2023 NHK Trophy Mens FS - The Last Stumbler Guys

Andrey aka Pushkin

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Well... Yuma is wonderful and all, but most of all this LP makes me want to rewatch Papadakis/Cizeron.

Everything is wonderful, but just a bit of sophistication is missing for me to see him being as good as Shoma.
 

Karen-W

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Yuma - I am 100% positive I made older niece a cape out of the exact same fabric as his shirt about 15 years ago and then repurposed it into a formal dress for her a couple years later.

Anyway, even with the fall on the 3A, I think he's done enough to win given the lead he had from the SP.
 

victorskid

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Free Skate results:
1Shoma UNOJPN186.3594.9492.419.219.189.361.00#11
2Yuma KAGIYAMA JPN182.8893.2790.619.188.899.141.00#12
3Lukas BRITSCHGI SUI168.1885.6682.528.328.398.070.00#10
4Nika EGADZE GEO156.0483.4173.637.327.367.431.00#6
5Tatsuya TSUBOI JPN151.9982.1070.897.076.867.361.00#1
6Gabriele FRANGIPANI ITA148.9574.3974.567.437.507.460.00#5
7Aleksandr SELEVKO EST145.5870.7574.837.437.547.500.00#4
8Camden PULKINEN USA142.9267.4375.497.467.507.710.00#9
9Deniss VASILJEVS LAT139.8158.6282.198.298.188.211.00#8
10Wesley CHIU CAN137.1468.0870.067.046.867.141.00#2
11Luc ECONOMIDES FRA136.8862.1974.697.467.687.290.00#3
12Mihhail SELEVKO EST126.2755.7072.577.397.117.292.00#7



Overall results:
1.Yuma KAGIYAMA
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JPN
12288.39
2.Shoma UNO
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JPN
21286.55
3.Lukas BRITSCHGI
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SUI
33254.60
4.Nika EGADZE
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GEO
74237.34
5.Camden PULKINEN
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USA
48229.32
6.Gabriele FRANGIPANI
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ITA
86227.15
7.Deniss VASILJEVS
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LAT
59221.95
8.Aleksandr SELEVKO
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EST
97221.43
9.Tatsuya TSUBOI
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JPN
125216.62
10.Luc ECONOMIDES
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FRA
1011211.12
11.Wesley CHIU
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CAN
1110209.16
12.Mihhail SELEVKO
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EST
612207.58


Protocols link: http://www.isuresults.com/results/season2324/gpjpn2023/data0105.pdf
 

Holy Headband

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This wouldn’t have been possible without the scales magically falling from the tech panel’s eyes just in time for Shoma’s performance, which makes me wonder if JSF is politicking for Yuma now…? But why would they when Shoma is their reigning WC, unless he’s told them he’s retiring after this season and also they hate him?

I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve to get calls, but if I were him I’d actually be insulted lol.

Whatever, back to Yuma NHK Trophy winner!!! :encore:I need a clean program from him next, and then to see a 3rd quad in the free.
 

SkateFanBerlin

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Missed competition but guessed close to right. I had Uno fighting back and beating Yuma. Well, in the long yes. Had Britschgiin thrid, even Camden somewhere down around 5th or 6th.
 

her grace

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Watching the replay and mini-grace wanted to fast forward Kagiyama because he fell. I started explaining about his beautiful bladework and she said, “If I wanted to watch his blades and not his emotion, then what would I be doing here?” Maybe she’ll become an ice dance fan yet. :p
 

Bunny Hop

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Watching the replay and mini-grace wanted to fast forward Kagiyama because he fell. I started explaining about his beautiful bladework and she said, “If I wanted to watch his blades and not his emotion, then what would I be doing here?” Maybe she’ll become an ice dance fan yet. :p
Some of us watch the blades in ice dance... :shuffle:
 

YukiNieve

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Shoma's comment after the free skate for NHK Trophy becomes the talk of the town among Japanese media/fans. This is a bit difficult topic to translate but I think it is an important topic, so I hope I did an acceptable translation here.

Please note: Shoma is NOT criticizing the rules or the way his skating was judged. He is quite a different kind of skater who really keeps saying he does not care much about win/lose/placement; what he truly cares about is whether or not he can skate that satisfies himself.

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After the awards ceremony, Uno showed up in the mix zone and stated how he was feeling, while carefully choosing his words and repeatedly emphasizing that he is not criticizing anything.

"I don't think I can do any better than today's jumps even in practice, so if this is the standard for the future, I think it's totally OK. But if this becomes the standard, this is my limit and this is the competition that makes me think that I cannot go any further than this."

What he referred to was his 4 quadruple jumps. Especially, on his 4Lo and 4F in the beginning of the program, he felt that "I thought they were clean," "I don't think I can do any better than today's jumps even in practice." But both of them were marked with "q", which indicates insufficient rotations, and the points were deducted. The same went true for his two 4Ts, resulting in 4 out of 4 quads receiving "q" marks. He could not fully digest the discrepancy between how he felt about the jumps himself and how they were judged.

This season Uno has been aiming for "the performance I want to see again myself" as his top priority rather than placements and scores. With that goal in mind, he is in the midst of searching for the meaning of keep competing. Because of that (he says) "Honestly, this is the competition that made me wonder a little why I need to keep competing. It is just my opinion. It really is just my opinion, and I am not criticizing the scores or the rules."

One of his goals was to please his coach Lambiel, which has been achieved. Regardless of the judgement, his mentor praised his skating more than anyone else. "Stéphane was also very happy and I think it was a good performance." He nodded as if confirming the standard of value for himself.

https://www.nikkansports.com/sports/news/202311250001947.html?s=09 (in Japanese)
 
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kwanfan1818

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I've just caught up with the Men, at least the ones I had the patience to watch all of the way through.

I love Kagiyama, who is, by far, my favorite of the current men, and I'm not an Uno fan. But the way Uno skated to the pulse of the music was exquisite, and the way he moved his full body as if he didn't have to compensate for being on skates, for me, was more-than. He painted the music with his body.
 

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