2024 GPF - Junior Rhythm Dance

[Sylvia]

Junior Ice Dance - Rhythm Dance Starting Order/Results: https://www.isuresults.com/results/season2425/gpf2024/SEG015.htm

Time schedule by skater (18:45-19:35 local / 12:45-1:35 pm Eastern): https://www.isuresults.com/results/...JUNIOR----QUAL000100--_StartListwithTimes.pdf

StN. Name Nation (ISU bios are linked)

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Elliana PEAL / Ethan PEAL USA
2 Darya GRIMM / Michail SAVITSKIY GER
3 Katarina WOLFKOSTIN / Dimitry TSAREVSKI USA

Warm-Up Group 2
4 Celina FRADJI / Jean-Hans FOURNEAUX FRA
5 Iryna PIDGAINA / Artem KOVAL UKR
6 Noemi Maria TALI / Noah LAFORNARA ITA

Livestream (with Ted Barton & Mark Hanretty): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dgy6CcqPVjk

 

[Karen-W]

Bingo Link to start us off - https://mfbc.us/m/axgxuva

Free Space is "Pink Ladies" and can be marked off at the first sighting of them on camera!

Suggestion	Comments	Discipline
“Artistic” camerawork	Weird angles, loses skater, focus on 1 body part, fade-ins/outs	All
“Korean” hair bling	Doesn’t have to be a Korean skater but it has to be super-blingy; headbands count	All
2nd half bonus	Mentioned by commentator	All but Dance
arm (hair) ography	When the hair or arms are doing all the work	All
Big plushie		All
Bubble braid/ Man bun		All
coach cam	When they show the coach miming or reacting the performance	All
costume change		All
costume doesn’t match	Either each other or the music; slight color differences don’t count	All
could be skating to anything	From an FSUer	All
cutouts	It has to look like a piece of the costume is missing	All
dying on ice		All
elegant pop		All but Dance
Emo/ Sad Girl Cover		All
face touching		All
fall on non-element		All
fist pump	after landing a jump or seeing scores	All
Frosty/ mad coach	In the KnC	All
Gymnastics on ice	Cartwheels, roundoff, etc They have to be upside down at one point	All
Heart hands		All
illusion/ tights weird color	Like not matching skin tone or rest of the costume	All but usually not Mens
Invalid element		All
jarring music cuts		All
knee slide		All
lip-synching	To skater’s program	All
molest the judges	Getting in their space during the program; overrides touch the board	All but especially the FD
Music from Movie	Umbrellas, Lion King, Matrix, etc. Has to be from the soundtrack.	All
Music from Musical	POTO, Les Mis, etc. Has to be from the cast album	All
Nails/Hair match costume	Anything that requires a commitment beyond makeup and jewelry	All but usually not Mens
nude gloves		All
Obvious Warhorse	Not from Musical/Movie. Carmen, Nessa Dorum, Swan Lake, Muse, Take 5	All
only one sleeve		All but usually not Mens
Shoutouts in Kiss n Cry	Hi Mom!	All
smiling to sad music	Sad, dreary, we know it when we see it	All
Superstar Artist	Musical superstars only - MJ, ABBA, Louis Prima, etc -	All
Tights over/boot covers	Sometimes it’s hard to tell which is it so they both count	All but usually not Mens
touch the boards		All
Tribute program	i.e., skating to Disturb’s SoS or Red Violin - as determined by FSU - overrides obvious warhorse	All
very literal costume		All
voiceovers	Can’t be part of the original music	All
whickety-whack		All

For those playing along with Bingo - here's what we have so far through the Jr Pairs SP & Jr Women SP -

“Artistic” camerawork
could be skating to anything
cutouts
Emo/ Sad Girl Cover
Heart hands
“Korean” hair bling
lip-synching
Music from Movie
Music from Musical
Obvious Warhorse
Superstar Artist
Tights over/boot covers
whickety-whack

 

[Citlali]

The feed is live

 

[tony]

Biggest difference between senior rhythm dance and junior is that there are two pattern steps - the woman is required to perform the man's (traditionally) steps either on the first or second pass, up to them. We've seen some senior teams opt for this in their one pattern step, too.

