Yuzuru Hanyu Cheer Thread

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this was a battle from start to finish and after his quad miss you could see him just gather himself and fight. So proud of that. Just like Orser said when he came off the ice, he fought but just needed a couple more weeks. It was an awful year for him, but he fought through it with no complaints.
 

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What an amazing fighter he is. I look forward to healthy Hanyu back at his best next season. He will need to be with Fernandez as world champion now and Chan probably coming back.
At least I am glad that they don't award Yuzuru with highest PCS as some people will scream that he is the second Patrick. I still think Yuzuru should have highest PCS. But that doesn't matter. He deserves that silver. This season has been so terrible for him yet it finally ends. I hope he will have fun at World team trophy.
 

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I know Javi has Miki already but this is just sooooo sweet (and romantic): http://ww2.sinaimg.cn/bmiddle/4afe2a6bjw1eqltggslmnj20dc0hsmyw.jpg
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:)

That reminds me that just this week "El Economista" - a Spanish newspaper - had a nice article about Javier Fernández with the headine "Javier Fernández: Hanyu and I are everything, is like having a wife". The real quote makes more sense:

"Yuzu´ and I are everything, we are friends, we are partners, and in some moment we have to be rivals. It´s like to have a wife. Your wife is your friend, your wife is everything, but it depends on the moment. When we are on the ice we compete against each other, but when the competition finishes, we are friends again and we work together again."

It´s a quite interesting article, he speaks also of training under Brian Orser, and that he doesn´t play favourites, but is very neutral wanting all of them to win medals, and how much training with Hanyu has helped to his skating and to be more competitive.

About training with Hanyu: "It gave me the chance of watching how hard an Olympic Champion must work, how talented has to be, the effort you have to put every day. These things help you to find the right path and put yourself in the same position. It helped me to find how to win gold medals in the greatest competitions” and “This changes how you confront your training. Those days I don´t feel in the highest level, or I am tired, I think about Yuzu, and that he was tired (too) but could make great trainings that helped him to skate better and better. Training with someone at the same level motivates you day after day. I like it

The link of the article http://www.eleconomista.es/empresas...s-como-tener-una-esposa.html#Kku8fmITJCTHL57K
 
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Despite the hands down on his quad in the SP, I really enjoyed the performance. Chopin's Ballade No. 1 in G minor is one of my most favorite pieces of music and it's not easy to skate to it. Yuzuru did an awesome job interpreting this difficult piece of music. Bravo!
 

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Maybe he will compete at World Team Trophy and finally has a clean Chopin. I don't give up my hope for this program yet.
 
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Despite the hands down on his quad in the SP, I really enjoyed the performance. Chopin's Ballade No. 1 in G minor is one of my most favorite pieces of music and it's not easy to skate to it. Yuzuru did an awesome job interpreting this difficult piece of music. Bravo!
It appears to me his surgery is worse than we have thought. At this point I don't wish to see him at WTT honestly. Even though I really want to see him there for a clean Chopin.
Here is a summary of an article my friend has just told me:
After surgery, it hurt too much that he can't even move his body, and some of wounds hasn't taken the stitches down, and still need to apply medical on it, about sprained ankle, he has bandage on it, and he starts training in the start of March, 1-2 hour a day, 3 days a week.
What kind of preparation is this? And he still has stiches on his body??? Honestly I don't understand how they allow him to skate at WC at all.
 

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Translation from Golden Skate fan thread:
kriwyr1009;1136412 said:
1(-4) from nikkan sport.
He had an emergency operation the end of last year.He feared to take away his bellybutton.
He thout of horizontally linearly cut(lapalotomy),he couldn't stop feeling anxious.He begged "Please make a bellybutton"
Fortunetaly it need not doing, a side cut 4cm semicircular,but he groaned with pain of removing urrachus.After surgery he stayed hospotal at Tokyo.
He expressed "It hurts" because of couldn't toss about in bed. 12/31(The bell is ringing out the Old Year), 1/12(Coming of Age Day;know very important for Japanese), he still remained on the bed. He couldn't even take a commemorative photo. Ope scar remains suture anchor.
Janiary, he sprained his ankle, it was severe though he couldn't walk, and he needs a taping until now.
Owing to injurey, the practice was limited one or two hours per day three times a week before competition.
He couldn't lay stress on his abdomen which is key of jump. No wonder he couldn't jump like the original height and speed of revolution.
But he holded out.

