Dangers of a Trump Presidency--Part 7

[Prancer]

Previously, on Dangers of a Trump Presidency--Part 6:

Reince Priebus was fired; Ret. Gen. Kelly is in.

Scaramucci has a foul mouth and his wife has filed for divorce.

Trump is still Trump.

 

[Susan1]

Nicely put. You forgot the dramatic dum dum dum!!!

p.s. anybody hear anything from the VP on all of the above or is he still sitting in a corner rubbing his hands together waiting his turn while he keeps repeating make America great again with a smirk on his face.

 

[VGThuy]

*Narration before the episode starts: "The role of the Chief of Staff will now be played by General John Kelly."

 

[bardtoob]

p.s. anybody hear anything from the VP on all of the above or is he still sitting in a corner rubbing his hands together waiting his turn while he keeps repeating make America great again with a smirk on his face.

... I thought the VP was busy trying to "prove" that Trump won the popular vote because Trump already decided 1 out of every 40 votes were fraudulent ... The odds were 1 to 39 that a randomly chosen vote was fraudulent ...

 

[oleada]

So if John Kelly is chief of staff who will be the DHS secretary?

 

[ballettmaus]

So if John Kelly is chief of staff who will be the DHS secretary?

And does Trump (Bannon/Miller?) already have someone in mind and hopes for a recess appointment because he knows he can't get the pick confirmed otherwise?

 

[bardtoob]

Trump Administration 'may be investigated' after threatening the whole of Alaska

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-apos-may-investigated-104722832.html

"It was subsequently alleged that Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke called her and fellow Republican senator for Alaska Dan Sullivan. He was said to have told them that if Ms Murkowski voted against the motion, it could mean proposed energy projects destined for the state would have to be scrapped."

"Alaska is currently seeking federal permission to expand oil drilling in the National Petroleum Reserve but there are fears that this may now be blocked by White House."
-----------

Trump turned on a red state.

 

[VALuvsMKwan]

Previously, on Dangers of a Trump Presidency--Part 6:

Reince Priebus was fired; Ret. Gen. Kelly is in.

Scaramucci has a foul mouth and his wife has filed for divorce.

Trump is still Trump.

Perhaps Mrs. Scaramucci believes the Internet reports that allege her estranged husband follows a gay porn star named Blake Mitchell on Twitter.

 

[bardtoob]

Perhaps Mrs. Scaramucci believes the Internet reports that allege her estranged husband follows a gay porn star named Blake Mitchell on Twitter.

Fair enough ... Apparently he follows Steve Bannon as he tries to suck ... Well, you know.

... He was also following all the blocked ... Well, you know ... By Preibus.

----

Politics based on one guiding principle, "Who's f#$%ing who".

 

[oleada]

On MSNBC, they were talking about how Trump didn't know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid.
I mean, I'm not surprised, but also just ugh.

 

[skatingfan5]

On MSNBC, they were talking about how Trump didn't know the difference between Medicare and Medicaid.
I mean, I'm not surprised, but also just ugh.

Just a "man of the people" who cares about the forgotten common folks, many of whom are recipients of services through those programs. And he definitely is NOT an elite, because he eats cheese burgers and pizza, according to the Mooch.

 

[FiveRinger]

And taco bowls on Cinqo de Mayo.

 

[skatfan]

With the Senate on recess, they can't vote on a new DHS secretary, which already proves the incompetence of the new COS - he didn't even think about his own replacement. Look for way more chaos in WH.

 

[Buzz]

Trump in a speech today seemed to encourage police brutality. Given the state of relations between many communities and the cops charged with policing them, this sort of rhetoric is not helpful.

“And when you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon,” he said, “you just see ’em thrown in, rough.

“I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice.’ Like when you guys put somebody in the car and you’re protecting the head. You know? The way you put the hand over [the head], like ‘Don’t hit their head’ and they’ve just killed somebody, ‘Don’t hit their head.’

