Japan closing borders due to Omicron--GPF canceled

[Karen-W]

Silver lining we won’t have to see Sinitsina/Katsalapov Rachmaninov Irish Riverdance more time (or those RD shirts). Twice this year has been traumatic enough.

Oh, but @Braulio gave us the Rach-Pirates edit and that is pure gold!

 

[SLIVER]

Oh, but @Braulio gave us the Rach-Pirates edit and that is pure gold!

That was definitely better than the real version!

 

[mjb52]

Yes, it will be nice to see it win at the Olympics instead.

 

[Flowerz]

Surely you see the irony here.

Yes I do, it does not make my point of view incorrect though, at most it could make me into a hypocrite, but I stand by what I said. Some skaters would not want to go to GPF (I agree) in April, but some would like to have that opportunity as alternates. But there are "know it all experts" on the forum who are saying GPF won't happen as if it's a sure fact based on the big possibility that some will want to not go then/withdraw. It does not work that way: You withdraw, there's three or more alternates ready to take your place.

 

[tony]

Some skaters would not want to go to GPF (I agree) in April, but some would like to have that opportunity as alternates. But there are "know it all experts" on the forum who are saying GPF won't happen as if it's a sure fact based on the big possibility that some will want to not go then/withdraw. It does not work that way: You withdraw, there's three or more alternates ready to take your place.

You selectively quoted me specifically and I said nothing of the type about actually knowing facts. If I actually knew it definitely wasn’t happening, I would’ve stated so. You’re going to do so well here.

You’re also throwing a hissy fit about it now and acting like one or two skaters saying no is no reason to cancel. If the majority of skaters across the board don’t want a change in the flow of normal events (just as in the Worlds example I gave you) and the ISU doesn’t want to reschedule till after Worlds, then that’s what happens. That will be the way it works. Not how you want it to work. Kostornaia and Shcherbakova would’ve been battling for gold in 2020 most likely and they both openly said when Worlds was canceled that they just continued training and didn’t let it bother them. I guarantee skaters are less uptight about this than some fans.

 

[Flowerz]

You’re going to do so well here.

I don't understand what you are trying to say.

 

[Flowerz]

You’re also throwing a hissy fit

To quote another poster here, I hope you see the irony in that.
You have no way of knowing how I'm actually feeling while I'm responding on this forum. But go off. I'm not gonna argue anymore, I usually don't even post on this forum. Even though I read a lot and it's been years since I've read posts in here I only have 20 posts.

 

[Braulio]

Yes, it will be nice to see it win at the Olympics instead.

How dare you?

 

[Carolla5501]

To quote another poster here, I hope you see the irony in that.
You have no way of knowing how I'm actually feeling while I'm responding on this forum. But go off. I'm not gonna argue anymore, I usually don't even post on this forum. Even though I read a lot and it's been years since I've read posts in here I only have 20 posts.

Is there some special reason you thought you should tell us how many post you have. Because since you only post rarely we should all Know that only your posts are the important ones


At least you’re honest that you’re a hypocrite

 

[Sylvia]

Seems like we could use some Jason sunshine in this thread - his message in Japanese & English: https://www.instagram.com/p/CW-z5xesKeK/

 

[TheresMaude]

I have to admit I’ve lost track of some of the pertinent information about the Japan border closing, but do we have a clear or even emerging idea of how it will affect the Japanese skaters who train overseas?

 

[VGThuy]

I have to admit I’ve lost track of some of the pertinent information about the Japan border closing, but do we have a clear or even emerging idea of how it will affect the Japanese skaters who train overseas?

Me too. I'd like to know this as well. Thank you for asking.

 

[Sylvia]

I have to admit I’ve lost track of some of the pertinent information about the Japan border closing, but do we have a clear or even emerging idea of how it will affect the Japanese skaters who train overseas?

JSF is working on this issue: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...icron-gpf-canceled.109029/page-5#post-6126117

 

[greenapple]

I asked this question of a Japanese friend. She confirmed that citizens are permitted to return to Japan.

 

[Karen-W]

I asked this question of a Japanese friend. She confirmed that citizens are permitted to return to Japan.

