Anti-Semitism, anti-Zionism and anti-Christian incidents, reports, etc.

IceAlisa

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Actual Nazis crashed a Holocaust Remembrance event and Arkansas Tech has a scholarship named after a professor who thought Holocaust denial was a valid historical viewpoint and has no intentions of renaming that scholarship but it's comments made by a single Muslim woman that dominate the discussion. (Here and on the internet in general).
It’s not just any woman. I thought that much is obvious.
Despite what caseyedwards says, the Nazis in question aren’t in any immediate danger of being elected to Congress.

How are things for Jews in Germany these days, btw?
 

Zemgirl

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This discussion is exactly what I mean about some people calling out antisemitism only when it's on the other side.

Ilhan Omar is not the only person in American politics who can be faulted for the use of antisemitic tropes, as has been pointed out in this thread before. Antisemitic behavior does not only occur on the far right, in Europe or in the US. Antisemitism is dangerous, and it needs to be addressed regardless of the politics of those who engage in it.

I'm really not the target audience for Instagram Stories, but thought it was a great way to engage audiences who might not know much about the Holocaust.
 

demetriosj

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Tlaib is a member of Congress. Yes, she's new, and every elected official has had a gaffe at one point, but she did not get elected (or get to a place in the community where she was a viable candidate) by making "awkward" comments. I think we should assume that she is saying exactly what she intended.
She was run by the Justice "Democrats" whose agenda is scary and anti-American. "Her" words are their words, scripted for her by the Justice "Democrats". She is a member of Congress who could care less about her constituents, and only wants to push the radical Justice "Democrats" agenda. As a member of Congress, she should be concerned with the issues of her local constituents, and not be dwelling on Palestine.
 

PRlady

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Uh....

Well it’s so tacky that Steny Hoyer, who doesn’t even have a heavily Jewish district, is so outspokenly pro-Israel. Why does Lindsey Graham spend his time looking for another war rather than taking care of South Carolina. Weird that Bob Menendez worries so much about Puerto Rico rather than full time on New Jersey.....

And a justice agenda sounds like a good thing to me.
 

Debbie S

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Well it’s so tacky that Steny Hoyer, who doesn’t even have a heavily Jewish district, is so outspokenly pro-Israel.
"Tacky"? In any event, I wasn't aware that being from "a heavily Jewish district" was a requirement for support for Israel. Israel is the U.S.'s only ally in the Middle East. An all-Palestinian state would likely not be an ally option, so it is in U.S. geopolitical interests to have a viable Jewish state in the region, whether singly or as part of a two-state agreement.
 

PRlady

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"Tacky"? In any event, I wasn't aware that being from "a heavily Jewish district" was a requirement for support for Israel. Israel is the U.S.'s only ally in the Middle East. An all-Palestinian state would likely not be an ally option, so it is in U.S. geopolitical interests to have a viable Jewish state in the region, whether singly or as part of a two-state agreement.
I was satirizing the previous poster’s requirement that the only Palestinian rep just worry about her district rather than Palestine. Of course Hoyer is entitled to focus on Israel if he wants. All members of Congress have interests and responsibilities not precisely aligned with the needs of their state or district.
 

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Presumably because the KKK thinks it is a good place to hold a rally? It is relatively close to this group's home base in Indiana?

And it looks like counter demonstrations are planned:
Response from Jewish Community
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/kkk-rally-in-dayton-to-draw-response-from-jews-others/article_b523275e-7ccb-11e9-bcb5-bfbd5cf9c970.htmlrelatively

Jews will sing of peace at a community celebration in response to a Ku Klux Klan rally planned for May 25 in Courthouse Square in downtown Dayton.
New Black Panthers and Antifa will be there:
https://www.newsweek.com/kkk-new-black-panthers-and-antifa-call-rival-rallies-dayton-ohio-potential-1432479

Table is set for another Charlottesville, I fear. The question is whether the Dayton police is up to the challenge of keeping all the demonstrations under control, as the powers that be of Charlottesville were not.
 

Debbie S

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Table is set for another Charlottesville, I fear. The question is whether the Dayton police is up to the challenge of keeping all the demonstrations under control, as the powers that be of Charlottesville were not.
What didn't get a lot of mainstream publicity with regard to Charlottesville was that the Jewish community asked the police to guard the area synagogue, since they knew the KKK marchers would be marching right past the building. The police refused. I hope the Dayton police are more willing to protect the Jewish community and other residents targeted by the marchers.
 

demetriosj

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Omar attacking religious conservatives in the U.S.:

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1131354195175460864?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1131354195175460864&ref_url=https://iotwreport.com/without-a-hint-of-self-reflection-muslim-ilhan-omar-says-shes-frustrated-by-pols-who-force-their-religious-beliefs-on-others/

She should reflect on Shariah-based subjugation of women, female genital mutilation......She stands there ranting about religion controlling women while wearing a hijab...
 

