Meoima
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How about Trusova/Hanyu winning Olympic pair gold in 2026 ?
Side by side quad and 5S throw
Side by side quad and 5S throw
The ISU has no choice. They must ban all eteri girls and eteri herself from coaching until the investigation into her starving girls is completeLet's discuss these quad wonder girls AFTER they aren't starved so they don't hit puberty.
He doesn't have the upper body strength, and I doubt she will develop it either.How about Trusova/Hanyu winning Olympic pair gold in 2026 ?
Side by side quad and 5S throw
The ISU has no choice. They must ban all eteri girls and eteri herself from coaching until the investigation into her starving girls is complete
What for her to throw him? I don't know, she's pretty buff. She might could manage if she folded him in half since he's probably twice her heightHe doesn't have the upper body strength, and I doubt she will develop it either.
What for her to throw him? I don't know, she's pretty buff. She might could manage if she folded him in half since he's probably twice her height
Let's discuss these quad wonder girls AFTER they aren't starved so they don't hit puberty.
She maybe can jump some quads but she has absolutely no program.
She maybe can jump some quads but she has absolutely no program.
She maybe can jump some quads but she has absolutely no program.
Trusova's overall skating does nothing for me. I find her mediocre to decent in a lot of areas of her skating...
However, I'm in awe of what she can do with her jumps. She's so tiny but she's also extremely powerful. The quads are huge and she's landing multiples and in combinations too. I think it sucks that better and more well-rounded skaters really don't have a chance next to her but it is what it is. As long as she's hitting 3 and 4 quads in the FS, it doesn't matter what anyone else does--she is going to win. I'd argue her PCS were about 3 points too high...but honestly, what does it matter? If you take those 3 points away she still wins by a mile.
For someone who enjoys skating for both sides (artistic and technical) it's really sad because when it comes down to it there isn't anyone who can beat Trusova if she's putting out that kind of content. And if she's winning by landslides I don't see her team taking the time or energy to focus on making her a better or more aesthetically pleasing skater...she'll be able to win everything just based on her jumps alone.
It's just where we are with women's skating right now. It's the reason I've been watching the men, pairs and ice dance this season...
Well it’s interesting. In men’s, multiple quads didn’t crush the competition for a long time: Tim Goeble, Plushenko, Max Aaron, Boyang Jin. It wasn’t until someone like Patrick Chan came along who could do both multiple quads and had amazing artistry that it was an overwhelming advantage. But with the ladies, the judges seem willing to just let the tech side totally take over immediately.
Quads were the dominating force for the Men in the 6.0 system. I think by the time the IJS came, they weren't a huge novelty anymore and I think by then, the ISU and the judges wanted to see more than the quads. Buttle and Lysacek won their respective World Titles (and Olympic Gold Medal) a clean, quad less program. I think the ISU is happy to see the women evolve technically. Patrick came along and gave the judges the whole package. We will have to see what happens with the women.
It's a process. The sport evolves in spurts. First comes a technical leap forward and then the artistry catches up.Quads were the dominating force for the Men in the 6.0 system. I think by the time the IJS came, they weren't a huge novelty anymore and I think by then, the ISU and the judges wanted to see more than the quads. Buttle and Lysacek won their respective World Titles (and Olympic Gold Medal) a clean, quad less program. I think the ISU is happy to see the women evolve technically. Patrick came along and gave the judges the whole package. We will have to see what happens with the women.
It's a process. The sport evolves in spurts. First comes a technical leap forward and then the artistry catches up.
in 2012, Kostner won her world title with just 5 triples. In 2014 it took her 7 triples just to medal. Now most elite ladies are at least trying 3-3s, and the top ladies have multiple 3-3s and even harder jump elements.
One thing that could help restore balance, as I wrote earlier, is changing the PCS facor to 1.0/2.0.
A typical top ladies' TES in the SP is in the low 40s and in the FS in the mid 70s. The tippy-tops are in the mid to high 40s and 80s and above in the FS. Yet their PCS are capped at 40 for the SP and 80 for the FS. This does not allow for the points spread between the great technicians and the great artists.
One thing that could help restore balance, as I wrote earlier, is changing the PCS facor to 1.0/2.0.
A typical top ladies' TES in the SP is in the low 40s and in the FS in the mid 70s. The tippy-tops are in the mid to high 40s and 80s and above in the FS. Yet their PCS are capped at 40 for the SP and 80 for the FS. This does not allow for the points spread between the great technicians and the great artists.
That's not what happened. Chan started out with no quads at all (recall the Great Quad Controversy at 2009 Worlds), which didn't stop him from winning 2009 4CC and medalling at 2009 and 2010 Worlds - arguably more due to skating skills than amazing performance ability (admittedly the skating skills were a performance in and of themselves). He began incorporating a 4T (not multiple quads) into his LP only in 2010-2011, and indeed became more dominant after doing so.Well it’s interesting. In men’s, multiple quads didn’t crush the competition for a long time: Tim Goeble, Plushenko, Max Aaron, Boyang Jin. It wasn’t until someone like Patrick Chan came along who could do both multiple quads and had amazing artistry that it was an overwhelming advantage. But with the ladies, the judges seem willing to just let the tech side totally take over immediately.