are cheering him on. Some are even participating in the dismantling of our democracy. :(

I am not convinced that we/our democracy will survive.
 

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According to CNN Trump has promised to retaliate against the Democrats once a Democratic president takes office. I shudder to think what that could possibly mean given the hard time the GOP gave the last two Democratic presidents.
If he retains his influence with his base and consequently, his power over Republicans, there will be a bogus impeachment investigation if Republicans are in a position to do it.
 

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If he retains his influence with his base and consequently, his power over Republicans, there will be a bogus impeachment investigation if Republicans are in a position to do it.
It's already bogus! McConnell admitted to meeting with POTUS attorneys to go over how to deal with this impeachment trial! There's no real separation of powers with McConnell's lack of integrity and not caring about the institution he leads! It's already over before it begins! It's a sham and the whole world knows the outcome already! :judge:
 

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It's already bogus! McConnell admitted to meeting with POTUS attorneys to go over how to deal with this impeachment trial! There's no real separation of powers with McConnell's lack of integrity and not caring about the institution he leads! It's already over before it begins! It's a sham and the whole world knows the outcome already! :judge:
We're talking about retaliation impeachment should a Democrat get elected.

Regardless of what McConnell has decided, this impeachment is not bogus. Trump has abused his power. And obstructed Congress. And obstructed justice. Should a Democrat get elected and what I said in my previous post apply, Republicans would impeach because the President might have had a parking ticket when they were 20.
 

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We're talking about retaliation impeachment should a Democrat get elected.

Regardless of what McConnell has decided, this impeachment is not bogus. Trump has abused his power. And obstructed Congress. And obstructed justice. Should a Democrat get elected and what I said in my previous post apply, Republicans would impeach because the President might have had a parking ticket when they were 20.
You can't be serious! We're at a crossroad where the partisanship is so bad you don't have to be pushed into doing something wicked; they just do it for the HELL of it! Even Obama did nothing to Trump aside from making fun of him at the WH Corr. Dinner, but he's gone out of his way to insult, undermine the previous admin., and has systematically tried to overturn just about everything Obama signed into law! The ACA only survived by McCain coming to his senses before he died saving our healthcare system! Idiots were ready to eliminate the coverage and replace it with nothing! We're such idiots! We keep rewarding these a-holes, so they continue that trait of disgust! :wall:
 

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We're talking about retaliation impeachment should a Democrat get elected.

Regardless of what McConnell has decided, this impeachment is not bogus. Trump has abused his power. And obstructed Congress. And obstructed justice. Should a Democrat get elected and what I said in my previous post apply, Republicans would impeach because the President might have had a parking ticket when they were 20.
I think Fiero is talking about the Senate trial this time. You are both right.
 

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You can't be serious! We're at a crossroad where the partisanship is so bad you don't have to be pushed into doing something wicked; they just do it for the HELL of it! Even Obama did nothing to Trump aside from making fun of him at the WH Corr. Dinner, but he's gone out of his way to insult, undermine the previous admin., and has systematically tried to overturn just about everything Obama signed into law! The ACA only survived by McCain coming to his senses before he died saving our healthcare system! Idiots were ready to eliminate the coverage and replace it with nothing! We're such idiots! We keep rewarding these a-holes, so they continue that trait of disgust! :wall:
:huh: I'm not sure if you read the posts correctly. Buzz said that Trump has threatened retaliation should a Democrat be elected and asked what he/the GOP would do and I said should Trump retain his power over Republicans, they'd impeach a Democrat for no reason.

As far as Trump's impeachment is concerned, yes, I'm serious. I don't think the impeachment is bogus but justified (and long overdue and in an ideal system where everyone does what they're supposed to do Trump would have already been impeached and removed or at the very least would be impeached by the entire House and be removed come January).
 

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:huh: I'm not sure if you read the posts correctly. Buzz said that Trump has threatened retaliation should a Democrat be elected and asked what he/the GOP would do and I said should Trump retain his power over Republicans, they'd impeach a Democrat for no reason.

