2023 John Nicks International Pairs Challenge / Middle Atlantics NQS (NYC club comp., Sept. 6-9)

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The 3rd John Nicks International Pairs Challenge takes place on Wednesday & Thursday, Sept. 6-7, 2023, at Chelsea Piers' Sky Rink in New York City, hosted by the Skating Club of New York together with their annual club competition ("Mids" for short): https://www.thescny.org/index.php/john-nicks-pairs-challenge

Wednesday in the WEST Rink (times could change):
Junior Pairs SP: 1:15-2:15 PM Eastern time
Senior Pairs SP: 2:30-5:00 PM

Thursday in the WEST Rink (times could change):
Junior Pairs FS: 10:50-11:45 AM
Senior Pairs FS: 12 noon-2:45 PM

Senior and Junior Pairs SP starting orders should appear -- after the draws scheduled for tomorrow morning -- on the John Nicks Pairs Challenge results page: https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33717/index.htm

Senior Pairs
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No. Name Nation
1 Sophia SCHALLER / Livio MAYR AUT
2 Ashlyn SCHMITZ / Tristan TAYLOR CAN
3 Camille KOVALEV / Pavel KOVALEV FRA
4 Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA ITA
5 Isabella GAMEZ / Aleksandr KOROVIN PHI
6 Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD SWE (new coach Bruno Massot is with them in NYC)
7 Grace HANNS / Danny NEUDECKER USA
8 Chelsea LIU / Balazs NAGY USA (I've heard unofficially that they have WD)
9 Isabelle MARTINS / Ryan BEDARD USA
10 Maria MOKHOVA / Ivan MOKHOV USA
11 Nina OUELLETTE / Rique NEWBY-ESTRELLA USA
12 Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ USA

Junior Pairs
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Sofia ENKINA / Nikita KOVALENKO ISR (new; 7th in their JGP debut in Linz last week)
2 Saya CARPENTER / Jon MARAVILLA USA (re-teamed this season; not yet listed publicly in the ISP)
3 Ashley FLETCHER / Aaron FELBERBAUM USA (new; recently added to ISP & their international debut)

Senior Pairs NQS (4 registered) - :
Alisa Efimova/Misha Mitrofanov (I've heard unofficially that they have WD)
Linzy Fitzpatrick/Keyton Bearinger
Ellie Korytek/Timmy Chapman
Katie McBeath/Daniil Parkman (their 2nd NQS after Glacier Falls; have arrived in NYC)

Junior Pairs NQS (2):
Sydney Cooke/Matthew Kennedy (new)
Reagan Moss/Jakub Galbavy (new; he competed for SVK in singles and has been released to compete for USA starting next season)

NQS Pairs SP starting orders will appear be on the Middle Atlantics results page (linked below).

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The 97th Annual Middle Atlantic Figure Skating Championships (NQS for singles & pairs) is Sept. 6-9, 2023: https://www.thescny.org/index.php/mids
Starting orders will show up on this page eventually are posted on the Results page: https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33420/index.asp
(There are non-qualifying events on Sunday, Sept. 10.)

"Mids" & John Nicks have never been livestreamed in the past, unfortunately.
ADMISSION: Each competitor will receive one (1) competitor’s pass, one (1) chaperone pass and one (1) pass for his or her coach, as named on the entry form. There will be a small admission fee for all other admissions; proceeds go to the SCNY Scholarship Fund.
From what I was told, admission is $10/day or $15 for both days (includes Middle Atlantics NQS comp. events.

I hope you enjoy @TDsk8 (and maybe report back here if you can :)):
...
Looking forward 😊
 
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Edited. Deleted the links.
 
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Then what are they exactly?
I'm not sure what their purpose is exactly, but I've seen similar links for other skating competitions and they never have an actual live stream. I think they're an attempt to trick people into subscribing to the channel and data-mine, but I'm not positive.
 

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I'm not sure what their purpose is exactly, but I've seen similar links for other skating competitions and they never have an actual live stream. I think they're an attempt to trick people into subscribing to the channel and data-mine, but I'm not positive.
Darn! I was hoping it was the real thing so we could watch.
 