“I said, ‘You can take the hand away,’ OK?”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jul/28/donald-trump-police-long-island-speech

 

[oleada]

Perhaps Mrs. Scaramucci believes the Internet reports that allege her estranged husband follows a gay porn star named Blake Mitchell on Twitter.

More like she's not a Trump fan and is not happy with his political ambitions
https://www.thecut.com/2017/07/anthony-scaramucci-wife-deidre-ball-divorce.html

 

[VGThuy]

To be fair to her, I bet a lot of people didn't realize how far the deep-end people they thought they really knew would go until Trump.

 

[oleada]

To be fair to her, I bet a lot of people didn't realize how far the deep-end people they thought they really knew would go until Trump.

If my husband decided to go work for Trump, I would file for divorce too.

 

[Vash01]

There was an interesting conversation on Chris Hayes' show tonight.

We all know Trump has been psychoanalyzed a lot. There was one thing I had not heard before. One person on the show said Trump gets bored quickly and needs to keep creating controversies, He also sets up fights within his own staff, sort of like the Hunger games/ survival of the fittest.

That could very well be.It makes the WH chaotic, and it doesn't work in this setting, I am not sure it works in the business setting either, but there people sort of accept the dog eat dog environment.

 

[twinsissv]

Well, some republicans are beginning to see the light. They seem to realize that their little pre-school level 'president' is not ready for the heavy-duty responsibilities. He cannot cancel or in any way diminish those Russian sanctions. He cannot initiate military engagement without their approval. He cannot make a recess appointment to replace AG Sessions. It's almost like they've put him in Timeout! Good. Now, if only they would negate any and all access to those nuclear codes! That still bothers me. Weapons of mass destruction should never be in a place where children or childish adults can get to them.
P.S. AND THAT FINAL WARNING APPLIES TO NORTH KOREA AS WELL!

 

[Aussie Willy]

Oooo new thread.

 

[twinsissv]

Why do I feel so sorry for General John Kelly? Poor man. Does he realize what he has signed on for? How long will it be before he runs screaming from the Nut House...I mean...the White House begging for sanctuary...anywhere? Please, somebody, help that poor man!

 

[allezfred]

I have no sympathy for anyone who decides to work from Trump. They can't say they don't know what they are getting themselves into.

 

[Susan1]

Misc. -

every time someone said how General Kelly was well respected, served his country, blah, blah, blah, I said out loud to the t.v. - Mike Flynn.

Wondering if McCain would have voted no BEFORE his health scare.

98 jobs going away in two suburbs because of a tech company here closing down.

45 would not let Priebus be in charge of the WH, so he fires him because he could not do anything. Everybody else (except for family) better duck. Then he takes him along on Air Force One to get his opinion on his replacement. He's not good enough for the job, but you trust his opinion on who would be?

Article in paper - U.S. Coast Guard's cost for Maralago security - $6.6M, while having to not pursue hundreds of potential drug shipments because they don't have enough planes and ships.

The president advocating police brutality? How many lawsuits are going to come from this, whether any police actually take him up on it. "I bumped my elbow on the police car. Sue the president!".

 

[DORISPULASKI]

Trump Administration 'may be investigated' after threatening the whole of Alaska

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-administration-apos-may-investigated-104722832.html

"It was subsequently alleged that Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke called her and fellow Republican senator for Alaska Dan Sullivan. He was said to have told them that if Ms Murkowski voted against the motion, it could mean proposed energy projects destined for the state would have to be scrapped."

"Alaska is currently seeking federal permission to expand oil drilling in the National Petroleum Reserve but there are fears that this may now be blocked by White House."
-----------

Trump turned on a red state.

No real teeth in there yet. Just

Separately, Interior Department watchdog group the Western Values Project filed a records request related to Mr Zinke's calls to Ms Murkowski and Mr Sullivan

However, this kind of corruption (threatening or imposing punishment on a whole population for a vote or political endorsement of their elected representatives) is what got the Bridgegate guys jailed in NJ. I cannot see the Trump justice department pursuing it, but perhaps the State of Alaska will?

 

[skatesindreams]

I wish there were a way to compel Trump to be examined by competent physicians, including psychiatrists.
His thought processes and actions are not those of a normal, healthy person, IMO.
This seems increasingly evident.