No wonder he leaned towards when he landed the jumps, his abdomen is still in pain it seems.

And darn it, he is practicing quad in the gala!! They said he hit 4/5. Oh my god Yuzuru be careful of your ankle!!
 

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Sounds kind of sensationalist and tabloid-y. I mean, where would they even get this information? It doesn't sound like an interview, Yuzuru himself said he was fine, so it's not from him, and doctors aren't supposed to give out patient information.

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No wonder he leaned towards when he landed the jumps, his abdomen is still in pain it seems.

And darn it, he is practicing quad in the gala!! They said he hit 4/5. Oh my god Yuzuru be careful of your ankle!!
 

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I worry about Yuzuru. He is so talented, and so tough mentally that he pushes himself too hard at times. I am afraid that he may do himself too much physical harm and end his career prematurely. I want him to have a long career and a healthy life.
 

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Sounds kind of sensationalist and tabloid-y. I mean, where would they even get this information? It doesn't sound like an interview, Yuzuru himself said he was fine, so it's not from him, and doctors aren't supposed to give out patient information.
It's Nikkan Sport, not some tabloid. Yuzuru himself admitted that the scar after surgery was 4cm. A Chinese volunteer said on weibo that they accidentally saw his scar when he changed costume as well.
Personally I think he has healed quite a lot. Or else for sure the doctor wouldn't let him near the ice rink. But with just about 1 hour practice per day in two or three weeks it's not enough for him to gain back his top form after so much medication.
 

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It's Nikkan Sport, not some tabloid. Yuzuru himself admitted that the scar after surgery was 4cm. A Chinese volunteer said on weibo that they accidentally saw his scar when he changed costume as well.
Personally I think he has healed quite a lot. Or else for sure the doctor wouldn't let him near the ice rink. But with just about 1 hour practice per day in two or three weeks it's not enough for him to gain back his top form after so much medication.

Yes, I know Nikkan Sport isn't a tabloid, but Japanese media is tabloid-y and horrible in general.
 

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Yes, I know Nikkan Sport isn't a tabloid, but Japanese media is tabloid-y and horrible in general.
That I agree. Generally they seems to disappointed that he couldn't get the second gold. This is from a Japanese poster in Golden skate:

firal;1136470 said:
Most of the headlines are that he was unable to repeat his title. They do mention about his hardship if you do read the article, but the headlines are such.
I have the feeling Yuzuru is being treated as Yuna now, they expect nothing but gold, anything less than gold will be considered dissapointment. And that adds more pressure to him.
 

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With Hanyu doing so great dealing with all he did this year, if he stays healthy and avoids such bad luck again he is pretty much unbeatable the next 3 years.
 

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With Hanyu doing so great dealing with all he did this year, if he stays healthy and avoids such bad luck again he is pretty much unbeatable the next 3 years.
Ha ha I highly doubt that, Yuzuru is not given any guaranteed win at all, especially when he rarely skates cleanly this season. It's so sad to see him end his season without a clean skate either in SP or LP. I feel frustrated for him not because of the medals but because he could have done much better than that. After National I thought the misfortune might finally be over, yet the surgery came, then the ankle injury that made him stay off ice for another month... He has such rotten luck this season. Like a curse. The OGM curse.

I can see the judges didn't award him with highest PCS of the night. After CoC, Yuzuru has not been held up in PCS like Patrick. The judges seem to make it clear he has to be quite clean to win a title (or other did much worse than him). I'm glad it's this way but at the same time I resent them a bit because either in his skating skill, posture or interpretation, he has improved a lot but there haven't been recognition IMO. I guess all the injuries and sickness this season prevented him from having at least some decently clean program, thus his scores dropped. I don't know if he will be healthy next season. Hopefully he will.

Anways, seriously he should have done some skincare products, because his skin is just to die for: http://m.imgur.com/Dx0ggSn
 
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A healthy Hanyu is still more consistent than Fernandez or Ten (or Chan if he returns), and his scoring potential is higher (probably higher than an old Chan would be). I still think his chances are good going forward. Yes he is no protected and pampered by juges ensured winner like Chan of 2011-2013 though. He has to earn all he gets, unlike Chan.
 

