"No one knows Mirai's mirai" Nagasu cheer thread

[bardtoob]

Coach provides argument for why protégé Nagasu should try triple axel

http://web.icenetwork.com/news/2017/09/22/255539012

Tom pretty much indicated that Team Mirai does not consider the 3A landed in competition until it is clean. Good for them!



Never settle for just good enough!

 

[DreamSkates]

Tom pretty much indicated that Team Mirai does not consider the 3A landed in competition until it is clean. Good for them!



Never settle for just good enough!

And she did recently - and early in the season to the tune of 8.5 points! But other jumps were scored as UR, so she has some work to do. Still early in the season and she has strong motivation to prove her worthiness to go to the Olympics. I am cheering and clapping for you, Mirai!

 

[bardtoob]

And she did recently - and early in the season to the tune of 8.5 points! But other jumps were scored as UR, so she has some work to do. Still early in the season and she has strong motivation to prove her worthiness to go to the Olympics. I am cheering and clapping for you, Mirai!

The Tom is Tom Zakrajsek, Mirai's coach, and the article is from 09/22/2017, so clearly Team Mirai wants better.

 

[DreamSkates]

The Tom is Tom Zakrajsek, Mirai's coach, and the article is from 09/22/2017, so clearly Team Mirai wants better.

Yes, I had already read the article and also saw her land the triple axle in the free skate at the International Classic.

 

[Spun Silver]

Tom pretty much indicated that Team Mirai does not consider the 3A landed in competition until it is clean. Good for them!



Never settle for just good enough!

Wow, what an attitude. I am impressed but also a little confused. I would have thought if it was good enough for the judges it was good enough for Team Mirai. He writes as though she didn't even do it.

 

[bardtoob]

Wow, what an attitude. I am impressed but also a little confused. I would have thought if it was good enough for the judges it was good enough for Team Mirai. He writes as though she didn't even do it.

I have gotten the impression that Tom and Mirai both have an old-fashioned attitude of about quality. I know Mirai has brought up the 6.0 system a number of times, particularly her attitude of about falling and saving jumps which might result in URs. To me, this shows a lot of integrity because she is not asking for it both ways because, yes, a saved one-footed jump was better than a fall under the 6.0 system, but, yes, also a "clean jump" had no landing defects.

Of course, now, under the IJS, ratification is about the angle of the blade on takeoff vs landing plus the rotations between, and quality is on some scale of gradation.

 

[SkateFanBerlin]

Look, if she gets over 8 with it, it's a win. Mao had lots of UR 3A's, dodgy landings and falls. No one denied she had the jump and they shouldn't question Mirai's efforts either. Let her have the success of int'l classic. Use the energy to clean it up further while addressing the other trouble areas. Getting perfectionistic about this one element can only drag her down.

 

[bardtoob]

Let her have the success of int'l classic. Use the energy to clean it up further while addressing the other trouble areas. Getting perfectionistic about this one element can only drag her down.

This is also a pretty valid way of looking at it.

Maybe they have a lower standard in private, but hold themselves to a high standard in public . . . like those Soviet gymnasts of the past than always graciously accepted their wins but also were disgusted with themselves during podium trainings when they made errors.

 

[Spun Silver]

Most likely IMO, they want to get it cleaner because not all tech panels are in the USA and they might get that scary Japanese lady for a caller. (Sorry, I forgot her name.) Oh got it: Shin Amano!

 

[DimaToe]

Most likely IMO, they want to get it cleaner because not all tech panels are in the USA and they might get that scary Japanese lady for a caller. (Sorry, I forgot her name.) Oh got it: Shin Amano!

Shin Amano is a man

 

[Spun Silver]

Shin Amano is a man

Sorry!!

 

[Sasha'sSpins]

4T ... Let's not try now. Maybe next June.

A possible 4T in Mirai's future gives me hope that she won't retire just yet after the Olympic season.

 

[bardtoob]

A possible 4T in Mirai's future gives me hope that she won't retire just yet after the Olympic season.

There is no reason to, particularly since "professional" skating is now "Olympic-eligible skating" and she has the technical ability to compete. There are still GPF, World, and Olympics medals to win.

 

[GullyGirl84]

Tom is being Tom. Mirai was recently asked about this over the summer I think, and she laughed it off and said that she didn't think her body could handle training a quad. I think Tom's article acknowledges that Mirai's axel was ratified (rotated), but that it won't really be real until it's rotated AND landed with no two foot/with positive goe. The call on the axel was accurate last weekend. Mirai and Tom know that she is capable of much better ones and is capable of landing it smoothly

 

[Bellanca]

There is always room for improvement. Never settle for good, go for great. The Tom and Mirai philosophy. They are right to strive for excellence!

 

[GullyGirl84]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUR_h-rDYJI&feature=youtu.be

Above is the youtube link to yesterday's media summit press conference with some of the Team USA figure skaters, including Mirai. She spoke a few times about her triple axel. Some highlights:

**A journalist asks Mirai about how she was able to make her breakthrough with her jump, since there are youtube clips of her working on the jump going back to 2007. Mirai said that she has worked on the jump since she was 13, but that she was not able to work on it consistently until this point due to being injured at various points in her career, etc.

**She said that her triple axel is a consistent jump for her in practice, and opened up the possibility of doing two triple axels in her free skate if she is able to continue to make progress with the jump (replacing the triple triple, which she said is not her "favorite" jump). The thing that jumped out at me about this one was that she said before this summer that she graded the triple axel as a C, because it wasn't consistent yet. So it sounds like she really did have a breakthrough in terms of landing it more consistently in practice rather than just now and again (this in the midst of touring for two weeks in Japan, mind you ). She also was one of the skaters (along with Jason, and Chock and Bates), who performed "demos" for the media, with Mirai performing her sp. Though I don't know if there are any reports on how that went, or any footage.

Only time will tell if the hype will psych her out, but I love hearing Mirai sound so confident about the jump. Tom, please do your best to keep her injury free this season. I also think that Mirai consistently rotates her jumps in practice and that it's more of a nerves than a technique thing at this point, so sending all of the good vibes her way.

 

[Sasha'sSpins]

I've only seen media summit demos of the ski jumpers, ice hockey players and a very brief teaser of Jason on the ice in Team USA's Instagram. Hopefully Mirai's demo will pop up soon.

From Mirai's IG - Ice Queen! https://www.instagram.com/p/BZghZx0nuPP/?taken-by=mirainagasu

 

[Jarrett]

Mirai posted a series of jump on her Instagram story today. The out of the ordinary jump was a tano triple lutz. Oh and you know three triple axels... old news. Go Mirai!!

 

[Sasha'sSpins]

Mirai posted a series of jump on her Instagram story today. The out of the ordinary jump was a tano triple lutz. Oh and you know three triple axels... old news. Go Mirai!!

Been re-watching those all day! I love that random 'Tano triple Lutz! I've been wondering if Mirai might attempt an arm overhead jump or two since they're in vogue now. Looks like she might try! And the triple Axel is looking better and better with each attempt! Was that Max when she tried the first (shaky) one? He's a hoot!

 

[Jarrett]

Been re-watching those all day! I love that random 'Tano triple Lutz! I've been wondering if Mirai might attempt an arm overhead jump or two since they're in vogue now. Looks like she might try! And the triple Axel is looking better and better with each attempt! Was that Max when she tried the first (shaky) one? He's a hoot!

I couldnt tell who that was clowning around while she jumped but she didn't even react, so focused. Maybe it was a drill to focus.

 

[bardtoob]

Where is this video with the Tano Lutz!?! ... Link

 

[Jarrett]

Where is this video with the Tano Lutz!?! ... Link

It is on an Instagram Story which you cannot link to. You have to follow the person and they disappear after like a day. I don't know if this will work but here is a gif I made from my phone. https://photos.app.goo.gl/2baTf31SiNX53LYf1

 

[bardtoob]

It is on an Instagram Story which you cannot link to. You have to follow the person and they disappear after like a day. I don't know if this will work but here is a gif I made from my phone. https://photos.app.goo.gl/2baTf31SiNX53LYf1

Wow! That looks better than her typical 3Lz!

 

[Sasha'sSpins]

Wow! That looks better than her typical 3Lz!

I agree! Looked like a beaut to me anyways.

A kind user on GF, Krunchii, told me about Chrome's download app for IG's stories so I was able to dl the vids.

eta: uploaded them to Daily Motion.

3R http://dai.ly/k5oLOsFiKoPpDooQEOH

3F http://dai.ly/x62m07p

Tano 3L http://dai.ly/keWGvlFXrxObsDoQFgQ

3S http://dai.ly/k1gPZNcd6aNyNToQIf6

3F-3T http://dai.ly/k2RLR9jOG5wal3oQIu2

1st 3A http://dai.ly/k7hyU2toMFSck7oQIWk

2nd 3A http://dai.ly/x62me0p

3rd and BEST 3A! http://dai.ly/x62meo0

 

[bardtoob]

Tano 3L http://dai.ly/keWGvlFXrxObsDoQFgQ

Love it! A big Lutz with the Tano ... and notice how deep her edge is upon take off.

 

[olympic]

I think it has been stated that Mirai would consider a 3A-2T over a 3F-3T. Does anyone know the BV for each?

 

[Frida80]

I think it has been stated that Mirai would consider a 3A-2T over a 3F-3T. Does anyone know the BV for each?

9.8 vs 9.6.

 

[DDNatalia]

9.8 vs 9.6.

That's surprisingly (ok, maybe 'disappointingly') similar.

 

[Coco]

Having just watched Nebelhorn, it does not take much to put a double toe on the end of anything.

But if she did do a triple Axel in combination could she repeat the triple axle for her axle jump?

 

[olympic]

Having just watched Nebelhorn, it does not take much to put a double toe on the end of anything.

But if she did do a triple Axel in combination could she repeat the triple axle for her axle jump?

Of course. I believe a 3A follows the same rules as any other triple / quad jump: It can be repeated as long as one is a combo. Mao did that in Vancouver 2010.