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Darn! I was hoping it was the real thing so we could watch.
@Simone411 would you consider deleting those YT links you posted so that no one here clicks on them? Usually a tipoff that they're fake is the skater displayed (such as Hanyu, etc.) has nothing to do with the competition.

ETA: And @Karen-W maybe you could delete the quoted part you posted in post #3 above?
 
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The 3rd John Nicks International Pairs Challenge takes place on Wednesday & Thursday, Sept. 6-7, 2023, at Chelsea Piers' Sky Rink in New York City, hosted by the Skating Club of New York together with their annual club competition ("Mids" for short): https://www.thescny.org/index.php/john-nicks-pairs-challenge

Wednesday in the WEST Rink (times could change):
Junior Pairs SP: 1:15-2:15 PM Eastern time
Senior Pairs SP: 2:30-5:00 PM

Thursday in the WEST Rink (times could change):
Junior Pairs FS: 10:50-11:45 AM
Senior Pairs FS: 12 noon-2:45 PM

Senior and Junior Pairs SP starting orders should appear -- after the draws scheduled for tomorrow morning -- on the John Nicks Pairs Challenge results page: https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33717/index.htm

Senior Pairs
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Sophia SCHALLER / Livio MAYR AUT
2 Ashlyn SCHMITZ / Tristan TAYLOR CAN
3 Camille KOVALEV / Pavel KOVALEV FRA
4 Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA ITA
5 Isabella GAMEZ / Aleksandr KOROVIN PHI
6 Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD SWE (new coach Bruno Massot is with them in NYC)
7 Grace HANNS / Danny NEUDECKER USA
8 Chelsea LIU / Balazs NAGY USA (I've heard unofficially that they have WD)
9 Isabelle MARTINS / Ryan BEDARD USA
10 Maria MOKHOVA / Ivan MOKHOV USA
11 Nina OUELLETTE / Rique NEWBY-ESTRELLA USA
12 Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ USA

Junior Pairs
Entries
No. Name Nation
1 Sofia ENKINA / Nikita KOVALENKO ISR (new; 7th in their JGP debut in Linz last week)
2 Saya CARPENTER / Jon MARAVILLA USA (re-teamed this season; not yet listed publicly in the ISP)
3 Ashley FLETCHER / Aaron FELBERBAUM USA (new; recently added to ISP & their international debut)

Senior Pairs NQS (4 registered) - :
Alisa Efimova/Misha Mitrofanov (I've heard unofficially that they have WD)
Linzy Fitzpatrick/Keyton Bearinger
Ellie Korytek/Timmy Chapman
Katie McBeath/Daniil Parkman (their 2nd NQS after Glacier Falls; have arrived in NYC)

Junior Pairs NQS (2):
Sydney Cooke/Matthew Kennedy (new)
Reagan Moss/Jakub Galbavy (new; he competed for SVK in singles and has been released to compete for USA starting next season)

NQS Pairs SP starting orders will appear be on the Middle Atlantics results page (linked below).

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The 97th Annual Middle Atlantic Figure Skating Championships (NQS for singles & pairs) is Sept. 6-9, 2023: https://www.thescny.org/index.php/mids
Starting orders will show up on this page eventually: https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33420/index.asp
(There are non-qualifying events on Sunday, Sept. 10.)
Starting Orders for Middle Atlantics are up and your information about Efimova/Mitrofanov is correct. :(

Entries haven't been updated for John Nicks IPC, but I don't doubt your information about Liu/Nagy also WDing is accurate based upon a comment Dave Lease had about Champs Camp during his TSL broadcast earlier today.
 

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The 97th Annual Middle Atlantic Figure Skating Championships (NQS for singles & pairs) is Sept. 6-9, 2023: https://www.thescny.org/index.php/mids
Starting orders will show up on this page eventually: https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33420/index.asp
Starting orders are posted for Mids.

Junior Pairs SP (NQS) starting order (Wednesday):
1 Reagan Moss, SC of New York / Jakub Galbavy [previously competed in singles for SVK], SC of New York (new)
2 Sydney Cooke, Elite Edge SC / Matthew Kennedy, Patriot FSC (new)

Senior Pairs SP (NQS) starting order (Wednesday):
1 Ellie Korytek, SC of New York / Timmy Chapman, SC of New York (2023 Junior champs)
2 Linzy Fitzpatrick, SC of New York / Keyton Bearinger, SC of New York
3 Katie McBeath, Winterhurst FSC / Daniil Parkman, SC of New York
(WD before the comp.: Efimova/Mitrofanov)

Senior Women SP (17 listed): Isabeau Levito, Sarah Everhardt, Ting Cui, Alexa Gasparotto are in the starting order for Friday night.