As far as Trump's impeachment is concerned, yes, I'm serious. I don't think the impeachment is bogus but justified (and long overdue and in an ideal system where everyone does what they're supposed to do Trump would have already been impeached and removed or at the very least would be impeached by the entire House and be removed come January).
Again, I have to ask, who are we kidding? Regardless of what happens or if we NEVER impeached Trump, The Republicans have become "the vindictive party" and will most definitely invent a reason to impeach the next Dem! They'll make up $#!t more than likely as they did with Clinton! For those same A-holes to go full out on a Dem while excusing any Republican malfeasance, I just don't really care anymore! I've gotten too old to fight! This country is truly doomed if they think this is an unfair process after what they put the country thru 20 years ago with Bill & Hillary; an era of HATING!:judge:
 

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Has this been posted? Greta is just way to smart for Trump. He needs to stick to people his own speed like his fellow Republicans.

Who isn't smarter than Trump? I'm not kidding! The economy's spinning along, with low unemployment, & the stock market blowing up, but because of his insulting and disgusting behavior in the OVAL Office, going on Twitter rants against children, no one cares! He would be doing so well if he'd just shut up and stay out of the news for a few days! His popularity and poll #'s would explode, but he's not smart enough to do that! I thank him! :wall:
 

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Of course republicans believe in democracy! When the bad the potential to block all trump votes from counting in the republicans primary because he was not a republican for a long time and gave to democrats they didn’t! They respected the votes of republicans for him in the primaries.
 

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The WH is restricting the number of people who are allowed to listen to Trump's calls to a handful of Trump appointees. https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/13/politics/white-house-foreign-calls-crackdown-ukraine/index.html

This is dangerous on so many levels.
Honey, that was the case when he was elected! He has undermined every institution, saying they're all corrupt while he's the only honest broker; the one with over 13,000 registered exaggerations, embellishments, and outright lies! This is the 1st president in the history of this country who entertains Russian spies, tries to hide it, then actually continues the practice with a meeting recently! I could go on, but obviously few really care! How many of his supporters are ready to admit he's scum? It would reflect on them! "NEWSFLASH, it already has!" Thanks America for destroying us! :judge:
 

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Is this even legal?
You're kidding? Trump doesn't GAF about something being illegal or not! Like Nixon, he said out loud, "if I do it, it's not illegal!" He believes that! The courts with plenty nominated by Trump have told him differently! If not for Bill Barr being his "Roy Cohen," he'd be fit to be tied with all the people working against him! Poor baby; it's rough having rules and regulations to limit his power! :judge:
 

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Is this even legal?
If it isn't, who is going to stop him?


In other news, Trump wanted to evacuate Seoul back in 2017. It was one of the orders the DOD ignored. He also asked why the city was so close to the North Korean border. :shuffle: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/09/trump-seoul-evacuation-north-korea-book


A judge scolded the DOJ lawyer over the Executive's handling of the House's subpoenas for the census documents during the hearing of the case. https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/13/donald-trump-census-citizenship-question-084506
 

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The WH is restricting the number of people who are allowed to listen to Trump's calls to a handful of Trump appointees. https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/13/politics/white-house-foreign-calls-crackdown-ukraine/index.html

This is dangerous on so many levels.
It sounds like he doesn’t want anyone checking his behavior, particularly when it comes to foreign relations. He will hand pick people who will never say anything negative about him. This gives Russia, China and other countries free pass to meddle in our affairs.

I think the republicans see no danger in this is because what is helping him is helping them too.

Trump is out to sell our country to adversaries, for his personal gain. He really is working for Putin and for the USA. He has enormous power.

This is a real nightmare situation.

When the framers included Impeachment as a way to keep a president from abusing his power to win his next election, I doubt that they ever thought that his party would betray the USA.
 

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I think the republicans see no danger in this is because what is helping him is helping them too.
Oh, I think they do. They just care more about their power and either don't care or tell themselves that they can prevent the absolute worst.


When the framers included Impeachment as a way to keep a president from abusing his power to win his next election, I doubt that they ever thought that his party would betray the USA.
If they did then they would have been idiots to write a Constitution that depends on the people who uphold the institutions to put country over everything. In other words, no I don't think they imagined it because I think they would have written the Constitution differently then.
 

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Oh, I think they do. They just care more about their power and either don't care or tell themselves that they can prevent the absolute worst.




If they did then they would have been idiots to write a Constitution that depends on the people who uphold the institutions to put country over everything. In other words, no I don't think they imagined it because I think they would have written the Constitution differently then.
They couldn’t imagine a situation like this when they were writing the constitution. Even the inclusion of impeachment was debated over before reaching agreement (as per Neal Katyal’s book on Impeachment).what is happening right now is so bizarre that we couldn’t have envisioned it just 5 years ago. The framers were writing over 200 years before this.
 
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