The chaos he creates on a daily basis affects the whole world.

 

[snoopy]

Giuliani is being floated as DHS replacement.

 

[skatesindreams]

I expected as much.

He would have the cabinet level position he aspires to; and become the "authority figure/expert" he has always imagined himself to be.
That's in addition to the many photo-ops he will have "at the ear" of the President.

 

[Reuven]

However, this kind of corruption (threatening or imposing punishment on a whole population for a vote or political endorsement of their elected representatives) is what got the Bridgegate guys jailed in NJ. I cannot see the Trump justice department pursuing it, but perhaps the State of Alaska will?

Just remember this—Sen. Murkowski chairs the Sub-committee on Appropriations which has oversight of monies allotted to departments—including Interior.

On Mr. Kelly: I think he’s going to find he’s going to have a tough time getting The Embarrassment to listen. After all, he’s said it many times, he knows more than anybody. Trump runs on chaos, he needs it because he has the attention span of a gnat. Toady the Moocher brags about having a direct line to Trump, will Kelly put the kibosh on that? Will he be able to rein in Dolt’s early morning tweet storms?

 

[Deleted member 221]

In response to Prancer from the last thread:

These are sincere questions, because I don't really understand the argument that viewing health care as a right would mean that people are being forced to pay for others' care. That's what happens now with insurance. The only difference would be in the number of people, both those who were paying for others' care and people who were receiving the care. Do you also object to health insurance?

No, it's voluntary. Insurance companies set premiums; people or employers can choose to buy / pay or not.

I don't even necessarily object to making some level of insurance required. However, I do strongly object to (mostly) Democrats' attempts to require basic insurance to include an entire litany of things. People should have freedom to decide what level of coverage they want, within reason. I favor relatively low "minimum standards" of what insurance should include, akin to car insurance. I'm somewhere in between the Democrats and Republicans on what I think basic policies should include -- e.g., I do think basic maternity cover should be a requirement for all policies.

But the Democrats take the minimum requirements way too far. Most of my self-employed friends in NYC, including those with incomes well in excess of $100k, have chosen to pay the Obamacare penalty and go without insurance because insurance in liberal New York state is such a poor value due to the mandatory inclusions. Given the state regulations, Obamacare in NY should be called the Unaffordable Care Act because it prohibits my friends and others from buying the types of affordable coverage available in other states. And because the Democrats refuse to allow any sanctions against those who go on and off coverage, my friends can simply sign up for Obamacare with no repercussions if they end up needing treatment for something. (This is why I support punitive rates for those with pre-existing conditions who do not maintain continuous coverage.) It's promoting the very behaviors it seeks to avoid.

I am also very wary of the government giving people "free" and/or "guaranteed" things because they're near impossible to take away. Losses hurt three times as much as gains feel good, etc. I think it's wrong and irresponsible to guarantee people coverage that's being funded by expanding the deficit and the national debt.

 

[rfisher]

I have no sympathy for anyone who decides to work from Trump. They can't say they don't know what they are getting themselves into.

Neither do I, especially an extremist like Kelly.

And, @Louis the problem with those people opting out of insurance is when they need it, they don't have it. Accidents happen. I just read about a snakebite victim whose hospital bills are close to a quarter million dollars. No insurance and they file bankruptcy, costs go up for everybody, hospitals have to write off the losses for emergency treatment and have to make up that revenue elsewhere. Our hospital's charity write offs are millions of dollars each year. We have to include that in the annual budget. That money cannot be used for salaries, or put back into the hospital as non profit hospitals are required to do. It's just gone. And, accidents are more likely to happen to those young, invincible people than to the older people with insurance (who learned the hard way). It's the same with mandatory auto liability insurance. If there hadn't been a problem, there wouldn't be a need for mandatory rules. Is the ACA perfect? Hardly. And now there is an opportunity for Congress to stop acting like jerks and sit down and rework the law to improve it. Except being a jerk seems to be the number one quality for being in Congress.