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Brandon Mroz- what has happened to him

Discussion in 'The Trash Can' started by judgejudy27, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    He looked like one of the U.S and comers several years ago but he has dropped off the face of the earth. I had even thought he retired but apparently he is still competing at Nationals, just producing low finishes there now. What happened to him and why hasnt he remained a contender, especialy when the U.S men arent even that strong these days.
  2. Sylvia

    Sylvia It's club comp. season!

    Mroz landed a 4T in both his 2013 Nationals SP (10th) and FS (10th) for 9th place overall, one of his better showings in recent years. He was assigned to Gardena Spring Trophy in Italy earlier this month (his first international since landing the first ISU competition 4Lz in his SP at 2011 NHK Trophy) but was not successful with the quad or many of his other jumps and finished 4th (he attained the 2013 Worlds minimum TES in the SP but not in the FS).

    ETA a correction: NHK Trophy was before Rostelecom Cup in the fall of 2011.
    Last edited: Apr 19, 2013
  3. OnyxRose81

    OnyxRose81 Active Member

    To be honest, he only cares about the jumps and that just barely. I honestly have no idea why he's still around if he doesn't like to skate.
  4. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

    Brandon showed promise as a junior and in his 1st year as a Senior, when he finished ahead of Lysacek and Weir at '09 Nationals, and ahead of Abbott at Worlds to be the #2 US man there. I do agree with the post above that because he treats his programs like an X competition to see what type of Quad he can land, he has neglected his skating abilities, and his credibility with the USFSA in general. I was going to say that he would benefit in a new environment, but it could be that Tom Z may have given up on him and it's up to Brandon to decide that he wants to be a complete skater, not just a daredevil
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  5. caseyedwards

    caseyedwards Well-Known Member

    Sure he won a silver medal at US nationals in 2009 and made it to worlds but was on track to do even better in 2011 but dislocated his should but still competed. This was after he won 2 medals in the GP season! Early 2009 and late 2010 were good but since then he can't get the consistency to do jumps well. That is the major thing. Whatever was going on for the 2010 GP was working great so maybe it's the shoulder? Or just so intent on doing more quad Lutz's. So you have some problems but showed he can recover from depths. He will probably qualify for 2014 nationals just like he qualified for 2013 nationals. He placed 9th which was not his worst. His worst is 14th in 2012.
  6. Dr.Siouxs

    Dr.Siouxs Well-Known Member

    I use his programs as a sleep aid. :saint:
  7. PeterG

    PeterG Well-Known Member

    That is a mean thing to say. If I'm understanding correctly, mean-ness is against the FSU rules.

  8. LongTimeLurker

    LongTimeLurker Member

    Yes, it is a mean thing to say. But is it any meaner than calling a skater a "fridge break"? Both are mean, IMHO.
  9. Dr.Siouxs

    Dr.Siouxs Well-Known Member

    :D But I will say this....contributing a quad lutz to competitive figure skating is not a bad accomplishment. :respec:
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  10. PeterG

    PeterG Well-Known Member

    Fine. I will quit with my first draft of "BAN SIOUXDONYM FROM FSU" petition. But mark my words. You are being watched.

  11. CantALoop

    CantALoop Well-Known Member

    He'll probably end up as one of the footnotes in skating history like Vern Taylor
  12. olympic

    olympic Well-Known Member

    After I posted, I remembered the 2 medals on the GP circuit in the Fall of 2010. He worked w/ Sandra Bezic IIRC that year. Perhaps that made a difference (but not sure whom he worked with since then). I stand by my statement that he needs to focus really hard on other elements of skating besides the 'hardest quads'.
  13. briancoogaert

    briancoogaert Well-Known Member

    The problem is that he seems to have lost part of his jumps too !
  14. sk8ingcoach

    sk8ingcoach Active Member

    Whilst working in Colorado, he seemed very unmotivated. He would have multiple days with no training and if he did go training he would turn up late. He only started training more like a real athlete about 2 weeks before nationals.
  15. Skittl1321

    Skittl1321 Well-Known Member

    Sounds a lot like Bowman. Hopefully he's just unmotivated and doesn't have any of Bowman's other issues!
  16. modern_muslimah

    modern_muslimah Thinking of witty user title and coming up blank

    I guess the main difference is that Bowman had enough natural talent and charisma to get away with horrible training habits (for a while at least). Mroz isn't as talented a skater and he has zero charisma when skating.