But do they have to quarantine for a specific number of days? That is something that would impact the Japanese skaters training overseas who planned on flying over the week before Nationals.

 

[ostile17]

But do they have to quarantine for a specific number of days? That is something that would impact the Japanese skaters training overseas who planned on flying over the week before Nationals.

Yes, citizens will still have to quarantine for 14 days.

Foreign based athletes taking part in Nationals were always required to travel to Japan at least 14 days before the start of the competition, even before the recent ban. Therefore they should be all booked up for flights already.

What JSF/they are waiting for is a confirmation on whether or not elite athletes can have the same treatment as they have been having since last November, when they could quarantine while still training without going anywhere else but home ---> training site, and had to provide a daily plan of their whereabouts.

Although from this article it doesn't seem unlikely to happen for fear that the people would perceive the athletes as "special people".

I think this ban has all to do with politics and the new Japanese premier.

オミクロン株対策　どうなる待機特例　困惑する北京五輪関係者 | 毎日新聞

新型コロナウイルスの変異株「オミクロン株」対策で揺れ動く政府方針を巡り、北京冬季五輪開幕を来年2月に控える競技関係者には困惑が広がっている。航空各社への国際線新規予約の一律停止要請は2日、公表から一夜明けて撤回されたが、ある競技団体幹部は「早く方針を固めてもらわないと、にっちもさっちもいかない」と

mainichi.jp

 

[Jonas]

Selfishly, I would also like to see the Final take place even if it's at the end of this (Olympic) season. Heck, Russia can host it and offer up another LIVE broadcast on TV1 -- complete w/Ted Barton commentary!

Sure, many who would end up competing in Beijing would likely skip it, but I think it could still be a solid, competitive event. I think all of the junior qualifiers would jump at the chance for the prize money and additional competition experience. Many of the current alternates and at least two of the senior lady Russian qualifiers won't make it to the Olympics and/or Worlds this season, so why not offer them up this opportunity?!?!

 

[escaflowne9282]

Silver lining we won’t have to see Sinitsina/Katsalapov Rachmaninov Irish Riverdance more time (or those RD shirts). Twice this year has been traumatic enough.

It has actually been three times if you've seen the Russian test skates.

 

[mjb52]

How dare you?

sorry are we pre-judging events now? I didn't realize the result was already predetermined, excuse me. I'll remember that (some of) fsu has already decided on the winner of one of the divisions before I post next time lol.

but anywayyyyyy back to the GPF. It's a bit unfortunate in terms of the timing. A week earlier or a week later and it might have had a chance (or not).

 

[maatTheViking]

maybe Montreal could invite Piper and Gilles + Guignard and Fabbri (and Babs and stopwatch, sure seem like lots of teams needed that) to come perform and then have a mini dance GP, we could all rinse our brain of THE SHIRT and have a mini-dance GPF

in all seriousness, this sucks, I do think the GPF builds excitement for Olympics, as well as ranking points.

A reason to postpone is definitely prize money and ranking for NEXT season, especially for Juniors. But for many of the top seniors this might be their last season (and some have confirmed it), so would it make sense to go? It will be interesting what ISU will do.

it's already a busy season with the Olympics, where will they squeeze it in?

on that note, how many skaters do we expect going to 4CC? I expect the top US/Canadian teams will skip.

 

[mjb52]

Maybe they could just make the Olympics the Grand Prix Final as well and give double prize money.

 

[Cayuse]

Seems like we could use some Jason sunshine in this thread - his message in Japanese & English: https://www.instagram.com/p/CW-z5xesKeK/

We should all take a lesson from Jason's post! He has the right attitude. Be happy we were able to see the Grand Prix (live-streamed even!) event with live audiences. We fans were treated to everyone's new programs ahead of Nationals or the Olympics. We had plenty to things to discuss, complain about, offer suggestions for improvement in programs and costurmes, and to predict who would become the latest riders on the train. After the last two years of cancelled or restricted skating events we should rejoice in what we were able to witness. On a note of bigger concern, let's hope the Olympics are not cancelled.

