2020 U.S. Presidential Election

MsZem

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What, you don't consider the NY Post and Daily Mail reliable sources? :rofl:
See, even some people at the NY Post have standards!
 

VGThuy

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Interesting write up about how some in Trump’s most loyal base (white men without college degrees) are jumping ship.


But with the election around the corner, some white men are starting to feel a little less loyal to the man who has promised them the moon and the stars. An NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll showed that Trump's lead among white male voters without college degrees has dropped from an enormous 35 points to a significant but narrowing 19 points. Every election cycle, we hear that white men can't be swayed, but what about the ones who can no longer justify staying in Trump's Republican Party?

I’m sure the drop won’t be that drastic once the voter tallies are in, but the quotes in the article are interesting. I’m glad Trump made some of them realize what toxic masculinity is and saw past the charade of Trump’s performative masculinity and see what a true insecure wimpy bully he is. That’s not the type of manhood anybody should aspire to have. In fact, people who see how Trump acts and thinks it’s THE image of masculinity are pathetic and makes me wonder about them.
 

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The thing I find interesting about this election is that normally polls tighten as you get closer to Election Day. This time they are widening, at least in some places. I think part of this is the unique circumstances of this election but also because so many are already voting.

With so much absentee voting and so much early voting, any poll tightening we see in future races will probably happen earlier in the cycle IMO. I wonder if the debates will also happen earlier as well.
 

caseyedwards

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4 more means 13 and even though there are 13 original colonies I still think 15 makes more sense and all democrats will unanimously vote for 15 Supreme Court justices
 

MsZem

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Florida will now go through voter rolls in an attempt to enforce their law that anyone who hasn't settled court-debts, is allowed to vote. Previously, they had not found anyone on voter rolls who might not be eligible to vote. https://www.politico.com/states/flo...ns-from-voter-rolls-as-election-looms-1325582
They don't actually know how much money people owe.
 

Susan1

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caught my eye this morning -

"“Under the Biden lockdown, the lights of Reno and Las Vegas were extinguished,” he said.

Yet Trump was president during the lockdowns this year. Biden was a private citizen with no government role at all."

""If he comes in, Carson City will become a ghost town and the Christmas season will be canceled,” Trump said.

Biden would not take office until Jan. 20 ― well after the Christmas season ― should he win the election. The former vice president is also a practicing Catholic who celebrates the holiday."

Tweet in story -


Jonah Blank


Fun fact: -I staffed
@joebiden
for nearly a decade. Every year, he threw a Christmas party for staff. Bonus fact: -He alternated the site between his home in Wilmington & his DC office. To show that staff based in the Capital were no more highly-valued than those in Delaware.
 

Susan1

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See, even some people at the NY Post have standards!
I like this part - 'Giuliani told the Times he brought his documents to the Post because "either nobody else would take it, or if they took it, they would spend all the time they could to try to contradict it before they put it out."
Well, duh. You mean like actual investigative journalism? :rolleyes:
 

Meoima

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I’m sure the drop won’t be that drastic once the voter tallies are in, but the quotes in the article are interesting. I’m glad Trump made some of them realize what toxic masculinity is and saw past the charade of Trump’s performative masculinity and see what a true insecure wimpy bully he is. That’s not the type of manhood anybody should aspire to have. In fact, people who see how Trump acts and thinks it’s THE image of masculinity are pathetic and makes me wonder about them.
I am a bit :confused::confused::confused: at their intelligence. I saw folks who vote for the current president saying words like: voting for him means saving the country from socialism, that is the only way we have a future.
Feel fortunate that I do not have to call them my fellow people.
 

olympic

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I don't recognize the 2nd quote as something I would say. That is not my phraseology ...

BTW, I am appreciating that the Hunter Biden story is falling apart
 

VGThuy

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Being from Louisiana, the term “draining the swamp” has always been weird because swamps and wetlands serve vital purposes as natural buffers against natural disasters like hurricanes and are the home of so many species and many people rely on the ecosystem to make a living. I guess it is appropriate if Trump drained it considering the state of our country now.
 