Senior Men SP (4): Maxim Zharkov, Nathan Chapple, Emmanuel Savary, Ken Fitterer (GBR) are the 4 listed for the SP on Friday night (final event).

Junior Men SP (the event scheduled right before the Senior Women SP): Jacob Sanchez, Aleksandr Fegan, Kirk Haugeto, Antonio Monaco, Zachary LoPinto, Lucius Kazanecki, and Jared Sedlis are the 7 currently listed in the ISP; plus Tamir Kuperman (ISR) who placed 7th at the JGP in Bangkok, and Lucas Fitterer (GBR).

24 Junior Women in the SP (schedule right before the Junior Men SP) includes Jiaying Ellyse Johnson, Ela Cui, Juliana Barshay (all 3 are in the ISP), plus Sofia Bezkorovainaya.
 
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Starting Orders are finally up -

Senior - https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33717/SEG001.htm
StN.NameNation
Warm-Up Group 1
1Sophia SCHALLER / Livio MAYR
AUT.GIF
AUT
2Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA
ITA.GIF
ITA
3Maria MOKHOVA / Ivan MOKHOV
USA.GIF
USA
4Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD
SWE.GIF
SWE
Warm-Up Group 2
5Nina OUELLETTE / Rique NEWBY-ESTRELLA
USA.GIF
USA
6Ashlyn SCHMITZ / Tristan TAYLOR
CAN.GIF
CAN
7Camille KOVALEV / Pavel KOVALEV
FRA.GIF
FRA
8Grace HANNS / Danny NEUDECKER
USA.GIF
USA
Warm-Up Group 3
9Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ
USA.GIF
USA
10Isabelle MARTINS / Ryan BEDARD
USA.GIF
USA
11Isabella GAMEZ / Aleksandr KOROVIN
PHI.GIF
PHI

Junior - https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33717/SEG003.htm
 

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John Nicks International Senior Pairs SP Starting Order has been updated to correct the groups to 3-4-4 (teams with updated ISU bios are linked below): https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33717/SEG001.htm

Warm-Up Group 1
1 Sophia SCHALLER / Livio MAYR AUT http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00114105.htm
2 Anna VALESI / Manuel PIAZZA ITA
3 Maria MOKHOVA / Ivan MOKHOV USA http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00114474.htm

Warm-Up Group 2
4 Greta CRAFOORD / John CRAFOORD SWE
5 Nina OUELLETTE / Rique NEWBY-ESTRELLA USA
6 Ashlyn SCHMITZ / Tristan TAYLOR CAN
7 Camille KOVALEV / Pavel KOVALEV FRA

Warm-Up Group 3
8 Grace HANNS / Danny NEUDECKER USA
9 Valentina PLAZAS / Maximiliano FERNANDEZ USA http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00114473.htm
10 Isabelle MARTINS / Ryan BEDARD USA http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00108108.htm
11 Isabella GAMEZ / Aleksandr KOROVIN PHI http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00113788.htm

(Not listed: Chelsea Liu/Balazs Nagy - WD before the SP draw)

Sofia ENKINA / Nikita KOVALENKO (ISR Junior): http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00117684.htm
 

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Junior International SP protocols: https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/lea...OR----QUAL000100--_JudgesDetailsperSkater.pdf

Pl.NameNationTSS
=
TES
+
PCS
+
COPRSKDed.
-
StN.
1​
Sofia ENKINA / Nikita KOVALENKOISR
38.36​
21.20​
17.16​
4.45​
4.15​
4.30​
0.00​
#1​
2​
Saya CARPENTER / Jon MARAVILLAUSA
38.06​
20.70​
17.36​
4.40​
4.20​
4.45​
0.00​
#3​
3​
Ashley FLETCHER / Aaron FELBERBAUMUSA
36.78​
18.76​
19.02​
4.75​
4.85​
4.70​
1.00​
#2​

NQS Junior Pairs SP results (protocols will be linked from here): https://ijs.usfigureskating.org/leaderboard/results/2023/33420/CAT010SEG001.html
1 Reagan Moss, SC of New York / Jakub Galbavy, SC of New York 37.98
2 Sydney Cooke, Elite Edge SC / Matthew Kennedy, Patriot FSC 35.48
 

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Korytek/Chapman are now listed as WD from the NQS senior pairs.
 