Zemgirl

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Omar attacking religious conservatives in the U.S.:

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1131354195175460864?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1131354195175460864&ref_url=https://iotwreport.com/without-a-hint-of-self-reflection-muslim-ilhan-omar-says-shes-frustrated-by-pols-who-force-their-religious-beliefs-on-others/

She should reflect on Shariah-based subjugation of women, female genital mutilation......She stands there ranting about religion controlling women while wearing a hijab...
I don't see what that has with antisemitism or anything else this thread is meant to focus on.

In case you're not aware, women can choose to wear a hijab or otherwise veil themselves. Brush up on the first amendment if you have a problem with it.
 

demetriosj

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I don't see what that has with antisemitism or anything else this thread is meant to focus on.

In case you're not aware, women can choose to wear a hijab or otherwise veil themselves. Brush up on the first amendment if you have a problem with it.
Tellingly, you either can't see, or choose not to see, that Omar is attacking Christian conservatives. I guess you don't see the obvious irony and lack of self-awareness in her comments attacking conservative Christians. Maybe you don't think anti-Christian comments are worthy to be in this thread? Hmmmm.
 

Zemgirl

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Tellingly, you either can't see, or choose not to see, that Omar is attacking Christian conservatives. I guess you don't see the obvious irony and lack of self-awareness in her comments attacking conservative Christians. Maybe you don't think anti-Christian comments are worthy to be in this thread? Hmmmm.
She's attacking those who are trying to take away women's rights. That is not an anti-Christian stance. If you want to discuss abortion, take it to another thread.

You can read about Christian people dealing with real challenges here.
 

PRlady

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And for those wondering - nonpartisan polling shows vast majority of American Jews still hate Trump and link him to rise in antisemitism. (“But I gave them an embassy and the Golan!”) thinks he, again not realizing we are American, not Israeli. https://religionnews.com/2019/05/22/poll-american-jews-feel-threatened-blame-trump/

Israel ranks last among 16 concerns of US Jews. Does not make me happy.

ETA: pollster is a Dem but the Jewish Electorate Ins is nonpartisan.
 

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Speaking of Rep. Omar, just received the following from her:

Today I wanted to take a moment to discuss a really pressing topic: Crimes against humanity that China is committing against its Uighur population.

About one million Uighur Muslims have been detained in so-called re-education camps in China. Reports from the camps are scarce but indication that physical and psychological torture is taking place. The Chinese government is also using AI technology to take part in extreme surveillance of the Uighur people who are not in the camps. These are the precursors to genocide. We have the power to act now and we must.

According to reports of The Atlantic, 22 Uighur Muslims with no known anti-American sentiments were detained in Guantanamo in late 2001 and were kept there for 12 years at the urging of the Chinese government. There are also known cases of Uighurs on the suspected terror watch list in the United States, but now we learn that it is entirely possible they were added unfairly by the Chinese government.

Reporting on Wall Street Journal indicates that U.S. companies including Coca-Cola, the Gap, Kraft, and Hanes, are materially benefitting from the Uighur detention and this must be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

I am proud to cosponsor both the UIGHUR Act and the Uyghur Human Rights Policy Act to hold the perpetrators of these crimes accountable.
 

demetriosj

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She's attacking those who are trying to take away women's rights. That is not an anti-Christian stance. If you want to discuss abortion, take it to another thread.

You can read about Christian people dealing with real challenges here.
Shariah law and female genital mutilation, to name a few, doesn't take away a woman's rights? Those atrocities are conveniently ignored by her. She needs to stop reading the scripts the "Justice" "Democrats" are handing to her and open her eyes and mind to the truth.
 

Zemgirl

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Shariah law and female genital mutilation, to name a few, doesn't take away a woman's rights? Those atrocities are conveniently ignored by her. She needs to stop reading the scripts the "Justice" "Democrats" are handing to her and open her eyes and mind to the truth.
Israel has Sharia courts, you know, and we're doing just fine.

Ilhan Omar certainly does not support female genital mutilation. However, I'm not aware of either party currently trying to force American women and girls to forcibly undergo FGM. But one party is trying to take away women's reproductive rights, so that is a matter of some pressing concern.