No choreographic sequence here.

 

[her grace]

Age notes: the Italians and Wolfkostin/Tsarevski would have been too old to be here had the age rules not changed

 

[Frau Muller]

Go, GER!

 

[Rukia]

shawn rettstatt?? visionary????????? ted pls

 

[her grace]

Biggest difference between senior rhythm dance and junior is that there are two pattern steps - the woman is required to perform the man's (traditionally) steps either on the first or second pass, up to them. We've seen some senior teams opt for this in their one pattern step, too.

No choreographic sequence here.

Which both makes the junior version of the rhythm dance look more cohesive and is more of a technical program for apples-to-apples comparisons between teams.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Biggest difference between senior rhythm dance and junior is that there are two pattern steps - the woman is required to perform the man's (traditionally) steps either on the first or second pass, up to them. We've seen some senior teams opt for this in their one pattern step, too.

No choreographic sequence here.

Is the loose approximation of a theme the same?

 

[tony]

I would not say Shawn Rettstatt is open-minded and a visionary. I mean, these rhythm dance themes? The going away from foundations to heavy on choreographic sequences that get top GOE thrown at top teams?

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

shawn rettstatt?? visionary????????? ted pls

Rettstatt the Rd Wrecker is a visionary in a negative way.

 

[tony]

Is the loose approximation of a theme the same?

Absolutely, thank Shawn Rettstatt, the visionary.

 

[her grace]

Is the loose approximation of a theme the same?

Yes

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Yes, Ted you can indeed make the wrong change

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Cameras deciding that a girl intently eating what appears to be a crepe with nutella is a great subject for international broadcast

 

[her grace]

I mean, let’s get rid of jumps in singles, that’s visionary!

 

[tony]

Mark trying to explain these changes are going to help the longevity of the sport. What does it matter? People sit and play bingo and talk about costumes and judging politics more than learning the rules. Year after year. It won't matter if the rules go back to what they were in 1980 and go back to traditional ways.

 

[Theatregirl1122]

I would not say Shawn Rettstatt is open-minded and a visionary. I mean, these rhythm dance themes? The going away from foundations to heavy on choreographic sequences that get top GOE thrown at top teams?

He is if you were intent on designing a scoring system and set of themes that best suited Fear and Gibson.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

I blocked out everything before the "visionary" comment. Did Ted & Mark mention which new ice dance horrors may be coming our way?

 

[Sally1214]

It's that moment when you're sitting in the audience eating a sandwich and a little bit of meat is sticking out between your lips (you can't quite suck it all in) and .... voila .... there you are on the big screen!!

 

[Karen-W]

I really love Elliana's dress. That's all.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

. What does it matter? People sit and play bingo and talk about costumes and judging politics more than learning the rules.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[Rukia]

there's not a lot of boogie in these shoes but maybe i just don't get the vision

no i will not let this go any time soon

 

[Theatregirl1122]

This dress would be lovely for a lyrical FD, but I'm unsure how it suites Boogie Shoes.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

Since were' getting "21st century dances" next year, I really wish we were getting a waltz or a tango this year.

 

[tony]

This looked like a lot of work. Twizzles so.. scrunched up in the bodies, the pattern steps performed very cautiously, even the lift didn't really have oomph.

I know, I know. It's juniors. But everything they did seemed half-done.

 

[her grace]

Peal/Peal

Low level on first pattern and only 2 on second, I think they’ve performed this with more energy and elan in previous performances this season

 

[Theatregirl1122]

Eliana looks like a whole adult compared to any of my 17 year olds. I assume it's the makeup.

 

[Former Lurve Goddess]

I know the term is meaningless but so many of this year's RDs don't resemble any recognizable social dance.

 

[Karen-W]

there's not a lot of boogie in these shoes but maybe i just don't get the vision

no i will not let this go any time soon

Please, don't. FSU as a whole needs to embrace this new definition of the word "visionary" and make it a regular part of our snark.