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I don't know if the skates weren't great for all the teams or the technical panel is really tough but the protocols are not great in terms of levels and BV 😳
I think that you probably should adjust your expectations for typical junior teams. Most junior teams except the very top ones are doing double twists and throws. Everything looks pretty standard, especially if you compare scores/protocols of these teams to the ones who competed in Austria last week.
 

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Enkina/Kovalenko today in SP scored 38.36 [21.20 / 17.16]
1 2Tw1 2.80 0.11 0 0 -1 1 1 1 0 2.91
2 2A 3.30 0.33 1 1 1 2 1 1 1 3.63
3 3LoTh 5.00 -1.70 -3 -3 -4 -3 -4 -4 -3 3.30
4 3LiB 3.50 -1.19 -4 -4 -4 -3 -2 -3 -3 2.31
5 FiDs1 2.90 0.17 1 0 0 0 1 1 1 3.07
6 StSq4 3.90 0.47 -2 1 0 2 1 2 2 4.37
7 CCoSp2V 1.88 -0.27 -2 -1 -2 -1 -1 0 -2 1.61
= 21.20 [23.28 base value]

Last week in Linz, Enkina/Kovalenko's SP scores were 39.32 [20.37 / 19.95 -1.00]
1 2Tw2 3.00 0.04 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 -1 0 3.04
2 2A 3.30 0.57 2 2 1 1 2 2 1 2 2 3.87
3 3LoTh F 5.00 -2.50 -5 -4 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 -5 2.50
4 3LiB 3.50 -1.25 -3 -4 -4 -4 -2 -1 -4 -4 -4 2.25
5 FiDs2 3.20 0.05 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 -3 3.25
6 StSq3 3.30 0.14 1 1 -1 0 1 0 0 1 0 3.44
7 CCoSp2V 1.88 0.14 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 2 1 2.02
= 23.18 [20.37 base value]
 

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I think that you probably should adjust your expectations for typical junior teams. Most junior teams except the very top ones are doing double twists and throws. Everything looks pretty standard, especially if you compare scores/protocols of these teams to the ones who competed in Austria last week.
It's not the elements difficulty but it's the levels. Vs and level 1/2s on the spins, Base on the twist. That kind of stuff.

EDIT- This is a good panel with Troy on it. They will be judging fairly, jgp/gp level.
 

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Received from the rink re. Valesi/Piazza: “Italians looked good. Lovely triples easily done. Lovely death spiral. Good spins. Only flaw she had big turnout on throw. 53.39 in 1st”
 

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Heard from a source first three teams did minor mistakes but the score announcement is so slow and not very loud 🥲
 

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"Crafoords beautiful twist, landed throw, he turned out of 2A, good exit on lift. Big Band light & happy music, nice program choreography."

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John with issues on the 2a - tell me something unsurprising, lol.
 

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John with issues on the 2a - tell me something unsurprising, lol.
He's a big boy but luckily Bruno might be able to give him some tips 😉

The fact that he didn't pop or fall is already a level up and they have been moving between aljona in CO, Germany, netherlands, A LOT recently. Hopefully they will settle in France.
 

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He's a big boy but luckily Bruno might be able to give him some tips 😉

The fact that he didn't pop or fall is already a level up and they have been moving between aljona in CO, Germany, netherlands, A LOT recently. Hopefully they will settle in France.
Eh, they were fairly settled last year in the Netherlands when Aljona was there. I do hope they'll improve with Bruno, but none of Bruno's other teams impressed me much last season...
 

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Eh, they were fairly settled last year in the Netherlands when Aljona was there. I do hope they'll improve with Bruno, but none of Bruno's other teams impressed me much last season...
Off topic but I think Oxana and Flavian are settling in to their skills! Bruno honestly needs help- does he have a secondary help coaching?
 

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