With that, I will let you go back to your friends at the troll farm. Don't feed each other!
 

demetriosj

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Israel has Sharia courts, you know, and we're doing just fine.

Ilhan Omar certainly does not support female genital mutilation. However, I'm not aware of either party currently trying to force American women and girls to forcibly undergo FGM. But one party is trying to take away women's reproductive rights, so that is a matter of some pressing concern.

With that, I will let you go back to your friends at the troll farm. Don't feed each other!
Did not say she supports FGM, she just ignores it. An inconvenient truth.

Apparently anyone who does not conform to and promote leftist, socialist diatribes is labeled a troll. No other opinions or viewpoints welcome here. Only one way of thinking is acceptable by posters on this board. And this is a small microcosm of everything that is wrong in the world today, particularly in the U.S.
 

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Not at all. While the board skews liberal, conservatives on different sides of many arguments are debated politely. Folks who barge in with nasty Fox talking points, not so much.
 

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And for those wondering - nonpartisan polling shows vast majority of American Jews still hate Trump and link him to rise in antisemitism. (“But I gave them an embassy and the Golan!”) thinks he, again not realizing we are American, not Israeli. https://religionnews.com/2019/05/22/poll-american-jews-feel-threatened-blame-trump/

Israel ranks last among 16 concerns of US Jews. Does not make me happy.

ETA: pollster is a Dem but the Jewish Electorate Ins is nonpartisan.
I am a Conservative Jew in Northern California. We have a group of all members that meets weekly. The group is me and me.
 

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Presumably because the KKK thinks it is a good place to hold a rally? It is relatively close to this group's home base in Indiana?

And it looks like counter demonstrations are planned:
Response from Jewish Community
https://www.clevelandjewishnews.com/news/local_news/kkk-rally-in-dayton-to-draw-response-from-jews-others/article_b523275e-7ccb-11e9-bcb5-bfbd5cf9c970.htmlrelatively

New Black Panthers and Antifa will be there:
https://www.newsweek.com/kkk-new-black-panthers-and-antifa-call-rival-rallies-dayton-ohio-potential-1432479

Table is set for another Charlottesville, I fear. The question is whether the Dayton police is up to the challenge of keeping all the demonstrations under control, as the powers that be of Charlottesville were not.
The moron in the white house has emboldened people like this. They've had meetings practically every day, called in police reinforcements, swat teams at the ready, put up concrete barriers with fences on top of them (around the same place they have the tree lighting and where we saw the band 1964 on a Friday night - boggles the mind) out for blocks, rerouted traffic, closed bus stops, asked people not to go downtown, so that these creeps (G-rated word for X thought) can get together and spread their hate?. The counter demonstrations (and cleansing) are supposed to be the next day. They'd be doing food trucks and a festival and fireworks on a nomal holiday weekend. They've probably got things planned at Riverscape park on Monday. They need to completely close everything downtown on Saturday and ignore them, don't show it on the news. I don't know why they would want to go somewhere where they are obviously not wanted. I'm scared and I'm 10 miles away, and the only time I've been to downtown Dayton in the last 10 years was to go to the retina specialist.
 

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The moron in the white house has emboldened people like this. They've had meetings practically every day, called in police reinforcements, swat teams at the ready, put up concrete barriers with fences on top of them (around the same place they have the tree lighting and where we saw the band 1964 on a Friday night - boggles the mind) out for blocks, rerouted traffic, closed bus stops, asked people not to go downtown, so that these creeps (G-rated word for X thought) can get together and spread their hate?. The counter demonstrations (and cleansing) are supposed to be the next day. They'd be doing food trucks and a festival and fireworks on a normal holiday weekend. They've probably got things planned at Riverscape park on Monday. They need to completely close everything downtown on Saturday and ignore them, don't show it on the news. I don't know why they would want to go somewhere where they are obviously not wanted. I'm scared and I'm 10 miles away, and the only time I've been to downtown Dayton in the last 10 years was to go to the retina specialist.
It's over.
https://www.whio.com/news/local/today-kkk-rally-disrupt-services-test-dayton-unity-campaign/rbhb874czMR8DnxU1t2HXP/

There were 9 kkk members.

"City officials estimate around 500 to 600 people gathered in the area of Courthouse Square during the rally." And there were two other peaceful things near downtown.

"Dickstein said the city estimated $250,000 on personnel costs and $400,000 on materials. They said a more accurate figure will be totaled later."
All that cost and stress and disruption for 9 "people" (I use the term loosely) to demonstrate how disgusting they are. I was wondering if they had armed escorts into and out of town.

This channel said they would not show "them" on the news. I hope nobody else does.
 

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