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  17. judiz

    judiz Well-Known Member

    Mroz was lucky in 09, had Lysacek and Weir been in top condition at Nats, Mroz would had finished with the pewter.- in my opinion.
  18. madm

    madm Well-Known Member

    Brandon has had a very rough life. See his bio at http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/detail.jsp?id=100076. His mother and brother were nearly killed in a car accident, and his brother suffers from a spinal cord injury. It's not surprising that his focus may be on other things.
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  19. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    Who knows for sure. I dont think the judges were ever giving Weir the title over Abbott that year no matter how well he skated. Evan maybe could have, since Abbott had mistakes in the LP, but the SP showed they were going to go with Jeremy if both skated cleanly.
  20. paskatefan

    paskatefan Well-Known Member

    Thanks for pointing that out. Never count anyone out!
  21. lilshorty

    lilshorty Active Member

    Just wanted to mention that since working with Bezic, Brandon has also worked with Jeffrey Buttle who choreographed last season's programs for him. I agree that he needs to focus really hard on other elements of skating besides the jumps. I think that Brandon has been trying to work more on musicality, hence the reason why he went to Buttle last year, but in the case for some skaters, artistry takes years to develop, and when you can't put it together with the jumps then it's just a sad situation.
  22. judgejudy27

    judgejudy27 Well-Known Member

    The thing I like most about him is his ever present smile. He seems like such a happy person, despite his past family tragedies.
  23. judiz

    judiz Well-Known Member

    I fully expected Jeremy to get the title in 09 but thought based on their seasons, Lysacek would take the silver and Weir the bronze.
  24. Sylvia

    Sylvia It's club comp. season!

    I noticed that Mroz is no longer listed in USFS' International Selection Pool for 2014-15, so it appears he may have decided to retire from competition at 23 (no official word yet). He placed 9th at Nationals in Boston (ETA: he landed 4T+3T in both programs but had problems on other jumps).

    His IN bio: http://web.icenetwork.com/skaters/profile/brandon_mroz
    Last edited: Apr 15, 2014
  25. seabm7

    seabm7 Well-Known Member

    If it is really so, than I feel sad. I remember his silver at Nationals, he looked so promising at that time.

    In whatever path he would choose for next year, I hope he would find happiness.
  26. Susan M

    Susan M Well-Known Member

    I checked his ISU bio and Brandon was born in 1990, so he will be 24 this December. His career highlights include

    06-07 - 4th at Jr Worlds (age 16)
    07-08 - 4th at Jr Worlds (age 17)
    08-09 - 2nd at US Nationals (senior), 9th at Worlds (age 18)
    09-10 - 6th at US Nationals, 4th at 4 Continents (age 19)
    10-11 - 2nd at Cup of China, 3rd at Bompard, 7th at US Nationals (age 19-20)
    11-12 - 14th at US Nationals (age 21)
    12-13 - 9th at US Nationals (age 22)
    13-14 - 9th at US Nationals (age 23)

    In addition to the family issues that may have distracted his mental focus, I think part of it may be dealing with a maturing body. A man in his mid-20s is going to be thicker and heavier than his teenage self, and that is going to make it harder to jump. Heavier bodies need more strength to get good jump height; broader shoulders don't rotate as quickly.

    Over the years, we have seen other promising teenagers struggle somewhere in the 19-21 range. (Petrenko in 89, Eldrege in 93, Kulik in 97). Those with good basic jump technique who put in the work are able to come thru it. Even those who continue to compete succcessfully may continue to strugggle with a particular jump. (This is the age Lambiel's 3 axel went AWOL, for example.)

    So, my guess is part of the problem is the male counterpart to the puberty monster, kind of like those promising 13 yo girls whose 3 lutzes depart by age 18. It takes a lot of talent, good technique, and a lot of work and determination. If he has found that he isn't motivated enough to put in the time and effort, maybe it is best to move on to something else. If he has retired, at least he walks away instead of ending up on the injured skater scrap heap.
  27. angelflies

    angelflies Well-Known Member

    Arent he and Jeremy Abbott good friends. Jeremy should have given him more encouragement to make his skating better again.
  28. centerpt1

    centerpt1 Well-Known Member

    A shame. He had such real potential. I was a fan.
  29. bronwynsings

    bronwynsings Well-Known Member

    Jeremy can give him all the encouragement in the world, but it's ultimately Brandon's desicion/responsibility. It shouldn't fall on Jeremy to encourage him.
    Last edited: Apr 16, 2014
  30. nubka

    nubka Well-Known Member

    What tragedies? :confused: