BaileyCatts
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I'd love it if we could see actual raw data on the numbers.
But then what will the C list do?
WTF?!
Either Milo or Evanna winning would have made me happy.
Yep. But I can't even be happy for her. (I wanted her to win back when she had James Hinchcliffe).
This!
Haha I feel like I remember a long time ago they did one episode where they gave two marks (technical content/performance). I'd like that idea to come back.
They also for a bit gave half marks. Which meant Len gave a lot of 9.5. I feel like something along those lines could be useful too.
They either need to:
a) make the judges scores worth more than viewer votes
b) do ballroom audience voting (like with Juniors) and either just rely on that (since they don't do result shows anymore), or combine that with viewer votes
c) open it back up to allowing Canadians to vote online
d) allow rankings (like you rank your picks. Top pick gets 5 points, second pick 3 points, third pick 1 point or something like that)
e) make sure to have a 2 night finale, so that everyone can see everyone's dances and have time to vote
f) some combination of the above
g) just cancel the show
Haha I feel like I remember a long time ago they did one episode where they gave two marks (technical content/performance). I'd like that idea to come back.
They also for a bit gave half marks. Which meant Len gave a lot of 9.5. I feel like something along those lines could be useful too.
They either need to:
a) make the judges scores worth more than viewer votes
b) do ballroom audience voting (like with Juniors) and either just rely on that (since they don't do result shows anymore), or combine that with viewer votes
c) open it back up to allowing Canadians to vote online
d) allow rankings (like you rank your picks. Top pick gets 5 points, second pick 3 points, third pick 1 point or something like that)
e) make sure to have a 2 night finale, so that everyone can see everyone's dances and have time to vote
f) some combination of the above
g) just cancel the show
IIRC, on Juniors the stars are only allowed to bring a certain number of people to the audience to help kind of curb that (it's not a perfect system)Disagree with b) if one team has lots of supporters in the audience they would automatically get more votes, c) it's an American show, I watch X Factor UK but I don't get to vote, where would you draw the line, would Mexico get to vote?, & g) why cancel, if you don't like it don't watch.
Often judges score poor contestants higher so that people don't vote. Like 'Oh, X got a perfect score. They're probably safe.' It's the same reason they no longer announce the 'jeopardy' couples as 'the bottom two'. This way it's a form of manipulation. For all we know, Joe was in the bottom two each week, but if people saw his name there, it would push them to vote for him. Making them think he's safe means less people would vote. Same reason they can put someone 'in jeopardy' even if they're at the top of the heap - they can manipulate people to vote for them.The judges just need to mark the contestants accurately. If each judge gave Bobby the 1 or 2 out of 10 that he deserved each week, he would storm off at some point and quit. Either that, or he'd break down and weep realizing how horrid a dancer he truly is and have to seek out such copious amounts of medication, that he'd be a zombie on the dancefloor and new paddles would have to be made in red numbering with a negative sign in front of his mark of one or two.
I believe that this had much to do with Bobby's win.He had the absolute benefit of being able to be in peoples minds constantly because of his show, so he got a LOT more promotion than anyone else, And even people who don't watch the show would likely vote for the guy they listen to every day over people they've never heard of.
Results like this make me wonder if the judges should have more control over the voting, but if they did, I'd say that the results were manipulated by the producers for storyline or other reasons that had nothing to do with the actual dancing.
Actually, I think lots of people use multiple email addresses. I have my personal email, my email I use for websites/contests and such, work email...Maybe the fairest way would be to count online votes only. Most people don't have multiple email addresses or FB accts & those who do are probably a drop in the bucket. That plus judge's scores would probably be pretty accurate as to what most of the viewers want.
Also, most of Bobby's listeners are located in the Eastern and Central Time Zones, where his show is broadcast from Nashville, and where the DWTS finale aired live. This could have helped in putting him at an advantage over someone like Milo who is LA/Disney based.I also wondered if the result would have been different if it was a two-night finale. Lots of people don't watch it live in Eastern or Central time. Those in the Mountain and Pacific time zones didn't even get to vote -- unless they did it without watching the show.
I honestly think the way this finale was done was extremely unfair to the contestants. Of any season, this is one where I think they should do a 'dance-off' like they did after the upset of Kelly Monaco winning in season 1.
The show no longer has the popularity to warrant a dance-off. That 1st season was heavily watched and relatively inexpensive to produce. Ratings were down this season. By today, most people have forgotten who won. Sadly, to some of us, the stain remains.
Sharna did an Instagram live today and she was apparently told that they were so far ahead from voting that their scores didn't matter. I checked Wikipedia because I couldn't remember if Bobby & Sharna had ever actually been in the bottom and they hadn't. So clearly fans were really coming out for them full force.I don't see it as a stain because I believe that Bobby would have won this year even if there had been a 2 day finale & if all 4 had danced without the 30 mins in between & if there were no tweets counted. I don't know how many of you vote by phone but Bobby had tons of people who were doing just that.
Sharna did an Instagram live today and she was apparently told that they were so far ahead from voting that their scores didn't matter.