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He is so wise for his age when he replied this question: “This season, you think it is a success or a failure?”
Failure or not depends on perspective of people. Failure is not the opposite of success, but a part of it. If you do not fail, you might not notice a lot of things. To skate a program, even one thing won’t be wasted.
http://hanyyuzu.tumblr.com/post/114945916892/failure-or-not-depends-on-perspective-of-people

Good boy, I hope Skating God shows some mercy to him, please let him be healthy.
 

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- When asked, “Why don’t you rest. Why did you compete even when you are in such a state.”, Yuzu was stunned for a moment.

“Because I am a skater who is still currently active in the field. There is no other reason. There is no strange feeling about it, as a representative of Japan, there is a sense of duty that I have to skate and compete. With regards to my injury and accident here (COC is held in the same country and venue as Worlds 2015), it is due to my own carelessness, and insufficient self-management. I believe I need to reflect deeply on it, and even though others might say it is bad luck, I believe it is still due to my insufficient self-management.“

From http://poohzuru.tumblr.com/post/114913514446


And here the FS conference: http://zzh-yh.tumblr.com/post/114982980822/worlds-2015-fs-press-conference-yuzuru-hanyu
 

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I have the feeling Yuzuru is being treated as Yuna now, they expect nothing but gold, anything less than gold will be considered dissapointment. And that adds more pressure to him.
I strongly disagree with this (bolded mine). I read both Japanese and Korean articles on daily base. Yu-Na is the GOAT in the history and no skater on her level will come for a hundred years ahead (well, her fans say 1K years LOL) on the media in her home country. Hanyu is not treated as such one on the media in his country. As far as I know, most of the Japanese media still stay supportive for him, such as reporting his conditions in detail, praising for winning silver medal despite the surgery/sprain etc. The only one I can say having rather critical tone is an article written by Makoto Okazaki of ISU technical specialist so far. But I can also say even this article by Okazaki is basically the analysis of the protocols, i.e.Okazaki says Hanyu stayed away from Orser because of the physical condition and the lack of proper training under his main coach caused losing 3 points in PCS which he says is the basic evaluation of the skater from judges.
 

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I strongly disagree with this (bolded mine). I read both Japanese and Korean articles on daily base. Yu-Na is the GOAT in the history and no skater on her level will come for a hundred years ahead (well, her fans say 1K years LOL) on the media in her home country. Hanyu is not treated as such one on the media in his country. As far as I know, most of the Japanese media still stay supportive for him, such as reporting his conditions in detail, praising for winning silver medal despite the surgery/sprain etc. The only one I can say having rather critical tone is an article written by Makoto Okazaki of ISU technical specialist so far. But I can also say even this article by Okazaki is basically the analysis of the protocols, i.e.Okazaki says Hanyu stayed away from Orser because of the physical condition and the lack of proper training under his main coach caused losing 3 points in PCS which he says is the basic evaluation of the skater from judges.
Thank you for the comment. I didn't mean it in the way "Japanese media" expect him to win gold all the time, I mean it in the sense "the skating world" overall. I mean before this competition it was clear that he's the favorite along with Javi and Denis. And as he had turned the table quite well at GPF people expect the same here. But he's just human, injuries and 3 months away from his coach did harm him a lot especially his air position and landing. He was not as well-trained as at GPF and Nationals for sure. Just saying as he is the one to beat now, fans and skaters overall will expect gold from him most of the time, and that is a huge pressure. I hope he will overcome the disappointment at WC (even though for sure many skaters would kill just to have his silver) and skate cleanly at WTT if he participates.
 

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Nice fancam of Yuzuru's SP at Shanghai, his ice coverage and speed have increased a lot: https://youtu.be/JWbU1O-UAk0
FS fancam: https://youtu.be/oSzwrcz3TTo

Overall I think his landing posture was a bit off, he leaned towards a lot. Not sure because of his poor health or because he was coachless for so long. I assume he lacks the core strength for these jumps after the surgery in abdominal area. But overall great fight. I hope he will spend more time with Orser to fix this, or to rest back in form.
 

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