 

[meggonzo]

Yes, it will be nice to see it win at the Olympics instead.

sorry are we pre-judging events now? I didn't realize the result was already predetermined, excuse me. I'll remember that (some of) fsu has already decided on the winner of one of the divisions before I post next time lol.

but anywayyyyyy back to the GPF. It's a bit unfortunate in terms of the timing. A week earlier or a week later and it might have had a chance (or not).

You were the one that just said S/K would win.

 

[thvu]

To quote another poster here, I hope you see the irony in that.

For this to be considered irony, @tony would have to be unknowingly throwing a “hissy fit,” and his statement about your behavior would have to also apply to his behavior. What @tony was doing was checking you, and pointing out your absurdities. Not the same thing.

You were throwing a hissy fit when you started arguing against a position he was not taking, using a straw man as a vehicle for you to be condescending. Again, not the same thing.

 

[Coco]

I'm not sure who introduced this gendered insult into this thread first, but it is usually in the eyes of the beholder.

 

[Mayra]

Silver lining we won’t have to see Sinitsina/Katsalapov Rachmaninov Irish Riverdance one more time (or those RD shirts). Twice this year has been traumatic enough.

I would have loved to see how they compared to the top 3 other teams right now. They were struggling at RC. It would have been oh so interesting to seem them skate before/ after P&C just to see how anyone in their right mind was going to continue giving them 9.75 -10's in PCS.

If they were smart, they'd show up to Nationals and get showered with outrageous pre-Olympic scores, then pull out of Euros. Avoid the comparison and maintain the illusion and clout of being World Champions going into the Olympics. JMO

 

[Braulio]

I would have loved to see how they compared to the top 3 other teams right now. They were struggling at RC. It would have been oh so interesting to seem them skate before/ after P&C just to see how anyone in their right mind was going to continue giving them 9.75 -10's in PCS.

If they were smart, they'd show up to Nationals and get showered with outrageous pre-Olympic scores, then pull out of Euros. Avoid the comparison and maintain the illusion and clout of being World Champions going into the Olympics. JMO

I think Vika/Niky will go to Europeans, they know and Zhulin know that they are not at the same league to what P/C showed at all in both RD & FD, so if they are smart/wise they could use Europeans as a reality check (barring crazy judging) get exposure, the competition feel and show one more time their programs BEFORE the Olympics.

I don't think right now it could work to their advantage if all of a sudden skip Europeans and lost momentum, presence before the judges and show their programs with the already needed tweaking/re-construction

 

[aka_gerbil]

I think S/K will go to Euros (as long as Euros happens). The real advantage for them right now is giving Nikita’s back some more time.

 

[mjb52]

Well they do seem to create conversation. I hesitate to reference an inspirational quote from an early 00's style website but: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/paul_pierce_861496

ANYWAY. So the GPF was cancelled huh? How about that!

eta: lol, I literally posted the above without having seen this part: "BrainyQuote has been providing inspirational quotes since 2001 to our worldwide community." Nailed it or what?

 

[caseyedwards]

I would have loved to see how they compared to the top 3 other teams right now. They were struggling at RC. It would have been oh so interesting to seem them skate before/ after P&C just to see how anyone in their right mind was going to continue giving them 9.75 -10's in PCS.

If they were smart, they'd show up to Nationals and get showered with outrageous pre-Olympic scores, then pull out of Euros. Avoid the comparison and maintain the illusion and clout of being World Champions going into the Olympics. JMO

You just can’t accept that s/k have become a great team. Just can’t accept it

Rank	Name	Nation	Total points	RD	FD
1​	Victoria Sinitsina / Nikita Katsalapov	FSR	221.17​	1​	88.15​	1​	133.02​
2​	Madison Hubbell / Zachary Donohue	United States	214.71​	2​	86.05​	3​	128.66​
3​	Piper Gilles / Paul Poirier	Canada	214.35​	4​	83.37​	2​	130.98​
4	Madison Chock / Evan Bates	United States	212.69​	3​	85.15​	4​	127.54​

Only p/c are their competitors

To act like 3 other teams can beat them is just being hateful