Prince Andrew

[aftershocks]

Prince Andrew 'offered to help Jeffrey Epstein prosecutors'

Prince Andrew's lawyers have clashed with US prosecutors over the duke's co-operation with the inquiry.

www.bbc.com

"Geoffrey Berman, US Attorney for the Southern District of New York, [responded:] the prince 'has not given an interview to federal authorities, has repeatedly declined our request to schedule such an interview, and nearly four months ago informed us unequivocally... that he would not come in for such an interview.'

He added: 'If Prince Andrew is, in fact, serious about co-operating with the ongoing federal investigation, our doors remain open, and we await word of when we should expect him.'

The duke's lawyers declined to comment further, but a source said: 'This is the third time Berman has breached his own confidentiality rules, further diminishing our trust in the DoJ's willingness to play a straight bat. It's frankly bewildering.'"

By 'playing a straight bat,' Andrew and his lawyers must mean, giving the duke special treatment, assuring nothing the duke admits during conversations will be held against him or revealed publicly. IOW, keeping the duke's involvement with Epstein undercover, under wraps, swept under the rug, and out of any civil or criminal court case.

 

[MacMadame]

So it's okay for Andrew's people to say he's offered to help and been ignored but it's not okay for the DOJ to say, "liar, liar pants on fire" because that's "breaching confidentiality." Sure...

 

[aftershocks]

Unless it's being discussed in a different thread, I'm surprised no one is talking about the fact that Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested by the FBI and will face charges. Hopefully, she won't die while awaiting trial, if her case gets that far.

There's a lot going on here. For those of you who haven't looked at the Netflix documentary about Epstein's crimes and the stories of his victims, you need to do so. My immediate questions after I saw the documentary was, 'Where's Ghislaine Maxwell hiding, and when will she be brought to justice?? She was arrested in a well-heeled area of New Hampshire, so she obviously has had rich, connected friends helping her hide out.

Some people online have been speculating that the recent goings on with Trump firing the former SDNY prosecutor had something to do with this case, in addition to Trump's own malfeasance that's under investigation. As well, reports that the Queen recently spoke on the phone to Trump are rather interesting. In the press conference earlier today, the prosecutors mentioned they were still hoping for Prince Andrew to offer himself for questioning.

'We would welcome Prince Andrew talking to us' say prosecutors after arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell

Ghislaine Maxwell, the British socialite and former girlfriend of Jeffrey Epstein, has been arrested by the FBI officers investigating the late disgraced fin...

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[Sylvia]

Unless it's being discussed in a different thread, I'm surprised no one is talking about the fact that Ghislaine Maxwell was arrested by the FBI and will face charges. Hopefully, she won't die while awaiting trial, if her case gets that far.

I posted the news in the Epstein thread in the PI forum earlier today: https://www.fsuniverse.net/forum/th...nd-legal-aftermath.105866/page-4#post-5828924

 

[aftershocks]

WTF!

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I believe this story originated in The Telegraph. Maxwell and Spacey were guests of none other than Prince Andrew during an overall visit to Buckingham Palace by President Bill Clinton (i.e., Spacey is said to have arrived with Bill Clinton's entourage and Maxwell had been separately invited by Prince Andrew).

Thinking of where these two sit today contrasted with their self-aggrandized images in the photo...

Obviously, Maxwell's recent arrest led to someone dropping this photo, likely for big bucks.

 

[Vagabond]

Off with their heads!

 

[aftershocks]

Hmmm, such BP 'throne room' shenanigans might seem humorous to some. but for the Queen's favorite son to enable and allow it further demonstrates Andrew's careless sense of entitlement and disregard for even the institution in which he was raised. Maxwell and Spacey had already shown themselves to be arrogant, selfish, narcissistic and cruel toward people they exerted power over. No one is literally going to 'lose their heads,' but beyond that, certain people's losses and karma have already piled up.


60 Minutes Australia's most recent report on the Epstein saga (includes reactions from Virginia Giuffre and other victims of Epstein and Maxwell, regarding Maxwell's arrest; in addition to discussion of Prince Andrew's friendship with Epstein and Maxwell):

Inside the wicked saga of Jeffrey Epstein: the arrest of Ghislaine Maxwell | 60 Minutes Australia

Subscribe here: http://9Soci.al/chmP50wA97J Full Episodes: https://9now.app.link/uNP4qBkmN6 | Right hand woman (2020)There was little Jeffrey Epstein wouldn’...

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[vgerdes]

Hmmm, such BP 'throne room' shenanigans might seem humorous to some. but for the Queen's favorite son to enable and allow it further demonstrates Andrew's careless sense of entitlement and disregard for even the institution in which he was raised. Maxwell and Spacey had already shown themselves to be arrogant, selfish, narcissistic and cruel toward people they exerted power over. No one is literally going to 'lose their heads,' but beyond that, certain people's losses and karma have already piled up.

Truth. None of the criminal charges against Spacey have stuck (thus far), but I doubt he'll ever enjoy the kind of stardom he has in the past. He may never work in a mainstream film or TV show again.

 

[attyfan]

More trouble:

New witness casts doubt on Prince Andrew’s Pizza Express alibi

A lawyer for the victims of sex offender Jeffrey Epstein has said that a woman has come forward claiming she saw the Duke of York alongside Virginia Giuffre Roberts at a London nightclub. Prince An…

royalcentral.co.uk

 

[overedge]

Did anyone ever seriously believe that Prince Andrew was really at the Pizza Express that night? Other than him and his lawyers and PR reps....

 

[fan]

Did anyone ever seriously believe that Prince Andrew was really at the Pizza Express that night? Other than him and his lawyers and PR reps....

His mum

 

[overedge]

His mum

True that. At least in public.

A royal prince dropping into a pizza parlour unannounced would be so unusual that you'd think by now at least one person who was there - if he was there - would have spoken up to say they saw him. Even before this latest eyewitness account of him actually being at the club.

 

[Vagabond]

Did anyone ever seriously believe that Prince Andrew was really at the Pizza Express that night? Other than him and his lawyers and PR reps....

Probably not his daughter.

 

[aftershocks]

I think the timeline is that the Pizza Express outing in Woking occurred sometime in the late afternoon to early evening. Activity at the London nightclub would have taken place much much later in the evening when such night owl venues open. Therefore, both events are possible to have occurred on the same day. IOW, based on timing, the alibi for the pizza outing never negated that Andrew could later have shown up at the nightclub with Virginia Giuffre, while his daughters were safely home at Royal Lodge sleeping (with minders, such as staffers or nannies available to look out for them in the absence of both their parents -- as Andrew said in the interview that Sarah was away on a trip during that time period).

 

[canbelto]

Ew Prince Andrew still receiving his birthday honors:

Prince Andrew Will Continue to Receive This Honor on His Birthday Despite Public Outcry

The bells at Westminster Abbey will continue to ring for Prince Andrew's birthday despite him stepping back from royal duties due to his scandals surrounding Jeffrey Epstein

people.com

 

[taf2002]

Ew Prince Andrew still receiving his birthday honors:

Prince Andrew Will Continue to Receive This Honor on His Birthday Despite Public Outcry

The bells at Westminster Abbey will continue to ring for Prince Andrew's birthday despite him stepping back from royal duties due to his scandals surrounding Jeffrey Epstein

people.com

This is unacceptable. Another case of ignoring it & it will go away.

 

[Tesla]

This is unacceptable. Another case of ignoring it & it will go away.

It's more like "Squirrel!" (i.e. look at Harry and Meghan. They are mean to the queen.)

 

[Vagabond]

Prince Andrew refuses to deny he stayed in Jeffrey Epstein mansion

Duke’s spokeswoman declines to comment on report contradicting his claim in Newsnight interview

www.theguardian.com

The refusal to repeat the denial comes after the Daily Mail uncovered a fax that said the prince had stayed at a “private address in New York” on 11 April and its sources confirmed this was Epstein’s £60m home in Manhattan’s Upper East Side.

This directly contradicts Prince Andrew’s account of his movements that day in his interview with the Newsnight presenter Emily Maitlis last year, when he said: “I wasn’t staying there. I may have visited but definitely didn’t, definitely, definitely no, no, no activity.”

He has the privilege not to incriminate himself, but dude needs to face the music.

 

[Vagabond]

I'm posting this here so that it doesn't bother people who would prefer that the generic Royalty thread be centered around more pleasant subjects like pearl hair clips.

Prince Andrew in the news again and not in a good way:

Virginia Giuffre files lawsuit against Prince Andrew alleging sexual abuse | CNN

Virginia Roberts Giuffre has filed a lawsuit against Prince Andrew for alleged sexual abuse, according to federal court documents filed Monday. Giuffre, an alleged victim of Jeffrey Epstein, has previously said publicly that she was forced to perform sex acts with Prince Andrew.

www.cnn.com

 

[canbelto]

Thanks @Vagabond I didn't find the Andrew thread. Anyway yeah, whenever he's in the news it's never good ...

 

[allezfred]

Every time I hear the name Ghislaine (Gee-Lane) I am perturbed. Gee is Irish slang for:

Spoiler

Vagina

 

[Tesla]

Every time I hear the name Ghislaine (Gee-Lane) I am perturbed. Gee is Irish slang for:

Spoiler

Vagina

Thank you! I had no idea how to pronounce her name. And that is one helluva slang.

 

[overedge]

If Ghislaine's lawyers are the "sources" alleging she's going to provide evidence to support him.....she needs better lawyers. Tying yourself to a toxic mess like Andrew is not a good thing.

 

[Vagabond]

Thank you! I had no idea how to pronounce her name. And that is one helluva slang.

More to the point, she has no idea how to pronounce her name.

How to Pronounce Ghislaine? (CORRECTLY)

Listen and learn how to say Ghislaine correctly (French personal name) with Julien, "how do you pronounce" free pronunciation audio/video tutorials.Video Con...

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[MacMadame]

More to the point, she has no idea how to pronounce her name.

How to Pronounce Ghislaine? (CORRECTLY)

Listen and learn how to say Ghislaine correctly (French personal name) with Julien, "how do you pronounce" free pronunciation audio/video tutorials.Video Con...

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His video on her name, in particular, has a different pronunciation:

How to Pronounce Ghislaine Maxwell? (CORRECTLY)

Listen and learn how to say Ghislaine Maxwell correctly (British socialite) with Julien, "how do you pronounce" free pronunciation audio/video tutorials.Vide...

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So I give up. I'll just call her Sex Trafficker Maxwell.

 

[allezfred]

So I give up. I'll just call her Sex Trafficker Maxwell.

Gee Lane innit.

 

[MacMadame]

Gee Lane innit.

Mostly, but not exactly. Which is why I am giving up. Well, that and I'd rather call her what she is.

 

[skategal]

I like to refer to her as Jizz-lane.

 

[Jot the Dot Dot]

Every time I hear the name Ghislaine (Gee-Lane) I am perturbed. Gee is Irish slang for:

Spoiler

Vagina

So if I mispronounce her name, would that be a slip of the tongue?

 

[taz'smum]

Every time I hear the name Ghislaine (Gee-Lane) I am perturbed. Gee is Irish slang for:

Spoiler

Vagina

I have the same problem here in France when I have to teach students called 'Fanny'.
Fanny is UK, Australia, NZ slang for

Spoiler

Pussy/vagina