2020 U.S. Presidential Election

MacMadame

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As long as we're talking about abortion, this woman is an anti-abortion Christian evangelical who didn't vote for Trump and resigned from Right to Life Ohio over her organization's support of Trump:


She says that evangelicals have been corrupted by the pursuit of power.
 

Aussie Willy

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As long as we're talking about abortion, this woman is an anti-abortion Christian evangelical who didn't vote for Trump and resigned from Right to Life Ohio over her organization's support of Trump:


She says that evangelicals have been corrupted by the pursuit of power.
Absolutely. They have only ever gotten rich because they have sucked money out of their supporters.

I would say that the reason why evangelicals make up Trump's support base because they appear to be the most gullible people on this planet and easily get sucked into shiny things. It also seems to go hand in hand being sucked into conspiracy theories as well.

I am sure there is a psychology study out there that has looked at this and what is it in someone's psychological makeup to blindly follow religion, Trump, conspiracy theories, etc. It appears to be very much the same kind of thinking that radicalises muslim extremists.

Interesting that when it comes down to it, while Trump supporters demonise one group, they are behaving exactly the same way. Maybe just not doing the same kind of thing.

Thus endth my totally assumptive psychology musings.
 

caseyedwards

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Well the Trump era ends next month and so it will all be over soon on one level. Then it’s all about Biden and what he does. Right now they are all unanimous he’s going to expand the Supreme Court to 15 to become total dictator of America! Is that right? lol!!!
 

Aussie Willy

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I haven't put much in the whole Biden expanding the SC because it is just another fearmongering tactic by Trump. His supporters truly believe, without any facts to back them up or no understanding what socialism actually is, that anything the Dems will do is going to destroy their country.
 

caseyedwards

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I haven't put much in the whole Biden expanding the SC because it is just another fearmongering tactic by Trump. His supporters truly believe, without any facts to back them up or no understanding what socialism actually is, that anything the Dems will do is going to destroy their country.
It was the official position of I believe all the democrats who ran for president

Kavanaugh gorsuch and Barrett must be erased in effect so that’s why Really all democrats Support 15
 

caseyedwards

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Can you show the policy for that?

Yes it’s from the debates and other democrats statements
Try again. From 2019:

He’s excluded of course, that’s the issue
Does he issue order for all democrats to oppose Court packing?
 

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I haven't put much in the whole Biden expanding the SC because it is just another fearmongering tactic by Trump. His supporters truly believe, without any facts to back them up or no understanding what socialism actually is, that anything the Dems will do is going to destroy their country.
It's pure projection. It's totally on brand.
 

Aussie Willy

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The Trump campaign took something Fauci said in March out of context and used it in a campaign ad without his knowledge. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/11/politics/fauci-trump-campaign-ad-out-of-context/index.html

This kind of worries me as it suggests Fauci supports him and if they keep doing this, it might sway some voters.
Like their orange leader, this is the only way they know how to campaign is by putting out lies. It has been bad in the past but I think because Trump lies all the time and people believe him, they KNOW they can say anything and get away with it.

The standard you walk by is the standard you accept. That is now the standard.
 

Sparks

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The Manhattan DA has been sitting on a lot of stuff. Vance knows the history, yet he refused to do anything.
That is why Eliza Orlins is running against him.
 

Judy

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Fat lot of good it would do him with the Manhattan DA and the NY AG coming after him.

What would happen though if they don’t press charges until after Trump is out? Then you’re likely looking at years of court.
 

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The Trump campaign took something Fauci said in March out of context and used it in a campaign ad without his knowledge. https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/11/politics/fauci-trump-campaign-ad-out-of-context/index.html

This kind of worries me as it suggests Fauci supports him and if they keep doing this, it might sway some voters.

They may be sorry as Dr. Fauci is obviously highly irritated and pushing back very strongly, and this just brings public attention to it. Also, the White House blocked him from appearing on a TV show this weekend, then lied about blocking him, only to have the show post the e-mails from the White House blocking him. Yet another example of the gang that couldn't shoot straight...
 

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They may be sorry as Dr. Fauci is obviously highly irritated and pushing back very strongly, and this just brings public attention to it. Also, the White House blocked him from appearing on a TV show this weekend, then lied about blocking him, only to have the show post the e-mails from the White House blocking him. Yet another example of the gang that couldn't shoot straight...
Unfortunately those who think Fauci should be sacked won't believe him anyway. They think he is tied to Gate's vaccine program and also a pharmaceutical that stands to benefit from a vaccine. Just another conspiracy that was started on Facebook to discredit anyone who contradicts Trump.
 

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Unfortunately those who think Fauci should be sacked won't believe him anyway. They think he is tied to Gate's vaccine program and also a pharmaceutical that stands to benefit from a vaccine. Just another conspiracy that was started on Facebook to discredit anyone who contradicts Trump.

Polls show that Dr. Fauci is trusted more than Trump. The "base" isn't going to be moved no matter what Trump's ads depict. I was thinking of the public that believes Dr. Fauci (almost 70%) - they need to know he didn't willingly participate in this ad. And by his making a big deal of his annoyance, that gets his message across.
 

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Can Fauci sue to get it stopped? And if he sues, can Trump fire him?
To quote one of my law professors, "You can always sue; the question is whether you can win."

There is a common-law cause of action called false light. Whether Fauci could maintain an action for it or prevail on such a claim, I cannot say without knowing more. Fauci is, however, a civil servant, not an appointee. Therefore, Trump cannot fire him.
 

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Well the Trump era ends next month and so it will all be over soon on one level. Then it’s all about Biden and what he does. Right now they are all unanimous he’s going to expand the Supreme Court to 15 to become total dictator of America! Is that right? lol!!!
It will not end next month. Even if there is a Biden win, Trump is still President until Jan 20. He can do a hell of a lot of damage to the US and the world. No matter the outcome he will still be president
 

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To quote one of my law professors, "You can always sue; the question is whether you can win."

There is a common-law cause of action called false light. Whether Fauci could maintain an action for it or prevail on such a claim, I cannot say without knowing more. Fauci is, however, a civil servant, not an appointee. Therefore, Trump cannot fire him.

I know he has already objected to it via media.
 

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That's probably all he should do. Why waste money on attorney's fees and costs when you can just set the record straight?
Because Mr. T. was quoted earlier this evening as saying he is going to continue to run the ad...

So, Mr. Fauci should ask the networks to continue to run his rebuttal.
 

caseyedwards

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It will not end next month. Even if there is a Biden win, Trump is still President until Jan 20. He can do a hell of a lot of damage to the US and the world. No matter the outcome he will still be president

True but the whole context was about the Republican Party. Which Probably moves To make mitt Romney , John Kasich Jeb bush It’s new leader almost immediately
 

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