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You think CNN is a "reliable source"?

I watch every Sunday morning! It just reports "on the news;" not the news itself! It hits all the other cable news channels; esp. if they're out of line in some way! I watch Fox News and have been terribly amused by how the talent rails against Biden, his son Hunter, and invoke Hillary's email, & her "Steele Report!" The desperation is real as they repeat that mantra over and over, but every commercial break has the best Biden/Harris ADs! Trump's running out of money and he's now working hard to hold onto his base! Texas, SC, & FLA are in play while he's already down precipitously in other states he won like AZ, Wisc., Penn., & of course Michigan! He's doing himself no favors attacking the Gov. who just dodged a kidnapping and possible sentence of death! :40beers:
 

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To me this is confounding:

From a survey done in September (so may have changed):

Issues of concern to a majority of voters in each party:

Here’s what made the list for Democrats: the ******** ********* (85 percent), health care (73 percent), foreign interference in American elections (69 percent), racial inequality (68 percent), fairness of elections (68 percent), climate change (64 percent), the growing gap between the rich and poor (62 percent), and jobs and employment (58 percent).

The Republican list was much shorter: crime (58 percent), terrorism (57 percent), and fairness of presidential elections (55 percent).

for Republicans, not the *********? not jobs and unemployment? not health care? :confused: I mean, its not asking how you address those issues, just whether they are a top concern. :eek:


Any thoughts of what accounts for this?
 

caseyedwards

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To me this is confounding:

From a survey done in September (so may have changed):

Issues of concern to a majority of voters in each party:



for Republicans, not the *********? not jobs and unemployment? not health care? :confused: I mean, its not asking how you address those issues, just whether they are a top concern. :eek:


Any thoughts of what accounts for this?
Obviously Fox coverage of antifa and the riots/burnings/looting
Crime of antifa
Terror of antifa
Mass mailings of paper ballots
 

Dobre

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Meoima

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They are your fellow people, unless you aren't a person.
I am not American though. I do not share my nationality with them so... If I want to mention the humanity I would have used the word "human being", right? Or maybe my English is not good enough, sorry. I am not a native speaker.
 

Vagabond

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To me this is confounding:

From a survey done in September (so may have changed):

Issues of concern to a majority of voters in each party:



for Republicans, not the *********? not jobs and unemployment? not health care? :confused: I mean, its not asking how you address those issues, just whether they are a top concern. :eek:


Any thoughts of what accounts for this?
Posters here link to webpages like this from time to time.
Republican philosophy is grounded in the basic rights granted to individuals, and thus they tend to support smaller government, fewer regulations, and more personal empowerment. Because Republican thought is centered in the part of the brain that deals with the evolutionary fight-or-flight response, it makes sense that their platform centers on issues of national defense, such as securing our borders and beefing up the military.

Democrats, however, are often crusaders for the greater good, advocating for civil rights, fair play, and a national security strategy based on alliances. This jibes with the basic functions of the insula, where their risk assessment takes place.
Fewer Republicans (and fewer people generally) have you-know-what than don't. Fewer Republicans (and fewer people generally) are unemployed than are employed. As a result, to Republicans, these do not rise to the level concern that the mere possibility of a home invasion or a territorial invasion do.
 

Susan1

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He's back on his cutbacks of water regulations -


 

Vagabond

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I am not American though. I do not share my nationality with them so... If I want to mention the humanity I would have used the word "human being", right? Or maybe my English is not good enough, sorry. I am not a native speaker.
Perhaps you would be so kind as to identify your country specifically so that we can deride your countrymen the way you enjoy deriding ours. :saint:
 

jenny12

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Perhaps you would be so kind as to identify your country specifically so that we can deride your countrymen the way you enjoy deriding ours. :saint:

There are stupid (or shall we say ignorant people) in every country and the people who think a Biden win will mean a South American socialist takeover are stupid or ignorant. Also stupid: having your masculinity defined by supporting a guy who thinks his balls shrink every time he puts on a mask.
 

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